*ding-ding-ding* On the next broadcast/airing of UFC... it's Prickly Pigeon vs Mauling Meow...

>> ^swedishfriend:

joe rogan is watched by over a billion people every ufc event (yes over a billion people watch each UFC event). He still does stand up and he is a black belt in Jiu-Jitsu, had a great part on one of the best sitcoms of all time, News Radio. He is an open cannabis user (brave for media personality). He is teh roxxors.


He's also a moon hoaxer, i.e. he thinks the Moon landings were faked. Unless he's retracted those statements and admitted he was very wrong(some time later) after being completely dismantled and destroyed by Phil Plait, of Bad Astronomy fame, on I think it was Penn & Teller's radio show. He made a huge fool of himself; I can only hope he's learned something from that experience.

I tend to look at it the other way...the core of religion is providing a soft cushy life for priests. All the rest is window dressing designed solely to attract new hosts for the parasites.
>> ^Xaielao:

A billion people watch every UFC event? Out of who's ass did you pull that number?
As to the topic, at religions heart is a message about living a good life that is healthy and kind to others. But unfortunately that heart is bound by thick cords of dogma and forced belief in the nonsensical. Religion's surface is what done little but hold humanity behind. At it's core religion can help people live better lives. But on it's surface we see greed and the desire for power, wealth and control over the masses at any cost.

A billion people watch every UFC event? Out of who's ass did you pull that number?

As to the topic, at religions heart is a message about living a good life that is healthy and kind to others. But unfortunately that heart is bound by thick cords of dogma and forced belief in the nonsensical. Religion's surface is what done little but hold humanity behind. At it's core religion can help people live better lives. But on it's surface we see greed and the desire for power, wealth and control over the masses at any cost.

joe rogan is watched by over a billion people every ufc event (yes over a billion people watch each UFC event). He still does stand up and he is a black belt in Jiu-Jitsu, had a great part on one of the best sitcoms of all time, News Radio. He is an open cannabis user (brave for media personality). He is teh roxxors.

>> ^mentality:

This fight made me a fan of Fitch.


Yeah me too...he's on a tear as well so I think he might actually beat GSP.

Pfft, skrew rugby or that pansy-ass UFC, cheerleading is the worlds deadliest sport.

http://www.sixwise.com/Newsletters/2009/July/08/What-is-the-Worlds-Most-Dangerous-Sport.htm

You wanna be a real man? Thats right, cheer.

@xxovercastxx

Can't agree more with you on the Bodies issue... but I find it in ~95% of all full contact Martial Art clips...

I did not know about the SAC - UFC issue. Thanks for enlightening me.

I'm so sick of hearing 'Bodies' in every MMA video.

But to the topic at hand... It's important to remember this is a 'highlight reel'. You didn't have this kind of brutality from start to finish in a Pride event.

I would like the unified rules to be a little more open just to keep the fighters moving, but not so much that there's a huge risk of serious injury. I like the fighters to keep coming back, not end up in a wheelchair.

The 12-6 elbow is obviously a really stupid rule. Elbows are fine as-is in unified rules aside from that.

Knees to the head of a grounded opponent are fine with me, so long as it's not to the top of the head (compressing the spine), likewise with soccer kicks.

Piledrivers and strikes to the base of the neck should remain illegal.

I'm not sure about headbutting. I don't know of a good reason for it to be illegal off the top of my head.

Whether or not they can grab the cage seems like a wash to me. I both like and dislike things about either approach.

One thing I really can't stand in Pride is the ring/ropes. Every time the fighters get near them a dozen people start grabbing at the fighters and pushing them away from the ropes. To me that's like allowing people on the sidelines of a basketball game to grab the players if they get close enough. Resetting the match in the middle of the ring doesn't make me any happier.

Yes, it's frustrating to see people get trapped against the cage in UFC sometimes, but the octagon is pretty damn big. You probably fucked up pretty badly to get yourself stuck there.

Also, remember that the UFC doesn't make the rules, the SACs do. UFC has been campaigning for rules changes for at least a few years now.

>> ^Seric:

>> ^ToKeyMonsTeR:
>> ^Seric:
I neither found the video entertaining or your arguments sufficiently valid.
Downvote.

I don't find your argument to be sufficiently valid.

I don't find your FACE sufficiently valid!
ahem
sorry Torquay, I didn't mean that...what I meant to say was:
Well Door Key, thank god we have a democratic style system here whereby voting determines the success of a video rather than the ideas of an individual.
Thoughts can be freely exchanged whilst being moderated by an overall majority, that way everyone can agree or disagree with an argument (or in this case, statement T__T ) without (again, in this case) affecting the majority vote of a video.
What I'm trying to say Palm Tree, is that a voting system allows me to have an opinion - and if that opinion is attempted to be quashed by a nonsensical one-liner. I will write a long, useless and utterly pointless post in response.


What I like about the "democratic" system here is the ability to *quality this as I see fit, maybe even shoot it a promote when I get another power point. Each side has valid arguments, and I'll tend to agree with both sides (interestingly enough).

The only problem I have is with the following argument:
Please don't attempt to legitimize this by arguing that these people voluntarily engage in this kind of activity. If they do so, it's because are afflicted by a lack of empathy along with foolish pride, recklessness and sadism.

How can you not legitimize what they do because they do it voluntarily? They absolutely know the risks of stepping in that ring, and do so willingly. I just wanted to make it clear that these guys know exactly what they're getting into. Why they do it, is for their own reasons, not for YOU to decide, but for them. (I wouldn't call them sadists, I have a friend who fights MMA and is certainly not one.)

>> ^NordlichReiter:

The part where the guy got body slammed?
He never took a judo class. If you are about to get picked up, you release the grip of your legs this way the guy picking you up has all your weight.
He basically assisted in his own body slam, buy holding on.


The problem with your theory is that you're not fighting Rampage. The strength and speed with which Rampage slammed Arona gives you very little time to react and untangle your legs from the triangle.

^GenjiKilpatrick:

@<a rel="nofollow" href="http://videosift.com/member/LarsaruS" title="member since December 27th, 2009" class="profilelink">LarsaruS
So you don't like the ufc.. because you can't paralyze people? ..?!?!?
It's supposed to be sport fighting. Not televised manslaughter.
There are rules in place to protect people's lives and careers.
Perfect example. Mark Coleman Vs. Allan Goes at min 1:55
Throwing knees to Goes' head while he's already in a choke on the ground.
Goes' brain is starved of oxygen while it's being bounced around his skull.
His neck is cranked and being compressed even more with each blow.
Goes was knocked out thankfully. If not:
1- His skull would've been busted open
2- His neck would've been snapped



Coleman was not choking or neckcranking Goes. It is physically impossible for you to effectively choke someone close to your body and land knees at the same time, especially since a large portion of the power in a knee strike comes from your core. Knee strikes from this position should be perfectly legal, to reduce the amount of stalling and stalemates that you frequently see in the UFC. What the ufc has done is neutralize what was previously an extremely disadvantageous position for guy on the bottom.

>> ^ToKeyMonsTeR:

>> ^Seric:
I neither found the video entertaining or your arguments sufficiently valid.
Downvote.

I don't find your argument to be sufficiently valid.


I don't find your FACE sufficiently valid!

*ahem*

sorry Torquay, I didn't mean that...what I meant to say was:

Well Door Key, thank god we have a democratic style system here whereby voting determines the success of a video rather than the ideas of an individual.

Thoughts can be freely exchanged whilst being moderated by an overall majority, that way everyone can agree or disagree with an argument (or in this case, statement T__T ) without (again, in this case) affecting the majority vote of a video.

What I'm trying to say Palm Tree, is that a voting system allows me to have an opinion - and if that opinion is attempted to be quashed by a nonsensical one-liner. I will write a long, useless and utterly pointless post in response.

>> ^Seric:

I neither found the video entertaining or your arguments sufficiently valid.
Downvote.


I don't find your argument to be sufficiently valid.

@GenjiKilpatrick No I don't like the UFC because they have so many rules which benefits ground fighters. As I stated. Please don't put words in my mouth. If I disliked them because I felt that people should be allowed to paralyse each other I would have written that, as in "I don't like the UFC because they don't allow fighters to paralyse each other.", I did not. (Well, until I wrote that example.)

Although the fights would be a lot shorter if they did (People doing the guillotine would go for snap and not tap.)

Also broken bones happen from time to time when you fight whether it is allowed or not. The latest I can recall is the fight between Lidell and Franklin where a standing kick broke Franklin's arm but he kept on fighting anyway. Another example would be a former club mate (not former due to events described here) of mine who broke his arm in the first round of a WTF Taekwondo fight from blocking a kick and he fought the rest of the match with a broken arm.

@ghark Nope, no trolls here. I even checked under the sofa

@ToKeyMonsTeR Thank you. The problem is that MMA has become a style so every single fighter fights exactly the same way, using the same 10 techniques that everybody else does. This goes against the intent of MMA (Mixed Martial Arts) IMO as no one is mixing anything anymore. Heck there are gyms who teach the style MMA which is ridiculous.

@Ryjkyj Thanks and see comment to ToKeyMonsTer

@Contrarian http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-ownership either you agree to it or you don't.

@rottenseed Thanks for the link! It was an interesting read and he makes some valid points in there.

To all a good night/morning/midday/whatever it might be at your location!