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Conservative Christian mom attempts to disprove evolution

ChaosEngine says...

In my study of the evidence from the fossil record, I found more evidence that contradicted the assertions of Darwinian evolution than confirmed it.
Please enlighten me as to your credentials as a paleontologist. I assume you must have some, given that you feel qualified that your expertise is such as to dismiss millions of man hours of experimental results that support the theory of evolution.

In fact, you should really publish your findings in a peer-reviewed journal. If they are correct (and not, as I suspect, complete bollocks), it will be a revelation! There's almost certainly a Nobel prize in it for you.

The evidence for micro evolution is overwhelming.
Sweet. You've accepted the evidence for evolution. "Macroevolution" is just lots of "microevolution". Why are we discussing this?

I purport to say that the idea of a Creator has better explanatory power for what we see than the current scientific theories for origins, not because of what science cannot explain, but for what science has explained.
You've abandoned science at this point. I could equally say that speciation is caused by invisible pink unicorns or the Flying Spaghetti Monster (praise his noodly appendages), but none of it is testable and therefore, it's non-scientific.

Besides, the existing theory explains everything pretty well.

Have you ever studied the scientific proofs for both sides? There are some "clocks" which point that way, and there are other clocks that point the other way. The clocks that point to the old Earth have many flaws, and there are simply more evidences that point to a young Earth.
That is quite simply untrue. It is lies, falsehood, fiction, fabrication, myth, deceit, distortion and misinformation. In short, it's bullshit.

There is no credible evidence for a young earth. Zero, zip, nada.

At this point, you would have to either monumentally stupid or willfully ignorant to believe in it.

shinyblurry said:

lots of nonsense

Experience and wisdom will get you every time

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Kangaroo eating a penguin on the beach

chicchorea says...

I have fed several species of deer, meat, to their apparent relish. Cooked, Mostly in Texas.

Spaghetti meat sauce and chili was very popular with them too.

...fallow deer, axis deer, mule deer, and whitetail deer. No fangs though.

Even Pat Robertson Attacks Young Earth Theory As A "Joke"

RFlagg says...

The issue then becomes, if we start accepting scientific facts like the big bang and evolution, that moves stories like Adam and Eve, the flood, tower of babel and the like become parables. Which I am fine with, I was fine with that when I was a Christian as that is the most likely scenario, the problem is where do we draw the line at what is parable and what is literal? Why did the creator of the universe make himself known to only one tiny tribe of people in a backwater part of the world some 6,000 years ago, and not to all of humanity around the world, why not have prophets all over? It is either a local deity, like Odin,Athena, Ra and the like, or a racist jerk.

No science will never probably answer what was there before the big bang, time itself didn't exist... That is perhaps the only valid "gap" for a god to fill. We understand how the universe came to be in its present state fairly well, with a few odd issues like dark matter/dark energy to be resolved but those are filling in. Abiogenesis is early enough in the its understanding of life origins to be a small gap, but that is filling, and the process of biological evolution is fully understood and well mapped out.

In the end the problem is that there seems to be no god actively moving on the universe or people's lives. We don't see properly documented limbs growing without science. We don't see a consistent result from praying to only the Christian God compared to praying to some Hinu god to get results (praying itself is slightly better than not, but it doesn't matter to whom is prayed, praying to the flying spaghetti monster is just as effective as praying to Yahweh or Kali). If there is a God, then he is ineffective, and that in the end is a problem for religion... and ultimately what is the point of worshiping a god that only wants people to praise and worship him while giving us nothing in return? Wohoo I believed in God (Yahweh) and now get to spend eternity praising and worshipping him full time with no distractions like work and having fun with the family...basically I get to do the same thing the angels do (and they apparently have a choice in the matter since 1/3rd of them followed Lucifer in praising him over Yahweh)... what's the point of that? To avoid the hell he created for those who chose not to end up being his praise slave 24/7 for eternity? Let me see evidence, let me see him do something for me in my life here and now, then I'll believe.

Picking up a Hammer on the Moon

Picking up a Hammer on the Moon

Chairman_woo says...

That's not what I was saying at all though perhaps I explained poorly.

So imagine you are in a 0 gravity environment. You have 2 balls (lol) one has a mass of 1 kg the other a mass of 100kg. You throw both equally hard. What happens?

One ball travels away from you at 100x less the velocity of the other. This is intertia, it is an effect of mass not gravity. Gravity is an additional force but it's absence would not change the fact that a big heavy space suit requires a significant force to move at a usefully velocity in the 1st place.

It was perhaps misleading to use the example of a fulcrum (lever) but in this context it's quite illustrative. If it was 0 gravity you could apply a tiny force to a massive object and just wait however long it takes to get it where you want (like an infinitely long lever). When gravity becomes a factor duration becomes more and more of a concern (like the fulcrum of the lever gets shorter and shorter).

Concequence: the lower the gravity the easier (less work/deltaV) it is to move an object. However a massive object still requires a proportional large force to move in a useful way (in this case fast enough to overcome 0.16g for long enough to get upright).

I'm not saying gravity has no effect (quite the opposite) I'm saying big heavy thing requires big heavy force to shift even in reduced gravity environments.


As for bases on the moon, mars, stargates, ueo's, void whales, phobos being hollow (phobos is some crazy shit), hexagon on Saturn etc. Etc. I'm not outright dismissive, but to treat it as anything but food for thought/entertainment is a little worrying to say the least. What do you have to go on there other than the testimony of other people who claim to have been involved or whatever?

There's no hard data avaliable to the likes of you and I on such things. Many of these ideas cannot be entirely refuted, but nor can they be confirmed either. That puts us squarely in the realm of superstition and religion.

I'm a part time discordian/khaos magus/git wizard so I do have more time than most for superstition and flights of fantasy but I steer well clear of treating any of that kind of think as objective fact.

The realms of materialism and idealism should stay entirely separate except when they converge and compliment each other e.g. If I can imagine a black swan and then go out and find one (after performing the necessary experiments to disprove any other possible explanations for why it might seem black) then I can tell others that black swans are definitely a real thing. The same cannot be said for say the flying spaghetti monster or the chocolate tea pot orbiting the sun even though believing in such things makes my life more interesting under certain circumstances (and such liberated thought processes can eventually lead to as yet undiscovered ideas which may indeed prove to be "true" or helpful).

"Given all theories of the universe are absurd, it is better to speak in the language of one which Is patently absurd so as to mortify the metaphysical man." -Alaistair Crowley

Translation: if your going to indulge stuff like this don't take it or yourself too seriously or you will go mental!

Praise be to pope Bob!
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MichaelL said:

So you're saying on Jupiter or any other super-giant planet, we should have no problem walking about, lifting the usual things such as hammers, etc with no problem because the mass is the same as Earth?
Hmm, didn't think gravity worked like that. I always read in text books that on the moon, you should be able to jump higher because gravity was less than earth... but you say no.
Damn scientists always trying to confuse us...
(Pssst... weight and mass are different things. Weight measures gravitational force... the force that you have to overcome to lift something... less gravity = less force to overcome)

As for the conspiracy thing... you do know we already have bases on the dark side of the moon and Mars right? Look up Alternative 3...

Molten Lava Melts A Can of Chef-Boyardee

chingalera says...

What's real sad is is that those meatball-like spheres in Spaghetti-O's are like little edible crack rocks swimming in nasty tomato sauce. Wish they'd sell cans of only their mystery meatball-like units and place them on the shelf right next to Vienna Sausages

brycewi19 said:

Betcha this wouldn't happen to the far superior Spaghetti-O's.

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Procrastinatron (Member Profile)

pumkinandstorm says...

Your power is still out after all this time?? Forget what I said yesterday about it being fun...finding your way around by candlelight would get really annoying after a couple of hours.

My pleasure!! I thought it would speak to your inner attention whore. It is nice to be able to personalize your profile and stand out a bit. Haha, yeah, I can relate to the "invalid" color selections, and did you notice that they look a lot different when choosing them than how they display on your profile? It takes a bit to get the colors just right. Most of all though, I was hoping it would entice you to post more videos, and now that I have your oath, you can't back down. By the way, did you know that you can currently post 6 videos at a time? You can rule the sift with all those slots.

You didn't post that Aubrey Plaza one!!! What were you thinking?? If in doubt, post it. That's my motto. You can always *kill or *discard it later if it doesn't seem popular or if you change your mind about it.

Flying Spaghetti Monster! Ha! I was leaning towards that one. I was almost even thinking about betting those 2 shillings you gave me on that guess, but in case I was wrong, I didn't want to part with them. But do I really want to be touched by his noodly appendages? Hmmm...

Awwwwwww mannnnnnn, this video is blocked in Canada too!! This is one of the most awesome songs of all time though and I even have this one already so all I need to do is *add to playlist*. Queen is one of my all-time favorite bands and Bohemian Rhapsody is my favorite of their songs. I also really like "We Will Rock You", "Under Pressure" and "Somebody to Love". I'm on youtube now listening to all 4 of those Queen songs.

Seeing as I'm listening to them...I might as well attach them and spam your pretty profile page.






Procrastinatron said:

Well, I am really happy that you thought I was worthy of a gift this kick-ass, I am more thankful than you could know, and as soon as I get my power back I will unleash a torrent of videos the likes of which this site has seldom seen.

SUCH IS MY OATH AND MY OATHS ARE ABSOLUTE.

Also, y'know that Aubrey Plaza video? I actually saw that earlier this week and though about sifting it, but then decided otherwise... so yeah, that's another thing to make up for.

Oh, and this charter membership is sort of AWESOME. It's nice to be able to tailor your profile and name and, once I finally find a colour that the system doesn't just scream "INVALID" at, your comment background to your wishes.

Again, THANKS!!!

YOU'RE AWESOME

VIDEOSIFT IS AWESOME

WE'RE ALL FREAKING AWESOME



Oh, and FSM does indeed stand for Flying Spaghetti Monster.

May His noodly appendages touch us and anoint us in His sacred marinara sauce, that we may thus be remade in His glorious image.

Procrastinatron (Member Profile)

pumkinandstorm says...

Wow, it feels different around here. Yes, I got you the charter membership so you could pretty the place up and you succeeded in doing so!!!! It looks awesome...I really love the colors you chose...AND I'm so glad you finally have an avatar picture...it was time to stop procrastinating and post one already. It suits you.

Glad your headache is gone. I only get them when I spend long periods of time staring at a computer screen or when I'm dehydrated. It wouldn't surprise me if staring at a computer screen is what gave you that headache since it seemed like you were on here all day.

I don't mind so much when the power goes out (as long as it doesn't last too long)...it's fun to have to use candles and find something to do that doesn't require electricity for a change. At least you have an iphone and a connection to the internet. You're not totally cut off!

Ok, I have to ask....I'm assuming FSM is internet slang for something, but I have no idea what...and I even googled it to try to figure it out....I got "flying spaghetti monster", "female seeking male", among other things. What does it mean?

Procrastinatron said:

Yeah, the headache passed all right. Thank Jebus for that, because it was one of the worst I've ever had!

Another bit of bad luck, however, is that I currently don't have any electricity, so I'm stuck with my iPhone and feeling both dejected and hamstrung.

But this, too, shall pass.

And about the Cannabis vid, I honestly sort of expected it.

I mean, most people don't exactly come to VS for entire documentaries.

Oh, and... I just received charter membership. Was that you?

If so...

OH MY FREAKING FSM THAT'S AWESOME THANK YOU!!!

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Drax says...

I had faith in the Spaghetti once, but then the big G found that it was frozen, store bought. Not fresh and handmade like was told by the spiteful one.



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