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Stunning Card Flourishes by Dimitri Arleri set to music

Maxwell's Silver Hammer

garmachi says...

By no means do I claim to be a Beatles expert, but here I go:

Two summers ago, I decided, having never really payed attention to the Fab Four before, to immerse myself in "The Beatles Experience." My plan for this was to simulate traveling back in time and reliving their career starting from their surprising burst of popularity all the way to their painful demise. To do this, I acquired their first US release (since, after all, I am a US citizen...) "Please Please Me." I listened to it until I got sick of it. (This took a very long time!) I then acquired their second release, and so on, and listened intently, repeating this process all the way to their end.

I found myself eagerly anticipating the next release, aching for new music while simultaneously reveling in the genius of each new acquisition. Everything they did seemed to completely surpass everything else they had previously done. Surprise after surprise after surprise. The whole exercise took nearly a year, and I can only imagine the yearning and mania which must have accompanied experiencing the whole thing in real time.

Important to note: I decided to exclude any books, interviews, retrospectives, documentaries, etc, and only listen to the music. I had heard various stories of their demise, and decided to leave out all print/visual/other media and let their music tell me the story. I didn't even read the liner notes or song credits. Just the music.

This was an interesting experiment for me, because it became apparent to me very early on that John and Paul had strikingly different musical philosophies and approaches. It was a miracle that they stayed together as long as they did. Toward the end it became painfully obvious that each new album was a struggle to contain two galactic sized musical geniuses at odds. A clear favorite emerged for me, as I'm sure did for millions of fans, and I'll reserve my opinion for some other discussion. For now, the important thing is, it's amazing that they stayed together as long as they did.

I can't listen to Let It Be. All I hear in this album is the fighting, the struggle to express differing styles and it actually makes me sad. When I see them all in the studio gelling perfectly for a common goal despite the differences which took years to ferment, I'm amazed. Even more amazing is that despite all of the opposing forces they exerted, they still managed to transcend and make beautiful music, sad as it was at the end.

Up Up and Away

La Vie En Rose-Pomplamoose

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gwiz665 says...

Good luck, have fun. I'll go pull my armor out of the pantry and ride off to fix the rest of the world's troubles.

In reply to this comment by dag:
I'm not removing shit. You keep fighting those great injustices, brother. I'll tell Sarah's Mom.

In reply to this comment by gwiz665:
That's exactly what I've done. I think she broke "the rules" when she requested it be removed, so I mock her by saying it again (or something similar). And if I want to protest that the easiest way is to mock it. (Hell, I nearly pulled the infamous chuggo video out of sift talk again too, but I can understand your problems with advertisers and didn't want to be too much of a pain to you guys.)

If the mail you got had been to me (and it was my post), I may or may not have removed the info, because if she's getting really hurt and I don't really care, then there's no reason for it to be there. I can honestly not see how she would be so hurt over that though. This is turning into Sierra Noble-gate, I think.

I can certainly understand the disassociation you talk about. The John Gabriel Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory is very true indeed, but I freely identify myself and stand by my words.

My comment was really intended for you, calvados and her; and if you've all seen it, I don't really see the use in having it anymore. If you really feel it hurts her and you (and the sift) you have my blessing to remove it, and I won't bitch about it (any more).

Peace.

In reply to this comment by dag:
One malady of Internet life I feel is that people are very quick to take action for perceived "rights" issues- but seldom consider the individual human beings that their actions affect. It's a disassocation- happens in cars because we can't readily see the people inside and consider the car to be a beast at least in some portion of our brains. We do and say things that we would never do or say to a person's face.

You've taken the easy, automatic action- flipping off a car that you think has broken the road rules. I don't expect you to see it this way, because I'm sure you're feeling fairly defensive at this point. But wow, I really do wish people were more empathetic saw the world less in shades of black and white.

In reply to this comment by gwiz665:
If you want to be smug, move to San Francisco. I'm no more pleased or displeased with myself than normal, because I don't really care. If someone pushes, I push back, and that's all I've done here.

You're the one being a dick to me, not the other way around.

In reply to this comment by dag:
Yes, quite the high road you're taking there. You must be really pleased with yourself. Congrats.

In reply to this comment by gwiz665:
The censorship comes not from you, but from her. She's feeling "outraged" that her daughter was talked about on the Internet, and while you obviously didn't just change the post (which would have been far worse), you passed on a "network note" that essentially made calvados change the post, not to look like a dick. To be completely honest, I'm not sure what was actually in the post before, I made my comment after his changes. I can see the point in not announcing something like she was nude on the beach or whatever in the title, but to guild trip people into not saying anything like it in the comments is just not kosher.

A comment is not a big deal. I don't want anyone to come in and tell me what I can and can't say about something so trivial. The next thing is that she wants me to only think good thoughts about her daughter.

There is such a thing as tact - if someone had died, I wouldn't do a little dance at his funeral - but this is just not relevant. If she wants to maintain the pristine veneer of her little fairy tale offspring, then she can go off to live in Narnia - this is the real world.

I don't care about private if you don't, I'm the one taking the high road.

In reply to this comment by dag:
Censorship. Really? You're going to go that route? Where's the censorship here? Have you seen me deleting anything?

I asked Calvados if he could modify his post to save this kid and her mom a bit of embarrassment - he complied. I waited a week for him to make the change - and I would have done absolutely nothing if he decided not to. Where exactly is this censorship you speak of?

Way to make a moral stand- you sure showed this lady.

PS, I'm making this private- but if this is something you want out in the open, feel free to unprivate it. Ta.



In reply to this comment by gwiz665:
Because I don't like censors. Not in any shape or form.

If I had done a 4Chan, it would be much worse (a fancy photoshop, for instance) - but I'm not a monster. Besides, other people have made far worse comments, and if she's giving you grief over my comment then I am sorry, for you, not her.

And she's not a minor at the "tender age of 19", so she can shove her concern.

In reply to this comment by dag:
Very clever and all - but why? We try hard to make VideoSift not 4Chan. This lady had a legitimate concern for her minor daughter, and this is not nice.

In reply to this comment by gwiz665:
Seen her naked. Life is good.
Edit: Beautiful music, too. I wish her well.

gwiz665 (Member Profile)

dag says...

Comment hidden because you are ignoring dag. (show it anyway)

I'm not removing shit. You keep fighting those great injustices, brother. I'll tell Sarah's Mom.

In reply to this comment by gwiz665:
That's exactly what I've done. I think she broke "the rules" when she requested it be removed, so I mock her by saying it again (or something similar). And if I want to protest that the easiest way is to mock it. (Hell, I nearly pulled the infamous chuggo video out of sift talk again too, but I can understand your problems with advertisers and didn't want to be too much of a pain to you guys.)

If the mail you got had been to me (and it was my post), I may or may not have removed the info, because if she's getting really hurt and I don't really care, then there's no reason for it to be there. I can honestly not see how she would be so hurt over that though. This is turning into Sierra Noble-gate, I think.

I can certainly understand the disassociation you talk about. The John Gabriel Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory is very true indeed, but I freely identify myself and stand by my words.

My comment was really intended for you, calvados and her; and if you've all seen it, I don't really see the use in having it anymore. If you really feel it hurts her and you (and the sift) you have my blessing to remove it, and I won't bitch about it (any more).

Peace.

In reply to this comment by dag:
One malady of Internet life I feel is that people are very quick to take action for perceived "rights" issues- but seldom consider the individual human beings that their actions affect. It's a disassocation- happens in cars because we can't readily see the people inside and consider the car to be a beast at least in some portion of our brains. We do and say things that we would never do or say to a person's face.

You've taken the easy, automatic action- flipping off a car that you think has broken the road rules. I don't expect you to see it this way, because I'm sure you're feeling fairly defensive at this point. But wow, I really do wish people were more empathetic saw the world less in shades of black and white.

In reply to this comment by gwiz665:
If you want to be smug, move to San Francisco. I'm no more pleased or displeased with myself than normal, because I don't really care. If someone pushes, I push back, and that's all I've done here.

You're the one being a dick to me, not the other way around.

In reply to this comment by dag:
Yes, quite the high road you're taking there. You must be really pleased with yourself. Congrats.

In reply to this comment by gwiz665:
The censorship comes not from you, but from her. She's feeling "outraged" that her daughter was talked about on the Internet, and while you obviously didn't just change the post (which would have been far worse), you passed on a "network note" that essentially made calvados change the post, not to look like a dick. To be completely honest, I'm not sure what was actually in the post before, I made my comment after his changes. I can see the point in not announcing something like she was nude on the beach or whatever in the title, but to guild trip people into not saying anything like it in the comments is just not kosher.

A comment is not a big deal. I don't want anyone to come in and tell me what I can and can't say about something so trivial. The next thing is that she wants me to only think good thoughts about her daughter.

There is such a thing as tact - if someone had died, I wouldn't do a little dance at his funeral - but this is just not relevant. If she wants to maintain the pristine veneer of her little fairy tale offspring, then she can go off to live in Narnia - this is the real world.

I don't care about private if you don't, I'm the one taking the high road.

In reply to this comment by dag:
Censorship. Really? You're going to go that route? Where's the censorship here? Have you seen me deleting anything?

I asked Calvados if he could modify his post to save this kid and her mom a bit of embarrassment - he complied. I waited a week for him to make the change - and I would have done absolutely nothing if he decided not to. Where exactly is this censorship you speak of?

Way to make a moral stand- you sure showed this lady.

PS, I'm making this private- but if this is something you want out in the open, feel free to unprivate it. Ta.



In reply to this comment by gwiz665:
Because I don't like censors. Not in any shape or form.

If I had done a 4Chan, it would be much worse (a fancy photoshop, for instance) - but I'm not a monster. Besides, other people have made far worse comments, and if she's giving you grief over my comment then I am sorry, for you, not her.

And she's not a minor at the "tender age of 19", so she can shove her concern.

In reply to this comment by dag:
Very clever and all - but why? We try hard to make VideoSift not 4Chan. This lady had a legitimate concern for her minor daughter, and this is not nice.

In reply to this comment by gwiz665:
Seen her naked. Life is good.
Edit: Beautiful music, too. I wish her well.

dag (Member Profile)

gwiz665 says...

That's exactly what I've done. I think she broke "the rules" when she requested it be removed, so I mock her by saying it again (or something similar). And if I want to protest that the easiest way is to mock it. (Hell, I nearly pulled the infamous chuggo video out of sift talk again too, but I can understand your problems with advertisers and didn't want to be too much of a pain to you guys.)

If the mail you got had been to me (and it was my post), I may or may not have removed the info, because if she's getting really hurt and I don't really care, then there's no reason for it to be there. I can honestly not see how she would be so hurt over that though. This is turning into Sierra Noble-gate, I think.

I can certainly understand the disassociation you talk about. The John Gabriel Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory is very true indeed, but I freely identify myself and stand by my words.

My comment was really intended for you, calvados and her; and if you've all seen it, I don't really see the use in having it anymore. If you really feel it hurts her and you (and the sift) you have my blessing to remove it, and I won't bitch about it (any more).

Peace.

In reply to this comment by dag:
One malady of Internet life I feel is that people are very quick to take action for perceived "rights" issues- but seldom consider the individual human beings that their actions affect. It's a disassocation- happens in cars because we can't readily see the people inside and consider the car to be a beast at least in some portion of our brains. We do and say things that we would never do or say to a person's face.

You've taken the easy, automatic action- flipping off a car that you think has broken the road rules. I don't expect you to see it this way, because I'm sure you're feeling fairly defensive at this point. But wow, I really do wish people were more empathetic saw the world less in shades of black and white.

In reply to this comment by gwiz665:
If you want to be smug, move to San Francisco. I'm no more pleased or displeased with myself than normal, because I don't really care. If someone pushes, I push back, and that's all I've done here.

You're the one being a dick to me, not the other way around.

In reply to this comment by dag:
Yes, quite the high road you're taking there. You must be really pleased with yourself. Congrats.

In reply to this comment by gwiz665:
The censorship comes not from you, but from her. She's feeling "outraged" that her daughter was talked about on the Internet, and while you obviously didn't just change the post (which would have been far worse), you passed on a "network note" that essentially made calvados change the post, not to look like a dick. To be completely honest, I'm not sure what was actually in the post before, I made my comment after his changes. I can see the point in not announcing something like she was nude on the beach or whatever in the title, but to guild trip people into not saying anything like it in the comments is just not kosher.

A comment is not a big deal. I don't want anyone to come in and tell me what I can and can't say about something so trivial. The next thing is that she wants me to only think good thoughts about her daughter.

There is such a thing as tact - if someone had died, I wouldn't do a little dance at his funeral - but this is just not relevant. If she wants to maintain the pristine veneer of her little fairy tale offspring, then she can go off to live in Narnia - this is the real world.

I don't care about private if you don't, I'm the one taking the high road.

In reply to this comment by dag:
Censorship. Really? You're going to go that route? Where's the censorship here? Have you seen me deleting anything?

I asked Calvados if he could modify his post to save this kid and her mom a bit of embarrassment - he complied. I waited a week for him to make the change - and I would have done absolutely nothing if he decided not to. Where exactly is this censorship you speak of?

Way to make a moral stand- you sure showed this lady.

PS, I'm making this private- but if this is something you want out in the open, feel free to unprivate it. Ta.



In reply to this comment by gwiz665:
Because I don't like censors. Not in any shape or form.

If I had done a 4Chan, it would be much worse (a fancy photoshop, for instance) - but I'm not a monster. Besides, other people have made far worse comments, and if she's giving you grief over my comment then I am sorry, for you, not her.

And she's not a minor at the "tender age of 19", so she can shove her concern.

In reply to this comment by dag:
Very clever and all - but why? We try hard to make VideoSift not 4Chan. This lady had a legitimate concern for her minor daughter, and this is not nice.

In reply to this comment by gwiz665:
Seen her naked. Life is good.
Edit: Beautiful music, too. I wish her well.

dag (Member Profile)

gwiz665 says...

If you want to be smug, move to San Francisco. I'm no more pleased or displeased with myself than normal, because I don't really care. If someone pushes, I push back, and that's all I've done here.

You're the one being a dick to me, not the other way around.

In reply to this comment by dag:
Yes, quite the high road you're taking there. You must be really pleased with yourself. Congrats.

In reply to this comment by gwiz665:
The censorship comes not from you, but from her. She's feeling "outraged" that her daughter was talked about on the Internet, and while you obviously didn't just change the post (which would have been far worse), you passed on a "network note" that essentially made calvados change the post, not to look like a dick. To be completely honest, I'm not sure what was actually in the post before, I made my comment after his changes. I can see the point in not announcing something like she was nude on the beach or whatever in the title, but to guild trip people into not saying anything like it in the comments is just not kosher.

A comment is not a big deal. I don't want anyone to come in and tell me what I can and can't say about something so trivial. The next thing is that she wants me to only think good thoughts about her daughter.

There is such a thing as tact - if someone had died, I wouldn't do a little dance at his funeral - but this is just not relevant. If she wants to maintain the pristine veneer of her little fairy tale offspring, then she can go off to live in Narnia - this is the real world.

I don't care about private if you don't, I'm the one taking the high road.

In reply to this comment by dag:
Censorship. Really? You're going to go that route? Where's the censorship here? Have you seen me deleting anything?

I asked Calvados if he could modify his post to save this kid and her mom a bit of embarrassment - he complied. I waited a week for him to make the change - and I would have done absolutely nothing if he decided not to. Where exactly is this censorship you speak of?

Way to make a moral stand- you sure showed this lady.

PS, I'm making this private- but if this is something you want out in the open, feel free to unprivate it. Ta.



In reply to this comment by gwiz665:
Because I don't like censors. Not in any shape or form.

If I had done a 4Chan, it would be much worse (a fancy photoshop, for instance) - but I'm not a monster. Besides, other people have made far worse comments, and if she's giving you grief over my comment then I am sorry, for you, not her.

And she's not a minor at the "tender age of 19", so she can shove her concern.

In reply to this comment by dag:
Very clever and all - but why? We try hard to make VideoSift not 4Chan. This lady had a legitimate concern for her minor daughter, and this is not nice.

In reply to this comment by gwiz665:
Seen her naked. Life is good.
Edit: Beautiful music, too. I wish her well.

dag (Member Profile)

gwiz665 says...

The censorship comes not from you, but from her. She's feeling "outraged" that her daughter was talked about on the Internet, and while you obviously didn't just change the post (which would have been far worse), you passed on a "network note" that essentially made calvados change the post, not to look like a dick. To be completely honest, I'm not sure what was actually in the post before, I made my comment after his changes. I can see the point in not announcing something like she was nude on the beach or whatever in the title, but to guild trip people into not saying anything like it in the comments is just not kosher.

A comment is not a big deal. I don't want anyone to come in and tell me what I can and can't say about something so trivial. The next thing is that she wants me to only think good thoughts about her daughter.

There is such a thing as tact - if someone had died, I wouldn't do a little dance at his funeral - but this is just not relevant. If she wants to maintain the pristine veneer of her little fairy tale offspring, then she can go off to live in Narnia - this is the real world.

I don't care about private if you don't, I'm the one taking the high road.

In reply to this comment by dag:
Censorship. Really? You're going to go that route? Where's the censorship here? Have you seen me deleting anything?

I asked Calvados if he could modify his post to save this kid and her mom a bit of embarrassment - he complied. I waited a week for him to make the change - and I would have done absolutely nothing if he decided not to. Where exactly is this censorship you speak of?

Way to make a moral stand- you sure showed this lady.

PS, I'm making this private- but if this is something you want out in the open, feel free to unprivate it. Ta.



In reply to this comment by gwiz665:
Because I don't like censors. Not in any shape or form.

If I had done a 4Chan, it would be much worse (a fancy photoshop, for instance) - but I'm not a monster. Besides, other people have made far worse comments, and if she's giving you grief over my comment then I am sorry, for you, not her.

And she's not a minor at the "tender age of 19", so she can shove her concern.

In reply to this comment by dag:
Very clever and all - but why? We try hard to make VideoSift not 4Chan. This lady had a legitimate concern for her minor daughter, and this is not nice.

In reply to this comment by gwiz665:
Seen her naked. Life is good.
Edit: Beautiful music, too. I wish her well.

dag (Member Profile)

gwiz665 says...

Because I don't like censors. Not in any shape or form.

If I had done a 4Chan, it would be much worse (a fancy photoshop, for instance) - but I'm not a monster. Besides, other people have made far worse comments, and if she's giving you grief over my comment then I am sorry, for you, not her.

And she's not a minor at the "tender age of 19", so she can shove her concern.

In reply to this comment by dag:
Very clever and all - but why? We try hard to make VideoSift not 4Chan. This lady had a legitimate concern for her minor daughter, and this is not nice.

In reply to this comment by gwiz665:
Seen her naked. Life is good.
Edit: Beautiful music, too. I wish her well.

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