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Liz Cheney vs Lawrence O'Donnell on GMA

Zonbie says...

Waterboarding is not torture.
Also. The Sky Is Green And Grass Is Blue.

From Wiki. (yes not the de-facto in fact gathering but helpful and does state sources in this article)
Waterboarding is a form of torture that consists of immobilizing the victim on his or her back with the head inclined downwards, and then pouring water over the face and into the breathing passages. By forced suffocation and inhalation of water, the subject experiences drowning and is caused to believe they are about to die. It is considered a form of torture by legal experts.

http://www.hrw.org/en/news/2006/04/05/open-letter-attorney-general-alberto-gonzales

She should stop reading her script and think for herself, puppet.

Obama on Investigating Bush Crimes: "Need to Look Forward"

Farhad2000 says...

They said the same thing >> ^NetRunner:
Color me an optimist. Here's what I heard:

My general view when it comes to my Attorney General is: he is the people's lawyer -- Eric Holder has been nominated -- his job is to uphold the Constitution, and look out for the interests of the American people;


Color me unconvinced since this is the same thing said about Michael Mukasey when he got the USAG position after Alberto Gonzales.

His nomination was a circus of trying to figure out whether or not he thought water boarding constituted torture.

Introduced policies are far harder to over turn, politically even Obama's charisma couldn't cover a possible situation where someone says that Bush policies could have prevented a future attack. Thus there is a reluctance to dismantle them and accuse anyone retroactively of crimes.

Which only continues the myth of American naive innocence.

Conspiracy by liberals to ruin Dick Cheney

NetRunner says...

I can't believe people want to charge Saint Cheney with having committed a crime.

For god's sake, he's Obama's Islamic, Lying Cousin. I know that the media is shameless about digging into the President-Elect's family, but if the last 8 years have taught me anything, it's that the media shouldn't question anything the President does for the first 5-6 years of his administration.

Anything else would be treasonous.

Not to mention, they're charging Bush's mentally handicapped friend from Texas, Alberto Gonzales. That's just not fair! Fortunately, the man's probably already forgotten all about it, and will forget to show up at his trial, and forget to heed the subpoenas when they arrive.

It's not his fault, he was born without the ability to recall his own criminal wrongdoings!

Personally, I'm tired of all these liberal activist judges from the blue state of Texas picking on their native son President, George W. Bush.

Don't they know that when God wrote the Consitution, Article III says "Thou shalt not question Republican President's absolute authority, but thou shalt not respect Democratic President's authority at all?" I mean seriously, guys, didn't they teach you that when you were getting your law degree from Pat Robertson's Liberty University, or at your neighborhood GOPAC cell?

Seriously, it's like you all have forgotten the Golden Rule of Conservatism: take whatever you want, however you can!

Conspiracy by liberals to ruin Dick Cheney

vairetube says...

http://www.bluebloggin.com/2008/11/19/the-force-is-gaining-on-darth-cheney-and-gang/

It said there was a “direct conflict of interest” because Mr Cheney had influence over federal contracts awarded to prison companies.

US grand juries weigh evidence to decide whether a case is worthy of being sent for a full trial, before issuing formal charges known as indictments.

The three-page indictment also alleges that former US Attorney General Alberto Gonzales “used his position…to stop the investigations as to the wrong doings.”

The grand jury wrote that it made its decision “with great sadness,” but said they had no other choice but to indict Mr Cheney and Mr Gonzales “because we love our country.”

Several other related indictments were brought against a host of public officials in what one lawyer called a circus act by the outgoing prosecutor, Mr Guerra, who he said was seeking revenge in his final weeks in office

Bin Laden To Outdo 9/11?

John McCain to ACORN: You Are 'What Makes America Special'

jwray says...

>> ^my15minutes:
remember those 8 illegal US district attorney firings, by alberto gonzales?
one of the DAs was named david iglasias.
he's actually the real military lawyer, upon whose life the movie "A Few Good Men" was based.
a republican, who after the service, had been appointed a federal DA, by bush.
and ACORN is the organization that he investigated, as a DA, found insufficient evidence to prosecute, and was then fired for not prosecuting, by gonzales.


Also, ACORN is required by law in most states to turn in all voter registration forms they receive to the authorities, even if the name written on it seems suspicious like "Oliver Closoff". McCain's running attack ads pushing Obama's alleged guilt by association when there isn't even a shred of evidence of ACORN's wrongdoing.

John McCain to ACORN: You Are 'What Makes America Special'

my15minutes says...

remember those 8 illegal US district attorney firings, by alberto gonzales?

one of the DAs was named david iglasias.
he's actually the real military lawyer, upon whose life the movie "A Few Good Men" was based.
a republican, who after the service, had been appointed a federal DA, by bush.

and ACORN is the organization that he investigated, as a DA, found insufficient evidence to prosecute, and was then fired for not prosecuting, by gonzales.

John McCain: "That One"

quantumushroom says...

If you want to see despicable, unapologetic racism, sexism and ageism, look no further than the Donkey Party and their media lackeys. Observe the way they've treated Powell, Palin, Clarence Thomas, Alberto Gonzales, Condi, Bush's wife and daughters and now McCain.

Anyone outside of the liberal multi-cult circle of tolerance is fair game for their treachery, yet they're the first to howl "racism" when called on their BS. The sissies can dish it but not take it.

Robert Byrd, the "ex" Ku Klux Klansman is whom Democrats revere as "the conscience of the Senate".

So please, liberals, refrain from pretending you're not hateful in your own special ways.

You Liberals are jealous of Sarah Palin. (Politics Talk Post)

rougy says...

Jealous?

Yeah, just like we're jealous of Karl Rove for being a bigger weasel. Jealous of Donald Rumsfeld for being a bigger douche. Jealous of Alberto Gonzales for kissing Bush's ass better than we ever could.

Jealous that if I blew off a subpoena I'd probably be in jail before midnight.

You cons have a hell of a ticket this year: Father Time and Miss January.

Imagine the ratings you'll get?

Environmental Hearing gets....heated

11714 says...

>> ^NetRunner:
NinjaFish, and littledragon, you're right. This isn't funny.
I guess I'm getting a little jaded -- after Alberto Gonzales' testimony, it was clear that the rule of law was not going to be enforced on these criminals during the 110th Congress. President Obama and the 111th better bring criminal charges on the former Bush administration, or future administrations will use it as precedent for flouting the law for their own purposes.
On the bright side, it looks like Democrats will prevail on the EPA issue.
As a bonus, this incident made John Boehner have a temper tantrum.


thanks for agreeing and that press release stating waxman was abusive is pretty much bs. Was the chairman OUT OF LINE for demanding a very simple answer for a very simple question? Why did republican Issa ask him to stop?

and also it should be noted in the video clip on John Boehner's (lol boner?)site DOES NOT show the question that Waxman asked. Its almost as if they do not want this question answered or heard by the American people.

Environmental Hearing gets....heated

Environmental Hearing gets....heated

NetRunner says...

NinjaFish, and littledragon, you're right. This isn't funny.

I guess I'm getting a little jaded -- after Alberto Gonzales' testimony, it was clear that the rule of law was not going to be enforced on these criminals during the 110th Congress. President Obama and the 111th better bring criminal charges on the former Bush administration, or future administrations will use it as precedent for flouting the law for their own purposes.

On the bright side, it looks like Democrats will prevail on the EPA issue.

As a bonus, this incident made John Boehner have a temper tantrum.

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Alberto Gonzales on the Freedom of Information Act



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