>> ^kronosposeidon:

Oh Canada, why you so crazy?


Why humans so crazy? Go ants.

Oh *Canada, why you so crazy?

>> ^quantumushroom:
In all 50 states of the republic, driving is a privilege, not a right.
And yet socialists believe health care is a "right".


Why is that crazy? It's reckless to let certain people drive. It's a threat to society. Motor vehicles kill tens of thousands of people every year, so that's not hyperbole. There's no equivalent danger to providing health care.

Hospitals are already legally required to provide aid to everyone, but the implementation now is terrible for patients and expensive for the rest of us. You're already living in a socialism, I guess, just implemented very stupidly.

Moving freight, airplanes and battleships requires different solutions (in my opinion) then the problem of getting your kids to the hockey game.

The engines that run minivans are identical to the ones used by freight ships, freight trains, Farm implements, highway tractors, backup generators, battleships and prop planes. The same solution applies to them all. In fact, large enough ships like carriers and subs already run off electricity instead of oil because it is cheaper.


Even if energy storage technology was to rapidly become what we would need it to be, where would the energy come from if the source for more then half of our current use was to vanish?


We have enough sources of uranium and thorium to meet global energy needs for 100's of years. With any luck, we can develop renewable sources like wind,tidal and solar with that kind of time to get them ready. If we're really lucky, maybe we'll even get fusion power before that and then we are good for the lifetime of the solar system. As a bonus, nuclear is cheaper when developed on a large scale, France is making good money running over 80% nuclear power and exporting it's cheaper electricity to the rest of Europe.


A battery won't move an 18 wheeler. The only thing that will move an 18 wheeler is foreign oil, diesel and gasoline, and our domestic natural gas.

That is utter nonesense. Lookup Tesla motors, they've actually managed to use current battery technology to make a Lotus Elise that is FASTER than it's oil driven counter-part. The argument is as silly as when people felt automobiles where worthless because they couldn't go as far as a horse without a fill-up. Batteries don't need to improve too much more to be a viable replacement and then a landslide shift will take place to cheaper more powerfull electric vehicles.


In the mean time, let me know when you've found a battery that can power an ocean liner.


And this is your fundamental and underlying misunderstanding. The navy is currently using compact nuclear generators as giant batteries to power their largest ships more cheaply and without any dependence on oil. The problem for ocean liner's isn't building a battery that is big enough, it's building them SMALL enough. If a battery can be made small enough to replace the gas tank in a car, then you can power ANYTHING bigger than that car as well by using 2,10 or 1000 such batteries. Already with current laptop battery technology we are almost there. We don't need a breakthrough, a few small improvements to weight and cost and the solution is there. Anything to small to be powered by a compact nuclear generator can instead be run off of batteries without a loss in performance or ability.


The social attachment to oil is much deeper the powering the transportation to get to the grocery store or the beach. It is in every piece of food you get at the grocery store or bring to the beach. It is in the road you drive on, the oil that lubricates the engine as well as just the gas tank.


But moving goods is all still part of the transportation network. And ALL of those applications use internal combustion engines that can be replaced with only a moderately improved battery over those available today.


The agricultural attachment to oil is not just that it is used in the production and delivery of the fertilizer that grows the food to feed the citizen or just the fuel in the gas tank of the grain harvester and other farm machinery.


I grew up on a farm. The agricultural attachment to oil is again dominated by the use of internal combustion engines for machinery, which is easily replaced with a better battery.


The political attachment to oil is not just ensuring that a population have access to the cheap energy for their car, but the cheap fuel for the cheap power plant the provides the cheap electricity for to run the fridge for the cheap food brought from all corners of the earth.

Wrong, the cheap power plant runs off of coal, not oil. Coal reserves utterly dwarf oil reserves, that's why not even crazy people talk about 'peak' coal. In fact, many talk about converting coal to oil if necessary.


I'm sorry, but the entirety of the arguments you make NEVER go beyond the assumption that nothing can replace internal combustion engines and so when oil runs out everything using them is doomed. Fortunately that is not the reality we live in. Even with current technology, battery powered electric motors are begining to appear in automobiles. The military has been running their largest ships on electricty and independent of oil for decades. We are not looking at a dire need for a major breakthrough. We only need small, incremental improvements to battey technology to being able to replace internal combustion engines with batteries, and oil with electricity. Then we are free to simply expand the electric grid, which we have been doing for nearly a century already and are getting rather good at.

hi this is my first time posting anything on the shift i see the vids from blusenes links : )

i up voted this couse there is a lot of propaganda from the other side so why not from both and because any church will tell you that the bible is the words of god so if these are things that are written in it, then how can they be wrong ? dose that mean that god can be wrong or that he is wrong? and if you need to go to school to understand and interpret the bible properly then that means it was written by god for a select group of people..?

i think that the bible was made up by people thats why its so crazy and if you really read it you will see that the biggest sin is insubordination example - in sodom and gomorrah lots wife turns to a pillar of salt for looking back at the cities other then that she did nothing wrong wtf she got the same punishment aka death for looking back as the sinners in the cities..

its all sort of funny to me..

" He had been reading a book that claims its the most perfect, inerroneous, FINAL word of God Himself, and that anyone who says otherwise deserve death and his killer deserve paradise. " Well I'm certainly no faith-hugger, but millions of other people also read that book, and didnt do what he did, so I would like to exclude that as the main reason. A part of freedom of speech is definitely to read religious books and say religious words. I don't why he is crazy, but I'm sure it's not a book. And crazy he is, because that's what I call people killing other people for other reasons than direct self-defense. (That means you too soldiers) Getting religion into this argument is just looking for scapegoats. This man is insane.

Someone needs to come on TV and make the claim, however outrageous, that Foley has been unfairly persecuted, so that the extreme right in the country can again feel okay about voting Republican, and Coulter is just the one to do it, apparently. After all, why not - that crazy bitch will say anything to get on TV and sell books.