I'm not arguing for the sake of arguing, I'm arguing because you seem to think "alternative medicine" is superior to medicine. What point are you trying to make about chemotherapy, exactly? In many cases it's a very effective treatment. Do you know what the success rate of, say, acupuncture is for treating cancer? How about therapeutic touch? Or chakra realignment? Or ground turtle shell? Or homeopathy? Or vitamin megadosing? Or evening primrose oil supplements? Or magnetic wristbands? Nil. Nothing. No demonstrable effect. And there's a reason for that. There is no alternative to medicine. There's medicine, and there's "crap that doesn't work".

You're right that the major difference between scientific medicine and "alternative medicine" is the degree that it is run purely as profit generating business. Except that you have it completely the wrong way round. "Alternative medicine" has no chance of curing you, and costs money. Medicine has a chance of curing you, using products and medicines backed up by science, and costs money. I know which I'd rather go for. "Western medicine" (as you call it, though you should note that the practice of science-based medicine isn't limited to the Western world, thank goodness) is interested in cures because the effective interventions are the ones that get used, thereby generating income. It's only in the field of "alternative medicine" that "crap that doesn't work" can be sold for a profit without anyone ever questioning it. If a medical intervention or treatment doesn't work, the scientific method roots it out eventually, but tellingly there is no such self-regulatory framework in place when it comes to "alternative medicine", and the practitioners don't care.

Put it this way: if it were true that science-based medicine didn't "know their ass from a hole in the ground" when it comes to chronic pain then what the hell would make you think that the pseudoscientific bullshitfest that is "alternative medicine" would stand a chance at solving the problem?

>> ^criticalthud:

alright there. not really getting the gist of the statement, are you?
you're arguing for the sake of arguing.
do you know what the success rate of chemo is for curing cancer? pretty much the same as not having it
back surgery? the same
there's plenty of crap out there, and no "medicine" is immune from it. the one major difference between what is labeled as alt and what isn't is the degree that it is run purely as profit generating business. Do you get it? western medicine isn't necessarily interested in cures. doctors might be, but the biz side of it ain't. it's quick fix, in and out, write the latest scrip that has been peddled to you by big pharma, and do the treatments and tests that you are allowed to do by the insurance company.
western medicine doesn't know their ass from a hole in the ground when it comes to chronic pain, because treating something that typically has it's roots in the structure of the body isn't profitable.

alright there. not really getting the gist of the statement, are you?
you're arguing for the sake of arguing.
do you know what the success rate of chemo is for curing cancer? pretty much the same as not having it
back surgery? the same
there's plenty of crap out there, and no "medicine" is immune from it. the one major difference between what is labeled as alt and what isn't is the degree that it is run purely as profit generating business. Do you get it? western medicine isn't necessarily interested in cures. doctors might be, but the biz side of it ain't. it's quick fix, in and out, write the latest scrip that has been peddled to you by big pharma, and do the treatments and tests that you are allowed to do by the insurance company.
western medicine doesn't know their ass from a hole in the ground when it comes to chronic pain, because treating something that typically has it's roots in the structure of the body isn't profitable.

>> ^FlowersInHisHair:

>> ^criticalthud:
being compensated for your work is a far different thing than structuring your entire business according to the bottom line.
>> ^FlowersInHisHair:
>> ^criticalthud:
Western medicine tends to be really good in one area - trauma.
guess where western medicine learned most of it's trauma skills...? yes indeed, the battlefield.
For other things such as chronic pain, western med generally sucks. Partly because you have a for-profit system that makes far more money treating than through prevention or cure.

And alt med isn't "for profit"? Bwahahaha.


And there's a bigger difference between charging for legitimate, scientifically tested practices and products that have been demonstrated to work and charging for sugar pills and magical thinking. Both medicine and "alternative medicine" are for-profit, but "alternative medicine" can't even legitimately claim to have any aims to cure its customers. Medicine is a for-profit enterprise that aims to treat disease and injury with the application of science. "Alternative medicine" is a for-profit enterprise that aims to bilk its marks for as much cash as they can spare (or even more) with little hope of actually treating their complaint.

pretty pathetic that "fox NEWS" now has to hide behind "fox biz" not to be called out for their lies.

Who says Tom Cruise, John Travolta, Kelly Preston and Kirstie Alley are smart people? Why? Because they're famous actors? I never knew that acting = intelligence. Maybe they're not dumb, but not dumb does not automatically equal smart. Obviously the cult of celebrity has adherents in the news biz.

Cool. Glad to hear you are OK.

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Hey DFT!

I'm around. Taking care of biz and cutting down on the internet.

I'll be back sometime. Miss you guys.

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Where are you, rougy?

Hey DFT!

I'm around. Taking care of biz and cutting down on the internet.

I'll be back sometime. Miss you guys.

Say hello to Issy.

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Where are you, rougy?

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