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Zero Punctuation: Red Dead Redemption

dannym3141 says...

>> ^entr0py:

>> ^mentality:
This sounds exactly like the kind of game that I hate playing: Shallow repetitive quests, bad story, time consuming. Red Dead is kind of like the anti-Portal.

Bad story? Did you get that from when he said the game was beautifully written? And I'd venture that almost no one who buys a $60 game wants it to last only 5 hours, as portal did. It's definitely not a casual or budget game. As for the MMOish quests, as he mentioned they're all optional.


I think you've completely misjudged something there - i'm willing to bet the majority of people who played portal would in retrospect pay $60 to have played portal. The fact that valve gave it away as a freebie as part of the orange box is one of the most amazing gifts to gaming.

The length of a game is irrelevant to me, if they had spread portal out over 30 hours and charged me for it i would have thought it was crap. Some of the best games i've ever played have been indie games costing a fraction of normal games, lasting a fraction of the duration too, but Braid was probably one of my favourite recent games since portal.

More often than not i'm disappointed by big titles. The only ones to never have let me down so far IS valve. Bioshock was a really great and fun game, i loved it, but if you said i could only play one and offered me bioshock or portal, i'd choose portal and give you $60 and a thank you.

The gaming market obviously goes in the direction that people like best. Whatever sells, sells. But i cannot get my head around people like you who think that the most important thing is that they give you 60 hours of gaming, WHATEVER the quality of that gaming is.

If a game lasted 30 minutes but it blew me away like no other game before, that'd be a good game. Hypothetically of course, because it's unlikely to be able to do that in 30 mins, but you get my point.

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EDD says...

Hey lucky -

I hope you're doing all right and that I'm not bothering you. I wanted to ask/remind - is it possible to resurrect http://www.videosift.com/video/The-Atheist-Delusion and other videos that karaidl *killed as he was about to leave the site? There one more of these (131 votes, too) that thinker247 akilled shortly before he was hobbled, and that wasn't 'brought back from the dead'. I think I've seen dag accomplish this feat, which is why I'm disturbin' tha peace

And one another thing. Notarobot recently *quality'd my post - I had missed this factoid until today, but nevertheless it hasn't gotten a single additional vote since his. It just doesn't seem plausible. I frequented the site regularly these past 2 days and I never saw it float up in the "Hot" listing, although I suppose it might have hovered on the 4th or the 5th page.

Cheers, Ed

How to properly coil a cable

wax66 says...

This is exactly what I was talking about on the electrician's braid video. Over-undering cables is THE best way to keep smaller, more flexible cables twist and knot free. For REALLY big cables or cable bundles (like for on-site production trucks sometimes we'd have bundles of 4 thick cables or more), the figure 8 method works great.

How To: No Tangle Extension Cord Storage

How To: No Tangle Extension Cord Storage

wax66 says...

Been using the "electrician's braid" for climbing ropes/webbing and electrical cords for over 15 years now. It's still *shocking* to me how rarely it's used. That, and the over-under technique I learned for storing cables in a twist/knot-free way, back in my broadcasting school days, have been invaluable.

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How Videogamers Are Ruining The Industry They Love

RedSky says...

What he was saying is, we reward games disproportionately for the first impressions they make, the marketing, distribution etc... of them when we buy them off the shelves without having tried them, and that's what leads to an industry of derivative sequels, a lack of risk taking and creativity and a side lining of indie games. Whether they gaming industry likes it or not though, piracy is basically enabling people, especially when it comes down to single player games, to 'try before you buy'.

He's not saying anything new by any means. The same thing applies to movies, music, virtually any other genre. The movie industries is flooded with sequels, remakes, rehashes, whereas the music industry basically rides on the coattails of a few big celebrity bands/singers/routine dancing pop stars. If anything the game industry is ahead of the bell curve. When I discuss games with other people, what reviews it's getting comes up way more often as a conversation topic than for movies. I guess movies are generally a more subjective medium though. Not to mention some but definitely not all indie games like Braid, World of Goo, Plants VS Zombies did get lots of coverage on prominent review sites like Gamespot/IGN, which helps a lot.

How Videogamers Are Ruining The Industry They Love

spawnflagger says...

Ok, he basically said 1 thing, then repeated it 6 or 7 times. I guess that's why he calls himself "reverend"...

anyway video games and movies alike - publishers/studios simply aren't willing to risk millions of dollars on something that is independent and creative. The more money that's involved, the less risk they are willing to take.

All these indie games he mentioned - they probably took thousands of dollars (or tens of thousands at most) to create. Assassin's Creed 2 took several million. The only reason they made the sequel was because the first one sold many copies, and many people liked it (even if the good reverend didn't)
The argument he should be making is why isn't there a better distribution channel for indie games? Sure, Steam and XBLA exist, but they aren't teeming with a huge variety of indie games. Braid and World of Goo are good examples of success, but how many others have failed to even be noticed?

I'm a gamer, and like others mentioned above, I've never heard of a single title he mentioned.

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Mass Effect 2nd Teaser

conan says...

>> ^CreamKreator:
Nothing new again. E3 is showing that games are doing like a fourth cycle of better graphics, old ideas. These kind of games are so abundant now, when will we see something new, something unique and fresh, games that don't belong to any category. NO MORE FPSRPGRTSSIMTPS!


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