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Where Are All the Bob Ross Paintings? We Found Them.

moonsammy says...

Good for them! I love that the people in charge of his legacy seem to care so much about keeping it "pure" to the degree they're able. I'm certain a ton of these will be on sale eventually, but for now I'm happy they exist entirely outside the world of art collecting.

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Love child of the violin and turntables.

Deano says...

Nice add SilentPoet! I don't seek to impose a narrow definition on the type of videos that can go into Bravo. If it has it's roots in classical, dance or opera it's fair game. Then again VS 3.0 will allow us to tag this video so it goes into the Art collective and Hiphop etc.

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plastiquemonkey (Member Profile)

Ideas for Collectives (Sift Talk Post)

James Roe says...

"We still need a nature collective"

There is a nature channel, we'll be recruiting people to manage channels that already exist in the 3.0 switch, and merging those that overlap. I'm looking at you arts collective.

plastiquemonkey (Member Profile)

Request for Feedback: Collective Changes (Sift Talk Post)

plastiquemonkey says...

collectives should really remain distinct from channels.

channels are like tags, and should be more or less objective and comprehensive. they're a way of filing and organizing all the videos here -- click "animation" or "vintage" or "cute" and you get a fairly well-defined cross-section of the whole site.

but collectives should be more individual and subjective -- more like blogs (collective blogs). people should be able to get a sense of what fits the style of the collective and include anything that fits, even if the total list of videos would have lots of different characteristics (in terms of how many are "animation" or "cute" or "vintage", etc).

a lot of the best collectives cut across multiple channels, including arts, obscure, nick's nacks, and "did that just happen?". none of these will be usefully reduced to a single channel, nor will any channel be improved by filtering collective-associated posts out of the bigger pool.

for example, "obscure" doesn't map out well onto anything more easily defined, like "music" or "vintage". "obscure" won't be better if all the posts that could be "music" or "vintage" are removed, and "music" won't be a better filter if it excludes any relevant posts from "obscure", "rock & roll", "arts", "spanning time", "bravo", etc.

the reverse situation is also a problem. our "arts" collective includes playlists that are supposed to serve as reference points for submissions. these include the plastiquemonkey animation, timelapse, and stop-motion playlists. "animation" is a useful channel, because there's quite a bit of animation (of all sorts) on videosift. but the plastiquemonkey animation playlist has a definite focus: no simpsons, no family guy, lots of award-winning artsy animations.

so if you try to make "arts" the collective into "arts" the channel, what happens to the artsy animation? probably it ends up in "animation" the channel (maybe this is the future "matt groening and friends"?), where it's going to be lost among the simpsons clips. then "arts" the collective probably turns into "visual arts" (painting and sculpture etc), which the current collective description specifically aims to go beyond.

the only fair way to administer the collectives as channels will be with universal invitations and more-or-less objective criteria for inclusion (how could you exclude an animation from "animation"?). but that goes against the whole individual idea of collectives. having everyone on the site a member will make the word "collective" meaningless (and boring).

please leave the channels / collectives distinction alone. it's a useful difference. maybe add more channels, but let the collectives exist according to their own definitions, with their own members lists, however inclusive or exclusive.

as for the rest of it, anything you can add to increase discussion and voting within collectives, and give collective owners more control over what shows up on their video list would be a great improvement...

What is Tae Kwon Do?

rembar says...

I'm tempted to put this in my Fighting Arts collective, but....

I know and respect many TKDers who can throw down, for sure, but I really don't like what the sport has become in terms of fighting ability. Sure, it's fun as a sport in itself, but it's not so great in transferring fight-applicable skills.

*sigh* And there are so many nice kicks, too...

lisacat (Member Profile)

mauz15 says...

Hi Lisacat thank you very much for telling me, and for giving me a working link, you did not have to. Much appreciated. sigh I really need to come back to VS I miss it and have not had the chance to use all these new sweet features...anyway, have a good day

In reply to your comment:
Hi mauz15-
I went to watch one of your posts (http://www.videosift.com/video/The-Monk-and-the-Fish--by-Michael-Dudok-De-Wit) and found it dead. Here is a working version if you get a chance and want to fix it. It's a wonderful film, there's another by the same artist in the Arts Collective right now linking to it.

lisa

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plastiquemonkey (Member Profile)

Spiff says...

It just occurred to me that my clip from 'Forbidden Zone' (which is in the queue) might be more appropriate in the Arts collective than where it is now. I'm not a member of that collective yet, but if you add me, I'll discard it from where it is and resubmit it appropriately.

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Collective Competition Finals (Sift Talk Post)

plastiquemonkey says...

hey, nice work everyone!

agree that pyrex's design is cleaner and simpler -- and probably makes it easy for collective owners to modify colors, etc.

suggest one small modification to the default layout, whichever one is chosen: adding an active/hover property to the +/- voting buttons. the voting buttons on the collective pages are just boxes with the + or - symbol in them -- maybe less obvious in function than the nice arrow images on the VS main page. if there was a slight hover color change, it would be clearer that those boxes are active links.

you can see the kind of thing i mean on the Arts collective page, or the plastiquemonkey profile page. in pyrex's layout, the hover color could be the bright VS blue, the same one being used for links.

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