I liked this video. Normally, i'm not a big fan of brian cox. He's on british tv a lot and many people find his manner annoying, myself included - putting heavy expression into every single word in order to make up for his lack of ability to instill his own awe onto you.

But here, it seemed like he was off guard and just talking, and it transformed him. I wish he'd do that more.

>> ^bareboards2:

I agree that it is terrible that this is happening to men now. I don't think that is progress, I think it is a disease that is spreading.
The point you are missing, though, is that these are the VAST MAJORITY of the images that women see. Pay attention to the next movie or TV show you watch. How many "normal" guys are cast in parts? How many "normal" women?
While you are watching, switch the genders in your mind and imagine a woman who is of the same attractiveness level as the men. I think it will shock you when you realize that you see normal looking men ALL THE TIME and rarely do you see normal looking women.
What percentage of all posters/images are JUST male body parts? What percentage of men in the media fit this impossibly high standard?
You can count on one hand the number of "normal" looking women on TV.
It is so pervasive you guys who think we are whining don't even see it.
Compare that to British TV. Men and women both are routinely ... normal. They are chubby, plain looking, balding if they are male. It is a relief to watch British TV.
And I didn't tell you to shut up, @<a rel="nofollow" href="http://videosift.com/member/ala_bala" title="member since February 9th, 2007" class="profilelink">ala_bala. I said think for ten minutes and then speak. Which clearly you didn't do.

>> ^schlub:
They definitely do this with men in advertising. Just watch any Gillette commercial. Huge bulging muscles and a penchant for ridiculous technology. A very poor representation of the majority of men.



Thank you for posting this, because i was just about to say - from what i see on tv, there is a roughly equal number of "perfect" men in adverts about aftershave, deodorant, shaving utensils, alcohol adverts, etc... If i compare, on the tv i watch, the number of perfect men to women? I'd say it was equal. Then i was about to say - does this say something about the difference between the sexes if it's only women who cannot help but judge themselves?

So there was my rant which never quite was, because i appreciate your comment and maybe i'm spoiled after all, perhaps it's not so bad here.

However, i really don't like the direction her argument takes, and i had to stop the video because i was that pissed off with it. "Objectifying is the first step on the road to abuse!" I'm sorry, but i can't buy into that and i never will. I don't like the logic whatsoever. It reminds me of the "violent video games cause violence" nonsense. There's always been violence, always will, video games won't change that.

In the same way, there's always been abuse and i would argue that abuse nowadays is far less accepted in our society than ever before. Racist, homophic, whatever. We are completely intolerant of those things now. Historically "raping" your wife wasn't really seen as rape, you were allowed to beat your wife if it was deemed reasonable, that kind of thing.

Absolutely unacceptable nowadays since the ADVENT of the objectification of women in advertisements - the evidence is hardly on her side. Cmon lady... I *hate* that argument.

I agree that it is terrible that this is happening to men now. I don't think that is progress, I think it is a disease that is spreading.

The point you are missing, though, is that these are the VAST MAJORITY of the images that women see. Pay attention to the next movie or TV show you watch. How many "normal" guys are cast in parts? How many "normal" women?

While you are watching, switch the genders in your mind and imagine a woman who is of the same attractiveness level as the men. I think it will shock you when you realize that you see normal looking men ALL THE TIME and rarely do you see normal looking women.

What percentage of all posters/images are JUST male body parts? What percentage of men in the media fit this impossibly high standard?

You can count on one hand the number of "normal" looking women on TV.

It is so pervasive you guys who think we are whining don't even see it.

Compare that to British TV. Men and women both are routinely ... normal. They are chubby, plain looking, balding if they are male. It is a relief to watch British TV.

And I didn't tell you to shut up, @ala_bala. I said think for ten minutes and then speak. Which clearly you didn't do.


>> ^schlub:

They definitely do this with men in advertising. Just watch any Gillette commercial. Huge bulging muscles and a penchant for ridiculous technology. A very poor representation of the majority of men.

>> ^longde:

It's the thousand little ways that make Europe so much more free than Ameristan.


That's why I love British TV. If I could get just the BBC channels over here, I would. Or even better yet, expatriate myself back to the homeland.

>> ^Quboid:

John Oliver (TDS) at 1:05. He looked so small and geeky during his brief British TV career.


Still does a podcast called 'The Bugle' for The Times with another comedian. It's not bad.

John Oliver (TDS) at 1:05. He looked so small and geeky during his brief British TV career.

Great stand-up. I get most of it, being an American decently versed in British TV.

And hold up... wowser to that brief glimpse of the audience member at the end of the video.

FYI: This is British TV show, Banzai. It is a tongue in cheek 'interpretation' of Japanese television. Wiki says that Fox picked it up but dropped it again after complaints it was racist.

This is kinda funny in it's own right, but it's only really good for the shock value. Over the years on British TV Jimmy has been moving away from this style of humor on things like panel shows - less of the cock jokes and more of the genuinely clever witticisms.

As a comedian he's maturing well, but I guess it's still quite easy to do material like this. Sure, I laughed, but I was still a little disappointed.

>> ^blankfist:

Even when they're exercising self-effacing humility, they still sound pompous.


If it helps, a lot of this footage is quite old now. Regional (non-pompous) accents on British TV are becoming more popular.

>> ^videosiftbannedme:
>> ^Deano:
I remember seeing this on British tv but can't recall the act. Must be from the 90's.

Men in Coats.


Ah, very good!

>> ^Deano:
I remember seeing this on British tv but can't recall the act. Must be from the 90's.


Men in Coats.

I remember seeing this on British tv but can't recall the act. Must be from the 90's.

>> ^Yogi:
Well there's another British TV show I now have to watch, thank you sift.


This is a very poor british comedy show compared to our good ones. Man, you'd love some of the really good stuff. This scene didn't even make me laugh!

Well there's another British TV show I now have to watch, thank you sift.