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Box-Ninja Cat ATTACK!

ForgedReality says...

>> ^Gabe_b:

>> ^ForgedReality:
>> ^Gabe_b:
It's like a cat version of The World's Most Useless Machine
Angry declawed cats are the best. Ours was tearing up the wallpaper and my hands till we had her declawed. Now all she has is marshmallows of rage

Declawing is horrible cruelty. I think it should be made illegal. What's wrong with clipping the cat's nails every so often? Don't be lazy. It pretty much shows your lack of affection and concern for your animal.
Please read this: http://www.declawing.com

No doubt it is. I had to watch her pad around on bloody bandaged paws for a fortnight. We did it as a last resort. Living as expats, not sure of how long we could keep an animal it didn't seem moral to get a kitten so we got a shelter cat. Turned out she'd been abused by her first owners fiance, and then spent several months locked up alone in a tiny box. By the time we got her it wouldn't have even been accurate to call her feral as a feral cat has survival skills and will often be quite friendly.
After a couple of months of her tearing up everything, and attacking us for petting, sitting near or just walking part her we asked the shelter guy for advice. He suggested dumping her out on the street, but at 3 years old already, and in a country where it's common to abuse and cut the tails of stay cats for kicks, it didn't seem fair. She was going to live as an apartment cat for the rest of her life, and if every interaction with humans resulted in her panicking and hurting them, making them freak out at her and reinforce her fears, then it was going to be a pretty miserable life.
I have lived with half a dozen cats that have lived since kittenhood in stable situations and never have for a second considered having their claws ripped out to make my life easier. This seemed, after exhausting plenty of other options, to be the best option.
Since we had it done, things have improved considerably for her. She spends most nights on the sofa snuggling with me or my girlfriend and sleeps in bed pretty much every night. She still has attacks of rage, but when she does now she isn't confronted by a yelling similarly pissed of human. If that's too much ambiguity for you then shrug


Sad. I can say I would probably have tried harder to work with her, and teach her we're not all out to get her, but then I wasn't in that particular situation, so I don't really know. The story you relate softens the blow a bit, but it still personally feels a bit extreme. Maybe if I had been in your situation, I would be able to better relate.

I could never have a cat declawed. Even if it took years of therapy and calming down, I would do anything in my power to rehabilitate, rather than chop my cat's toes off. It seems like adding more abuse to an already disturbed animal. But like I said, I wasn't there, so I'll assume you did everything in your power.

I do commend you for taking in a shelter cat and not having it put down when you discovered its mental state, though. That at least shows good intentions.

Box-Ninja Cat ATTACK!

Gabe_b says...

>> ^ForgedReality:

>> ^Gabe_b:
It's like a cat version of The World's Most Useless Machine
Angry declawed cats are the best. Ours was tearing up the wallpaper and my hands till we had her declawed. Now all she has is marshmallows of rage

Declawing is horrible cruelty. I think it should be made illegal. What's wrong with clipping the cat's nails every so often? Don't be lazy. It pretty much shows your lack of affection and concern for your animal.
Please read this: http://www.declawing.com


No doubt it is. I had to watch her pad around on bloody bandaged paws for a fortnight. We did it as a last resort. Living as expats, not sure of how long we could keep an animal it didn't seem moral to get a kitten so we got a shelter cat. Turned out she'd been abused by her first owners fiance, and then spent several months locked up alone in a tiny box. By the time we got her it wouldn't have even been accurate to call her feral as a feral cat has survival skills and will often be quite friendly.
After a couple of months of her tearing up everything, and attacking us for petting, sitting near or just walking part her we asked the shelter guy for advice. He suggested dumping her out on the street, but at 3 years old already, and in a country where it's common to abuse and cut the tails of stay cats for kicks, it didn't seem fair. She was going to live as an apartment cat for the rest of her life, and if every interaction with humans resulted in her panicking and hurting them, making them freak out at her and reinforce her fears, then it was going to be a pretty miserable life.
I have lived with half a dozen cats that have lived since kittenhood in stable situations and never have for a second considered having their claws ripped out to make my life easier. This seemed, after exhausting plenty of other options, to be the best option.
Since we had it done, things have improved considerably for her. She spends most nights on the sofa snuggling with me or my girlfriend and sleeps in bed pretty much every night. She still has attacks of rage, but when she does now she isn't confronted by a yelling similarly pissed of human. If that's too much ambiguity for you then *shrug*

Box-Ninja Cat ATTACK!

ForgedReality says...

>> ^Gabe_b:

It's like a cat version of The World's Most Useless Machine
Angry declawed cats are the best. Ours was tearing up the wallpaper and my hands till we had her declawed. Now all she has is marshmallows of rage


Declawing is horrible cruelty. I think it should be made illegal. What's wrong with clipping the cat's nails every so often? Don't be lazy. It pretty much shows your lack of affection and concern for your animal.

Please read this: http://www.declawing.com

Box-Ninja Cat ATTACK!

Gabe_b says...

It's like a cat version of The World's Most Useless Machine
Angry declawed cats are the best. Ours was tearing up the wallpaper and my hands till we had her declawed. Now all she has is marshmallows of rage

Any Sifters bought an iPad? (Blog Entry by dag)

dag says...

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@Farhad2000 - looking back it's easy to declare that the GUI would have happened anyway, but I would posit that there are certain crucial points where innovation has moved everybody forward in a big leap. I know that Windows has been around for most of your life - and must seem like it always has been - but I remember when "windowing" didn't exist - and the joy of discovering how a mouse works, trash cans, WYSIWYG, etc, etc. I also remember what platform that was on. All credit to Xerox PARC - but Apple brought you the window metaphor, mice and pretty much all the symbology on your Windows® desktop. (wallpaper, screen savers, draggable icons, control panels, paint programs). If Apple didn't change the paradigm of how we use computers at that point, then I would argue with your definition of paradigm changing.

I would also posit that the same thing has happened, albeit in a smaller way, with the iPhone and iPad. finger optimised UI, Flick to scroll, bounce back scrolling, pinch to zoom and more are innovations out of Apple's skunkworks. These innovations exist on Android and Pre phones - but to assume that this would have happened without Apple is naive.

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High School Teachers Use Laptop Webcams to Spy on Students!

Shepppard says...

>> ^cybrbeast:
To all those people here supporting the spying of the kids' activities with or without the webcam: How would you like it if your employer used these measures? You are probably using his computer during times in which you should be working, but you aren't. You're just doing some mostly harmless recreation on VideoSift.
I say if the grades of these children aren't suffering and if they manage to hand in their homework on time, there should be no reason to monitor their computer activity.
At high school I almost never did any schoolwork and also used the computers for unrelated stuff. However I finished high school with good grades, and I'm currently finishing my university master's degree. I can't imagine the hell high school would have been if I was constantly monitored to be actively doing schoolwork.


One of my employers DID use this method. It's how they made sure we weren't using unnecessary bandwidth, or slacking off while on a phone call. It's a good QA method.

That being said, you =/= everybody. Just because you slacked off and managed to get good grades doesn't mean everybody does. There are people out there that unless they focus on what they're doing will be sidetracked constantly, and any form of temptation will cause that. I used to be one of those people, the minute I started doing something else my work suffered and I got terrible marks, the only thing that salvaged them sometimes was from me getting Hoffed, forcing me to re-focus on my work.

I don't understand why people are so upset about this method when it's at school. You're GIVEN a laptop, and the only expectation is that when you're at school, you do schoolwork on it. The only difference between this and a teacher walking around behind you looking at what you're doing, is you can't hide anything with this method, they see exactly what you're doing.

High School Teachers Use Laptop Webcams to Spy on Students!

Shepppard says...

Too many questions.

Who paid for the laptops?
If the school paid, do they get the laptops back to pass on to a different generation when that one is moving on?
Were there rules or regulations if the laptop is school owned?
Did they sign a waver not realizing this was in the fine print?
Are the laptops the kids?

I need more information on this before I take one side over the other, however, I'm leaning more towards the teacher then the kids.

In highschool, we had a computer lab in the public library attached to our school, with open access to students on their spare or lunch etc. When the lab wasn't in use by students, it was open to the public, so they couldn't just block certain pages.

When students were on them, they had to log into their school account which had an underlying program like the one shown above, so that a teacher could just look at what you were doing. If it was schoolwork, it was fine. If you were slacking off, they'd generally lock your computer and throw up a picture of david hasslehoff, until you went over and appologised for not doing you work and asked them to remove it.

Now, if this is the kids own little toy, there's no WAY he can be charged with improper conduct for anything, because the picture as "evidence" is taken illegally, and therefore in-admissible as evidence, worst that happens is the kid gets a slap on the wrist.

If the laptop is school property, and he had to sign it out, or sign some form of contract before using it, and in either case whatever he signed said "Oh, and by the way, we reserve the right to watch you in your home" he may be S.O.L.

[Edit]: the laptops issued to high-school students Seems to me like these are school property. The kids were probably given a waiver their parents had to sign to get them, along with a deposit of sorts. That waiver would probably say they have this program installed on the laptops, and will use it to check up on the kids.



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