"Lone, mentally-ill vermin". With deference to @bareboards2, I'll quote Stephen Budianski:

"For as long as I can remember, I have heard conservatives blaming everything that is wrong in the universe, from violent crime to declining test scores to teen pregnancy to rude children to declining patriotism to probably athlete's foot... upon Dr. Spock, Hollywood liberals, the abolition of prayer in school, Bill Clinton, the "liberal 1960s," the teaching of evolution — in other words, upon symbols, rhetoric, cultural norms, and the values expressed by political and media leaders. Yet from the moment when someone gets a gun in their hands, apparently, society ceases to have any influence whatsoever on the outcome and individual responsibility takes hold 100%. Something is driving the tripling of death threats against congressmen (and the concomitant rise in threats against Federal judges and other villains of the right, from Forest Service rangers to climate scientists) and it isn't the sunspot cycle."

http://budiansky.blogspot.com/2011/01/not-us-cont.html

>> ^deathcow:

Spock has never gone into heat again on any episodes or movies, what gives?


Actually, not true.

In Star Trek 3: the search for spock, when he was going through his enhanced growth, when he hit his teens he DID go back into the Pon'Farr, Savik calmed him down, but we don't know how many times that happened on the planets surface because of its altered timeline.

For all we know, just before Kirk beamed down to the planets surface, he was going through it again and for the rest of the movies he had it out of his system.


...and with that, I'm going to go outside and do something not extremely nerdy now.

>> ^deathcow:

Spock has never gone into heat again on any episodes or movies, what gives?


Perhaps Spock finally read his contract: "Vacation? What is this strange huma-- holy shit!"

>> ^deathcow:

Spock has never gone into heat again on any episodes or movies, what gives?

Because it takes 7 years to go into heat again and they were only on a 5 year mission.
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Spock has never gone into heat again on any episodes or movies, what gives?

>> ^Xaielao:

>> ^Ariane:
Yeah, Star Wars is over. J.J. Abrams made Star Trek cool again.

Ah you must not have gotten the memo.
Abram's Star Trek was fucking terrible! The dude that played Kirk couldn't act for his life. And Spock was an emo brat.

.. and Yatzee there were a lot of great Star Wars games but because you got into gaming like 6 years ago you missed almost all of them.


I don't think anyone got that memo. But that's because I'm pretty sure that memo was only circulated at the offices of Douchebag, Douchebag and Contrarian.

>> ^Ariane:

Yeah, Star Wars is over. J.J. Abrams made Star Trek cool again.


Ah you must not have gotten the memo.

Abram's Star Trek was fucking terrible! The dude that played Kirk couldn't act for his life. And Spock was an emo brat.



.. and Yatzee there were a lot of great Star Wars games but because you got into gaming like 6 years ago you missed almost all of them.

@kasinator

Replicating weapons is not a theory. In fact, all weapons and ship are replicated except for those parts that use materials that can't be replicated (like latinum). Of course, normally there are safety lockouts that prevent you from replicating weapons, plus you would need a replication pattern.

But anyway, my point concerning the Prime Directive was that, as a Vulcan precept it is not primarily concerned with morality per se. When Spock tells Kirk that his holodeck solution is logical, he is not saying in any way that it is a "good" or "bad" solution. Spock doesn't take morality into consideration, only logic. Thus, while Kirk's solution is "logical" in light of the moral dilemma he faces (that he created for himself) it is not a situation that Spock would get himself into because Spock would not have deliberated on whether or not he must try to save the natives in the first place. And it's not like Spock doesn't have emotions. Even pure-blood Vulcans have emotions, they just shove them aside most of the time. To a Vulcan, acting on emotions invites chaos sooner or later and chaos is inherently unpredictable. Instead of trying to predict the unpredictable and play god, you decide not to interfere.

But then we kind of see the reverse with the Q for a while. They are so high-up in the food chain that they do not consider their interventions as disruptive any more than we consider our destroying of an ant colony disruptive. After all, ants as a whole will adapt and survive in one way or another. But still, even they must admit that they cannot predict what will happen to their own continuum and so they realize they can't stop themselves from evolving without losing what made them Q in the first place. Their "Prime Directive" of not artificially ascending lower lifeforms (except Riker for a while) into Q stems mostly from apathy towards non-Q things but also from self-preservation, as they cannot predict what would happen if non-evolved Q arrived en masse. Thus the same could be said of the Federation's Prime Directive, even if the self-preservation aspect is unavowed.

Alan Alda was the second man I ever fell in love with. I say Alan Alda, and this was progress, because the first man I fell in love with was Spock (and not Leonard Nimoy).

>> ^mgittle:

This is like...the frat guy's idea of what would make starcraft funny...if any of you watched the Plinkett review of Star Trek, it's like they're going through the list of what people know about SC purely by osmosis.
Might as well have just been: Oh no, Scotty! You beamed up a Zerg rush instead of Spock! Now we're infested!
Lame...sorry. Collegehumor has hilarious crap sometimes, but I can't vote for this one =x


Well, that's like your opinion, man.

This is like...the frat guy's idea of what would make starcraft funny...if any of you watched the Plinkett review of Star Trek, it's like they're going through the list of what people know about SC purely by osmosis.

Might as well have just been: Oh no, Scotty! You beamed up a Zerg rush instead of Spock! Now we're infested!

Lame...sorry. Collegehumor has hilarious crap sometimes, but I can't vote for this one =x

So... On the Bill-O/Bale richter scale, the magnitude of Shat's hissyfit was about a 0.2? Hell, I bet Nimoy's Spock had a bad day resulting in an off-camera "unprofessional moment" amounting to more than that at least once in his tenure on Trek.

I kinda thought this was going to be an Epic Beard Man meme, Spock was bringing da ambalamps

>> ^schmawy:

Ant, that was a truly terrible video. I hate to do it but I'm going to downvote it.

>> ^Payback:

Actually, weight doesn't have anything to do with it. It's mass. In that, Spock is still wrong, but so are you.


http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/mass.html
Weight is the effect of gravity on an object based on its mass. The black hole is a nearby source of gravity, so the amount of mass on the ship will make it heavier. Just like it takes all the huge boosters on our space shuttles when leaving Earth's gravitational field, but only the small lander's power when leaving the moon.

So I'm correct!