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Girl Banned from School for Supporting Friend with Cancer

ChaosEngine says...

Because it's snake oil, and people die from it. The reason I asked @Sniper007 what he would suggest as an alternative is because there are some interesting alternatives currently being researched, but diet has already been shown to be ineffective. It pretty much killed Steve Jobs, for a start.

Yes, absolutely, you should eat healthily as a general life rule (although raw vegan is nonsense). There's some good evidence to show that diet can lessen your chance of developing cancer, but as a treatment? Nope.

Cannabis, on the other hand, may potentially have some benefit but as of today, there's no evidence to support that (and Cancer Research UK have labelled internet claims of such "highly misleading"). It's further complicated by the fact that smoking cannabis is often combined with tobacco smoking.

Finally, yeah, chemo is awful, but right now it's still the best treatment.

enoch said:

why does everybody get their panties in a bunch when someone offers an alternative to dealing with cancers?

Girl Banned from School for Supporting Friend with Cancer

enoch says...

why does everybody get their panties in a bunch when someone offers an alternative to dealing with cancers?

cancer treatment is NOT a black and white issue.
a change in diet as @Sniper007 suggested has been proven more and more to not only combat certain cancers but eliminate them altogether.

of course this course of treatment is a multi pronged attack and really only works in early diagnosis stages.
cannabinoid research over the past decade shows serious promise in reducing risks of cancer and reduction in overall cancer cell production in the body.

since many people here in the states do not have comprehensive,preventative health insurance the cancer is discovered far too late for some of what @Sniper007 is suggesting.

so chemotherapy is a last option.
and for those who do not understand why some here are calling chemotherapy "barbaric",let me clarify:

it is a controlled poisoning.
aaaaaaaand they are OFF!
who will die first?
is it the tumor or the body?

early diagnosis is the key but even in the latter stages cannabis can help eleviate pain and discomfort,as @Shepppard pointed out.

Girl Banned from School for Supporting Friend with Cancer

Shepppard says...

As of right now, if you use Cannabis to treat cancer, statistically speaking, you're just gonna die with the munchies.

It has an insanely low research rate in a cancer-fighting capacity, and is mostly used during cancer-treatment (specifically chemo) to induce hunger, and reduce pain.

Not to mention that if you're saying that fighting cancer with "happy thoughts and no stress" you're now just gonna die happy..about everything other than the fact that you decided not to actually cure your cancer.

Your logic is insane, and Chemo, although "Barbaric" is still, at the very least proven, and actually factually life-saving.

Sniper007 said:

Cannabis is the closest thing I've seen to a silver bullet "cure" type thingy. But pretty much every edible plant (sans chemical agents) is going to combat cancer in one way or another. Going full raw vegan is a good start. Your body's alkalinity will also need to stay above 7.0. This will happen by itself with a good diet. Then there's your thought life, your stress levels, and on and on.

Girl Banned from School for Supporting Friend with Cancer

Sniper007 says...

Cannabis is the closest thing I've seen to a silver bullet "cure" type thingy. But pretty much every edible plant (sans chemical agents) is going to combat cancer in one way or another. Going full raw vegan is a good start. Your body's alkalinity will also need to stay above 7.0. This will happen by itself with a good diet. Then there's your thought life, your stress levels, and on and on.

ChaosEngine said:

Chemotherapy is indeed horrific, but I'm curious as to what you would promote instead of it?

Also, this is a complete non-story. School has stupid rule, school overturns rule when stupidity is pointed out. The commentary after that is pointless.

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swedishfriend says...

How about talking up the positives of cannabis compared to most foods we eat daily? Spending money on vitamins is not looked down upon like spending money on cannabis yet cannabis has more positive effects than any vitamin.

Sniper007 (Member Profile)

poolcleaner says...

Think bigger: Cannabis could cure our constant state of war and aggression.

Worst thing that ever happened to me was alcohol abuse; best thing was my discovery of cannabis. It's helped me become a caring human being and resolves my anger issues.

The fact that it's use is a mostly illegal is infuriating. They want us fighting drunk, not peacefully high.

Sniper007 said:

Cancer isn't a virtue. Screw oncologists. Cannabis cures most cancers.

There, I said it.

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Dr Sanjay Gupta's CNN Special "WEED"

vaire2ube says...

CBD possesses sedative properties (Carlini and Cunha, 1981), and a clinical
trial showed that it reduces the anxiety and other unpleasant psychological
side effects provoked by pure THC (Zuardi et al. 1982). CBD modulates the
pharmacokinetics of THC by three mechanisms: (1) it has a slight affinity for
cannabinoid receptors (Ki at CB1 = 4350 nM, compared to THC = 41 nM,
Showalter et al. 1996), and it signals receptors as an antagonist or reverse agonist
(Petitet et al. 1998), (2) CBD may modulate signal transduction by perturbing
the fluidity of neuronal membranes, or by remodeling G-proteins that
carry intracellular signals downstream from cannabinoid receptors, and (3)CBD
is a potent inhibitor of cytochrome P450 3A11 metabolism, thus it blocks the
hydroxylation of THC to its 11-hydroxy metabolite (Bornheim et al. 1995).
The 11-hydroxy metabolite is four times more psychoactive than unmetabolized
THC (Browne and Weissman 1981), and four times more immunosuppressive
(Klein et al. 1987).
CBD provides antipsychotic benefits (Zuardi et al. 1995). It increases dopamine
activity, serves as a serotonin uptake inhibitor, and enhances norepinephrine
activity (Banerjee et al. 1975; Poddar and Dewey 1980). CBD protects
neurons from glutamate toxicity and serves as an antioxidant, more potently
than ascorbate and α-tocopherol (Hampson et al. 1998). Auspiciously, CBD
does not decrease acetylcholine (ACh) activity in the brain (Domino 1976;
Cheney et al. 1981). THC, in contrast, reduces hippocampal ACh release in
rats (Carta et al. 1998), and this correlates with loss of short-term memory consolidation.
In the hippocampus THC also inhibits N-methyl-D-aspartate (NMDA)
receptor activity (Misner and Sullivan 1999; Shen and Thayer 1999), and
NMDA synaptic transmission is crucial for memory consolidation (Shimizu et
al. 2000). CBD, unlike THC, does not dampen the firing of hippocampal cells
(Heyser et al. 1993) and does not disrupt learning (Brodkin and Moerschbaecher
1997).
Consroe (1998) presented an excellent review of CBD in neurological disorders.
In some studies, it ameliorates symptoms of Huntington’s disease, such
as dystonia and dyskinesia. CBD mitigates other dystonic conditions, such as
torticollis, in rat studies and uncontrolled human studies. CBD functions as an
anticonvulsant in rats, on a par with phenytoin (Dilantin, a standard antiepileptic
drug).
CBD demonstrated a synergistic benefit in the reduction of intestinal motility
in mice produced by THC (Anderson, Jackson, and Chesher 1974). This
may be an important component of observed benefits of cannabis in inflammatory
bowel diseases.

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John M. McPartland
Ethan B. Russo"

TED: Margaret Heffernan: The dangers of "willful blindness"

L0cky says...

I'd down vote too if I could. Not because of anything to do with cannabis, but because you are distorting the meaning of the concept that's being described in the video.

As the video explains, willful blindness is when people who know the same truth choose to ignore it. Not because they disagree with it, but because acting like it's not true is more beneficial than acting upon it being true.

It does not apply to people who rely on different information; and it does not apply to everyone who simply disagrees with you.

Rewatch the video, especially the part where she gives examples; and discusses her findings on people working at corporations who don't speak up about things they know.

vaire2ube said:

same phenom with Cannabis... its just taking time and the internet now.

i mean, i can type it out: anticancer, neuroprotectants, alt. nontoxic pain relief, antiinflammatory... plant fibers themselves used for many products, cheaply and quickly grown unlike wood... hemp seeds contain all essential amino acids.

quite literally manna from creation. ignorance alone is enough to deny our birthrights!~ /soapbox

good post

TED: Margaret Heffernan: The dangers of "willful blindness"

oOPonyOo says...

I have a friend who is a psychiatric nurse who was taught on the first day on the job that she would see certain local illnesses that she wouldn't see from people who come from the neighboring province of BC as Cannabis is more a part of the lifestyle there.

vaire2ube said:

same phenom with Cannabis... its just taking time and the internet now.

i mean, i can type it out: anticancer, neuroprotectants, alt. nontoxic pain relief, antiinflammatory... plant fibers themselves used for many products, cheaply and quickly grown unlike wood... hemp seeds contain all essential amino acids.

quite literally manna from creation. ignorance alone is enough to deny our birthrights!~ /soapbox

good post

schlub (Member Profile)

Dr Sanjay Gupta's CNN Special "WEED"

vaire2ube says...

naw, unlike most "drugs" that ruin lives as a property of their chemical interactions, cannabis is completely safe.

the only thing that will cause harm is exacerbating an existing medical condition that is prone to the hypertension, or actions taken while in an "unsafe" setting like toking up the first time while driving.

hardly a reason to worry about it, most therepeutically safe substance known to mankind, as well as the fact that even if medical use isnt the reason, recreational use with properly informed persons will result in no harm and possible benefit.

even if people started using it at the volume and frequency of alcohol, their lives would actually be made better because of the effects of the plant.

infuriating but the truth is finally coming out. the US has a patent on CBD since 2003 through the dept of health and human services for its antiinflammatory effects. .. and no one even knows about CBD, even really educated people who have the internet. its fucked up. See the TED sift about willful ignorance.

when it becomes easier to be informed then not, we will see a change. thats fucked up, but whatever im not like that. ill keep trying.



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