Ummm, no.

Hillary Clinton said she would continue her primary campaign because you never know, and gave RFK's assassination as an historical example of someone who appeared to have the nomination well in hand, and then suddenly didn't. She CLEARLY wasn't telling anyone to go assassinate Obama, nor implying it.

The only valid defense of this Trump clip is he was talking about the people can use their guns to stop their guns from being taken away, which at best is inciting violence against the government. The worst part is he's telling hardcore gun right advocates they could do this against the odds on favorite next president of the US for a policy she doesn't even support.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/may/11/donald-trump/donald-trump-falsely-claims-hillary-clinton-wants-/

There is no equivalency between Hillary Clinton's remark and this Donald Trump clip at all, just like even if you don't like Hillary Clinton at all, equating Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton as candidates is also ridiculous.

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"This can probably be attributed to better firearms training, safety and general awareness."

I have nothing against safety training, of course. And sure, Its even a good thing to be familiar with weapons, if nothing else but to see how dangerous they are. But I'm also favouring gun control. When the ATF can't even say its illegal to sell guns to DRUNK people, I think its been heading in the wrong direction for quite some time. Its fine if you own a gun, but then you should also know how to handle one safely, and be deemed reasonably fit to own a gun. You should be required to store it safely, and so on. There's a lot of things you can do without "taking your weapons".

"BTW - I envy the firearms that you've gotten to fire."

Yeah, this was in the army, I havent touched a gun since., but shooting rockets from the shoulder with the Carl Gustav is pretty fun.(I called it M84 in my previous post, we called it RFK in the army) Also the MG3 because its such a classic (its basically an MG42) And the A3G3 is one mean-ass assault-rifle(I think we calculated that we shot 15000 or was it 30k? rounds each (in my platoon) with that gun during that year.)

"This is particularly the case as more innocents are slaughtered and additional billions of dollars are spent on a fraudulent "war on terror" perpetuated under any other name."

Sorry but I must stop you there. The Iraq War was going to happen whether or not they came up with this so why risk such a dangerous act? The "War on Terror" is a redeclaration of the old "War on Terror" in the 80's by Reagan. Also there was a "War of Terror" declared by JFK and perpetrated by RFK. Look this is what the US does, makes no sense to bother with these false flag operations. If this was ever discovered the republican party would cease to exist in the US, why risk all that when you can just start the war anyways. It was a good opportunity that was seized, not an opportunity that had to be created.

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I think this is a dupe of http://www.videosift.com/video/Olbermann-comment-on-Hillarys-RFK-statement, which died btw.

>> ^doremifa:
He skirts from comical to angry and I have had a difficult time taking this guy seriously when he intends to be.

I'm a fan of Olbermann's, but I have to agree that the massive shifts in tone during his show seem jarring. One minute he's joking around, the next he's serious as a heart attack. They used to always have celebrity news in the hour, and that was so incongruous with the rest of the show that it just came across as being distasteful, and I'm glad they've finally dropped that entirely.

I also have to say I was a bit puzzled how Olbermann would turn a sub-30 second soundbite into an 11-minute special comment. Something about this really got him angry -- I've watched most of his special comments, and I'd swear he was more angry in this one than he'd ever been before.

As someone who's watched the show for a long time, I'll also say that I'm pretty sure Olbermann started the primary season as a big fan of Hillary Clinton. I can tell you exactly when that changed: when she teared up before the New Hampshire primary, and then immediately launched into an attack on Obama.

Starting from that very episode, he stopped being mostly neutral in the primary, to being very heavily anti-Clinton, and when Edwards dropped out just a couple weeks later, very pro-Obama.

I think he's pissed because he's looked up to the Clintons since the 90's, and they are disappointing him in massive fashion by taking up the Karl Rove and George Bush type of politics that his whole show is dedicated to highlighting and debunking.

It's also because these sorts of things damage the party as a whole, and given what's at stake in this election, and given how little chance she has of winning, he's shocked at the megalomania of Hillary still fighting, and fighting dirty.

If it weren't for the other instances of her using this construction as an argument for her to stay in the race, and for the fact that Bill Clinton had the nomination locked up in April, not June, I would've said "what's the big deal?" myself. Instead all that shows that she really did intend to raise the specter of assassination, her only gaffe was that she used the harsher wording, still including the word "assassinated."

She's got everything to apologize for. It wasn't about RFK or RFK Jr, it was about Obama and used as an excuse to stay in the race. For a little context on why browse this.

http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2008/02/20/racist-attacks-on-obama-growing-more-heated/

She started the statement off with the argument that this wasn't a long primary. The primary she tried to compare this one to didn't even start until well into March, this one started in the first days of January. The equivalent length for the 1968 RFK one would have taken it into mid August at least, not June. She was trying to say this wasn't a long one by a dishonest comparison to start with then she added the assassination thing into it, topped a lie with that.

She's been in politics long enough and race has been a big enough issue that she's well aware of the history of black leaders when they get too successful, of the fact that Obama got Secret Service protection early in response to already getting death threats, and she's no doubt aware that the threat hasn't dissipated in the slightest as he gets closer to a win. Look at all the concerns we've seen here over time, she's not blind to it either and she knew exactly what she was doing.

It was at best a stupid and callous thing to say and at worst a dog whistle to the supers and others, don't invest too much in this man because he may not be here too long. It wasn't a wish, that much I do believe, just a stupid move from a politician who should have known better and who still owes Obama, his family, and his supporters an apology for it.

Sorry Eric, this one's been through before:
http://politics.videosift.com/video/Olbermann-comment-on-Hillarys-RFK-statement

I had trouble finding it, actually... The Sift search didn't seem to list it.

>> ^jwray:
Olbermann is being ridiculous. Those remarks were not even remotely offensive.


To the general populace (i.e. you and me), it comes off as the unintended screwup, but to people who are entrenched in government, it comes off as a very calculated comment. Don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating that one ought to swallow everything that people "in the know" feed us on the news streams, but nor should one disregard expert (and I use that word hesitantly) testimony.

I think it's a brilliant piece of work by Clinton. I'm sure she knows what she's saying and doing, having been in politics for so long. Knowing that, you can't ignore her statement as just an unintended screwup. That's what it boils down to.

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Wonder no longer!

http://www.videosift.com/video/Olbermann-comment-on-Hillarys-RFK-statement

Dupe: http://politics.videosift.com/video/RFK-Assasination-Is-Hillarys-Rational-Staying-In-The-Race

>> ^NetRunner:
I think when Obama hits the magic number (what that number is between 2025 and 2210 will be decided on the 31st), she'll gracefully step aside, and start helping unify the party.
I don't think there's a consolation prize that could buy her off before that. I think afterwards, she's willing to let the chips fall where they may. She wanted to be President, and she'll likely be too old (69) to run again in 2016, especially since she'd have to defeat Obama's VP for the nomination.


I wish I could agree but I don't think there's any "gracefully step aside" in her. She's jumped on Wright and Ayers like a repub would ignoring her own ties to Wright when he twice visited the White House at their invitation and to Ayers group when her husband released two members of the same group from prison. She has offered to "obliterate" Iran in spite of our own intelligence agencies telling us that if they had a weapons program (and we're not even sure of that) they seem to have ended it. She has been trying since the start to convince voters that both Obama and the party are trying to disenfranchise voters when about 1/3 of the people who actually DID it are to be found in her campaign staff, not his. She more recently shifted to being the "white power" candidate, and last I saw she capped that all off with the very recent suggestion that she'd better stay in because as we all should know RFK was assassinated in California in June.

Now her path to the White House seems to run through another persons grave, and she thinks that's ok to use as an excuse to stay in? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vyFqmp4wzI

I regret any defense I've ever made for either of them, this campaign has put everything through the years in question and hurt them more than they realize. Before we could hope or assume that the bad parts were just blindness on their part and they didn't know better. But in light of new knowledge on how far they'll go if they see an advantage to themselves all of that needs to be reevaluated too. Maybe their critics were more right than we realized all those years. It's either that or too much time swimming in the sewers with that stuff made them forget what was wrong with it, just as an abused kid often becomes an abuser themselves. For whatever reasons though there seems to be little of honor, fairness, clean play or grace left in them.

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