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22-year-old Frank Zappa on the Steve Allen Show

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quantumushroom says...

Conservatives divide the world in terms of good and evil while liberals do it in terms of the rich and poor. - Dennis Prager

The United States is a nation of laws, badly written and randomly enforced. – Frank Zappa

Government is the great fiction through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else. - Frederic Bastiat

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A frail, bandaged Dennis Hopper receives his Hollywood star

choggie says...

Shit man....PC takes a toll on you pretty quick, with or without treatment-Zappa went fast-he refused treatment once diagnosed.

Maybe we should get our prostates removed at 50 and get those penis pumps installed....fuck a hard-on,....d'rather die inna car crash-

I love you Dennis Hopper-always will. Get high Soon!

Texas State Board of Education Rewrites History (Religion Talk Post)

choggie says...

Hey, Texas is a big fucking state-We grows some smart motherfuckers here as well-the stereotypical Texan to the Brits and Japanese still involves horses and six-shooters, longhorns and oil derricks. You wanna rip on a state fulla wankers, try Mississippi, Arkansas, West Virginia, Kentucky....fuck, Ever been to Montana or Nebraska?? Central Kansas??

Let's try California-As a transplant to that flaky, fucking wonderland, I encountered day after day after day the most gullible, self-absorbed idgits imaginable, bereft of common sense and practical life skills, with a glazed look in the eyes reminiscent of so many white-tailed deer frolicking on Texas highways with headlights-in-eyes. For christ sakes, they elected a no-acting hack more than once, to govern the motherfucker. Remember Jerry Brown??? Fuck man, Arnold's goddamn family had positions of power in Nazi Germany....real fucking bright those fault-dwellers-Zappa said it best-

"California's got the most of them
Boy, they got a host of them....

"You might call us Flakes
Or something else you might coin us
But we know you're so greedy
That you'll probably join us
We're comin' to get you, we're comin' to get you
We're comin' to get you, we're comin' to get you"

-Flakes

Saturday morning cartoons taught you collectivism! (Politics Talk Post)

choggie says...

The socio-genetic experiment has worked well-Gone are the days of bashing people over thehead with mallets and blowing them up with TNT-I watched Sesame Street for the musical numbers-The best cartoons were ones with no message whatsoever rather, the renderings and animation always held preeminence over the scripting. Mornings before public school programming were spent with the 3 stooges and Bugs, Woody Woodpecker and re-runs of Twilight zone and Outer Limits at night...

I grew up listening to music more that suckling of of the cathode ray nipple-Lot's of Zappa, obscure garage bands, and selective pop. Television was clear as a fucking bell to me- An insidious programming glow for those whose minds were already forming into a mass of putty easily manipulated and influenced to do the bidding of the advertisers, financiers, and criminal politicians bent on turning everyone into easily managed robots.(I did watch every Charlie's Angels episode each week, and had posters of all of em, on the wall opposite the black light posters!)

Fast-forward to the now and it would seem that the shit worked better than expected. The last couple of generations are as gullible and susceptible as ever to the machine.

Art, music, performance, and the artisan trades are dying-the third-world is polluting the first(by design), and regurgitated, hackneyed scripts have replaced what was once a higher more inspired art.

More power to ya BF, as you do battle in the exclusive arena you have chosen....The passion is what is important.

Pat Condell: The crooked judges of Amsterdam

NordlichReiter says...


Throughout history, the only blood to be spilled has been done at the hands of the religious? Does that make sense?

In public, there should be caps on speech. In the US, the principle of shouting 'fire' in a crowded theater is on well known restriction on free speech. The line is also drawn on public hate speech that incites immediate violence. I think that we should also restrict speech that leads to violence, as many countries do. I don't care too much about what a person does or says in their home, if it doesn't harm me.




Run that buy me again? Hang on, one more time I didn't quiet believe my eyes! I, wait I can't say anything because of the new caps on freedom of expression. Oh wait, this website is now gone because of the new international laws that stop us from free speech. Guess what Longde, your speech on this website would be capped just as everyone else would be.

Welcome to the world were no one can speak without being beheaded because "someone might get offended." Hang on, while we're at it lets go ahead and hang:



Wait, here is a whole list you can start with; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Free_speech_activists.

Hell while we are being politically correct lets go ahead and enact a law that will make mandatory executions for all independent investigative journalists. I mean while we are going all out here, why don't we go ahead and make it a crime to be anything independent.

I think someone said this before me, "There can be no freedom without free speech."Free Press. You know what they say? If you don't like it don't read it! If you don't like it don't watch it! If you don't like it don't eat it! If you don't like it go back to your protective bubble!

Hypberbole aside where I come from it is an inalienable right to speak your mind even if it offends someone. It is that offended persons right to think you are a douche bag. But as soon as there is violence both parties are in the wrong. Justice is properly blind but in most cases she is not stupid; she doth not tread across that line to become a tyrant.

Quotes from one John Stuart Mill speaking on the Harm Principle.


If the arguments of the present chapter are of any validity, there ought to exist the fullest liberty of professing and discussing, as a matter of ethical conviction, any doctrine, however immoral it may be considered. (1978, 15)



John Stuart Mill quote on the Harm Principle, again:


In "On Liberty" (1859) John Stuart Mill argued that "...there ought to exist the fullest liberty of professing and discussing, as a matter of ethical conviction, any doctrine, however immoral it may be considered."[28] Mill argues that the fullest liberty of expression is required to push arguments to their logical limits, rather than the limits of social embarrassment. However, Mill also introduced what is known as the harm principle, in placing the following limitation on free expression: "the only purpose for which power can be rightfully exercised over any member of a civilized community, against his will, is to prevent harm to others.[28
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What do these quotes mean to you and I? Well they mean simply; that a person can speak their mind so long as the argument presented is valid even if it is embarrassingly immoral. That means, as it is already a statute the US, that hate crime is not free speech. But the prosecuting party has the burden of proof. They have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that a person had the intention of causing harm with said speech. Then we enter the realm of Libel and Slander. A person has to proven knowingly lieing about someone in order to be charged with Libel or Slander.

I have for you, sir or mam a quote from Saint Bernard of Clairvaux, this quote is often confused with Samuel Johnson's "The road to hell is paved with good intentions."

Hell is paved with good intentions." Even earlier than that, it's been attributed to Saint Bernard of Clairvaux (1091-1153)





Put down the Pipe ... (Sift Talk Post)

choggie says...

^Sagemind, don't let lazy stop you-you have had the stamina and dedication to flattening your ass in that chair that got you to where you are today on the site-editing software I have and never use it-will one day, but you do not have time to be dilly-dallying with it now.

Take your inspiration for creation, and enroll in the Roger Corman school of film. "Cut, excellent, beautiful, move on to scenes 14-91." You have 10 days to give the producers a can of fertilizer for the premiere in Hoboken. One take wonders hit every 5th-7th time....just look at the kids who produced the ultimately unwatchable and highly successful, Blair Witch Project. Amazing what pot and fake butter can do to an audience. Take out your camera, write the script onna cocktail napkin and roll camera.

Here are a few tips to remember, elements that win every time with gullible audiences of freaks, geeks, tweaks, and the uni-dimensional meek, the latter being the ones that Frank Zappa reminded, will inherit nothing.

Nudity: Tasteful snippets of T&A (no P, unless it's a passing flash that keeps the audience wanting more or wondering if that was what they think it was), will distract an audience from content or lack of inherent talent...use sparingly, or folks may become jaded, dysfunctional social rejects.

Profanity: No film that has ever placed in the last 40 years is without it...use sparingly, do not use any of my contributions as an example.

Set: Provide the viewer with enough to occupy their feeble minds in the BACKGROUND, to distract them from the script that looked great yesterday, but stinks like foreign cheese after the drugs have worn off the next....litter the scene with props, gadgetry and eye-candy...try dumping a garbage can on the floor and re-arranging it a few times, perhaps....(HINT:most props are made of cardboard, plaster, or Styrofoam.)

Fire: Cheap and ever present, combustibles make for good cinema....think of all the chick flicks you have had to suffer, without smoke, there can be no flames.

Actors/Actresses-Optional elements of any film, these are like friends...-dime-a-dozen clutter which distract from the task at hand-employ the services of the homeless, have animals do your bidding, stack Barbies or plastic army men to the ceiling, and roll camera....insects work well too, they are always in character.

Hope this helped.



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