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Explosion of natural gas tanker in China

chingalera says...

>> ^doogle:

Wrong Asian country, ignoramus.
When China takes over, they'll make sure you know that.
Or not. They may just sing you Bee Gees music because AMERICA, FUCK YA!
>> ^BoneRemake:
gungnam style !
heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

sexyyyyyyy laaaaaaaaaaadyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy



Heaven forbid we confuse cultures! This moment of political incorrectness was smugly brought to your attention by someone better than you!!

Explosion of natural gas tanker in China

bcglorf jokingly says...

To be fair though, Britain and Australia were originally founded as colonies of the American empire, so the distinction is blurred.

>> ^aaronfr:

And we've just seen the rare double fail.
Bee Gees are British or Australian depending on how you wanna look at it.
>> ^doogle:
Wrong Asian country, ignoramus.
When China takes over, they'll make sure you know that.
Or not. They may just sing you Bee Gees music because AMERICA, FUCK YA!
>> ^BoneRemake:
gungnam style !
heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
sexyyyyyyy laaaaaaaaaaadyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy



Explosion of natural gas tanker in China

aaronfr says...

And we've just seen the rare double fail.

Bee Gees are British or Australian depending on how you wanna look at it.
>> ^doogle:

Wrong Asian country, ignoramus.
When China takes over, they'll make sure you know that.
Or not. They may just sing you Bee Gees music because AMERICA, FUCK YA!
>> ^BoneRemake:
gungnam style !
heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

sexyyyyyyy laaaaaaaaaaadyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy


Explosion of natural gas tanker in China

doogle says...

Wrong Asian country, ignoramus.
When China takes over, they'll make sure you know that.

Or not. They may just sing you Bee Gees music because AMERICA, FUCK YA!
>> ^BoneRemake:

gungnam style !

heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy


sexyyyyyyy laaaaaaaaaaadyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

Explosion of natural gas tanker in China

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Explosion of natural gas tanker in China

Yogi says...

>> ^probie:

First thing they teach you in haz-mat first responders courses is if you ever see a tanker on fire, RUN. And keep running. You may be out of range of the BLEVE but the shrapnel can kill you too.


I think it's best to face the danger, so that you can dodge it matrix style!

Audi's electric R8 e-tron tears up Nürburgring in silence

bcglorf says...

>> ^PancakeMaster:

So the land development, building and fueling/mining of a nuclear power plant is free of emissions? What about waste disposal and decommissioning? Bremnet speaks the truth, albeit in a markedly sarcastic way. Car emissions come from energy production. Electric cars simply have their energy production out-sourced. Things become interesting at a local level with electric transport because you can potentially choose how your energy is produced. But you'd better believe that coal and oil is still powering all things electric in the majority of households, including recharging batteries.
I am a huge proponent of nuclear power, though I really wish LFTR's would come into production especially considering it's organic safety features and relative fuel abundance.
Since we're on the subject of electric cars, don't forget that the production of batteries and electric motors is very expensive. I'm not necessarily talking about monetary costs, but rather cost in resources and energy. Again, I support the development and usage of electric vehicles but dare not ignore their true cost.
>It seems the only answer that comes up is carbon credits and absolute emission limits.
You have so much more power to control your resource usage than the government. Don't rely on them for a solution. You can choose what you eat (agriculture is a huge resource spender), how you travel (walk or take public transport), what and why you buy (industry is another big spender), and your home resource usage. Don't pass the buck and blindly empower the government when it's our responsibility.
Now if only the planet was run on pancake power. Then, surely, I would be the true master of Earth.
edit
BTW, great video and awesome car. Would love to give it a go (as with all Audi Rx cars
>> ^bcglorf:
Well, nuclear is there to make electricity and vehicles emission free. If the greens hadn't worked so hard to ensure that nuclear power was stopped the 41% for electricity and whatever chunk of transportation is vehicles would all be gone.
But fine, is you wanna be sarcastic how about you chime in with a better solution. You hear plenty of chicken little's running around crying it's time to panic. You hear plenty of talk about reducing our emissions. You don't hear nearly so much about how to do that. It seems the only answer that comes up is carbon credits and absolute emission limits. Without nuclear power for electricity production and switching large parts of transportation over to electricity, what is left? Are we just to stop using transportation and electricity all together I suppose?
>> ^bremnet:
Yes, so true. Just look at all of the countries signing up for new nuclear power plants. Oh, and of course, those who generate their electricity today with that peskily cheaper natural gas from shale gas will likely just shut that down. Forgot to ask, how do we generate the electricity to charge our batteries? If you say anything that involves rubbing balloons in ones hair, well that's just too clever! Let's see - in 2009, 41% of global CO2 emissions were from the generation of electricity and heat, and only 23% for transport per the IEA report (that's all transport - cars, trucks, buses, seagoing vessels, trains, planes) so let's call your 30% a rounding error. By 2015, it is estimated that the total CO2 emissions from seagoing vessels will surpass that for all land based automobiles, so can we get a video of an electric cargo ship instead of this car? Pretty sure they have those, right? If we have electric vehicles, and have to generate more electricity ummm... (head explodes). Top marks for enthusiasm, but I'm afraid we're going to have to keep you back for another year to re-teach math and energy balance.




But just how much can you realistically reduce your emissions by through changed behaviour? I doubt even 50% is realistic. Now, how about getting our entire society to do the same, are people gonna voluntarily give up everything they need to drop 50%? Not a chance.

If electric cars can be improved enough to be desirable over gas, then a switch over to nuclear for electricity production can drop emissions nearly 50%. More importantly, it happens by consumers buying something new because they simply want to, and government/corporations making money off selling nuclear energy to run everyone's new cars.

Short of putting guns to peoples heads and telling them what they can and can not eat, how far they are allowed to travel in a year, and enforcing that across the globe, emissions ARE NOT going to be lowered. Electric cars and nuclear power are the only viable options out there and they are either ready now(nuclear) or will be very, very soon(electric cars).

Audi's electric R8 e-tron tears up Nürburgring in silence

PancakeMaster says...

So the land development, building and fueling/mining of a nuclear power plant is free of emissions? What about waste disposal and decommissioning? Bremnet speaks the truth, albeit in a markedly sarcastic way. Car emissions come from energy production. Electric cars simply have their energy production out-sourced. Things become interesting at a local level with electric transport because you can potentially choose how your energy is produced. But you'd better believe that coal and oil is still powering all things electric in the majority of households, including recharging batteries.

I am a huge proponent of nuclear power, though I really wish LFTR's would come into production especially considering it's organic safety features and relative fuel abundance.

Since we're on the subject of electric cars, don't forget that the production of batteries and electric motors is very expensive. I'm not necessarily talking about monetary costs, but rather cost in resources and energy. Again, I support the development and usage of electric vehicles but dare not ignore their true cost.

>It seems the only answer that comes up is carbon credits and absolute emission limits.

You have so much more power to control your resource usage than the government. Don't rely on them for a solution. You can choose what you eat (agriculture is a huge resource spender), how you travel (walk or take public transport), what and why you buy (industry is another big spender), and your home resource usage. Don't pass the buck and blindly empower the government when it's our responsibility.

Now if only the planet was run on pancake power. Then, surely, I would be the true master of Earth.

*edit*

BTW, great video and awesome car. Would love to give it a go (as with all Audi Rx cars

>> ^bcglorf:

Well, nuclear is there to make electricity and vehicles emission free. If the greens hadn't worked so hard to ensure that nuclear power was stopped the 41% for electricity and whatever chunk of transportation is vehicles would all be gone.
But fine, is you wanna be sarcastic how about you chime in with a better solution. You hear plenty of chicken little's running around crying it's time to panic. You hear plenty of talk about reducing our emissions. You don't hear nearly so much about how to do that. It seems the only answer that comes up is carbon credits and absolute emission limits. Without nuclear power for electricity production and switching large parts of transportation over to electricity, what is left? Are we just to stop using transportation and electricity all together I suppose?

>> ^bremnet:
Yes, so true. Just look at all of the countries signing up for new nuclear power plants. Oh, and of course, those who generate their electricity today with that peskily cheaper natural gas from shale gas will likely just shut that down. Forgot to ask, how do we generate the electricity to charge our batteries? If you say anything that involves rubbing balloons in ones hair, well that's just too clever! Let's see - in 2009, 41% of global CO2 emissions were from the generation of electricity and heat, and only 23% for transport per the IEA report (that's all transport - cars, trucks, buses, seagoing vessels, trains, planes) so let's call your 30% a rounding error. By 2015, it is estimated that the total CO2 emissions from seagoing vessels will surpass that for all land based automobiles, so can we get a video of an electric cargo ship instead of this car? Pretty sure they have those, right? If we have electric vehicles, and have to generate more electricity ummm... (head explodes). Top marks for enthusiasm, but I'm afraid we're going to have to keep you back for another year to re-teach math and energy balance.


Audi's electric R8 e-tron tears up Nürburgring in silence

bcglorf says...

Well, nuclear is there to make electricity and vehicles emission free. If the greens hadn't worked so hard to ensure that nuclear power was stopped the 41% for electricity and whatever chunk of transportation is vehicles would all be gone.

But fine, is you wanna be sarcastic how about you chime in with a better solution. You hear plenty of chicken little's running around crying it's time to panic. You hear plenty of talk about reducing our emissions. You don't hear nearly so much about how to do that. It seems the only answer that comes up is carbon credits and absolute emission limits. Without nuclear power for electricity production and switching large parts of transportation over to electricity, what is left? Are we just to stop using transportation and electricity all together I suppose?


>> ^bremnet:

Yes, so true. Just look at all of the countries signing up for new nuclear power plants. Oh, and of course, those who generate their electricity today with that peskily cheaper natural gas from shale gas will likely just shut that down. Forgot to ask, how do we generate the electricity to charge our batteries? If you say anything that involves rubbing balloons in ones hair, well that's just too clever! Let's see - in 2009, 41% of global CO2 emissions were from the generation of electricity and heat, and only 23% for transport per the IEA report (that's all transport - cars, trucks, buses, seagoing vessels, trains, planes) so let's call your 30% a rounding error. By 2015, it is estimated that the total CO2 emissions from seagoing vessels will surpass that for all land based automobiles, so can we get a video of an electric cargo ship instead of this car? Pretty sure they have those, right? If we have electric vehicles, and have to generate more electricity ummm... (head explodes). Top marks for enthusiasm, but I'm afraid we're going to have to keep you back for another year to re-teach math and energy balance.

Audi's electric R8 e-tron tears up Nürburgring in silence

bremnet jokingly says...

Yes, so true. Just look at all of the countries signing up for new nuclear power plants. Oh, and of course, those who generate their electricity today with that peskily cheaper natural gas from shale gas will likely just shut that down. Forgot to ask, how do we generate the electricity to charge our batteries? If you say anything that involves rubbing balloons in ones hair, well that's just too clever! Let's see - in 2009, 41% of global CO2 emissions were from the generation of electricity and heat, and only 23% for transport per the IEA report (that's all transport - cars, trucks, buses, seagoing vessels, trains, planes) so let's call your 30% a rounding error. By 2015, it is estimated that the total CO2 emissions from seagoing vessels will surpass that for all land based automobiles, so can we get a video of an electric cargo ship instead of this car? Pretty sure they have those, right? If we have electric vehicles, and have to generate more electricity ummm... (head explodes). Top marks for enthusiasm, but I'm afraid we're going to have to keep you back for another year to re-teach math and energy balance.

Camp stove generates electricity for USB charging

spawnflagger says...

>> ^bmacs27:

@spawnflagger: Less CO emissions than a white gas/fuel stove? I call BS.


Yeah, it doesn't go into detail on the measurements. Probably the claim is that "because it burns more efficiently, our stove needs less wood than these other wood-burning-stoves". But if you compared that to cooking with propane or natural gas, I'm sure the latter 2 will be much better than wood. But their target market is one where these other gasses aren't readily available.

I was looking at Thermoelectric Generators (TEGs) as a result of seeing this video. It's basically a peltier cooler in reverse.

Liquid Helium And Party Balloons

bamdrew says...

I'm not going to dive down the rabbit hole of researching this right now, but the wiki page for Helium seems to agree with me (extraction from natural gas is done,
and entertainment balloons aren't noted as a major user.

It does however note that entertainment balloons are a waste made possible by artificially low prices. These artificial low prices for helium grades probably mean many natural gas producers simply vent it away, which will change as the commodity rises in price.

>> ^deathcow:

>> ^bamdrew:
I'm very, very skeptical that party balloon use is the major user of helium gas. Sure, its "wasted" on entertainment, but there are industrial uses for large amounts of helium (MIG welding and such).

ALSO, I was under the assumption that Helium can be pulled down from natural gas production (if there is money in it).

Dunno, think about the MASSES of people with balloons. Sure someone is welding in every city, but balloons are just everywhere.

Liquid Helium And Party Balloons

deathcow says...

>> ^bamdrew:

I'm very, very skeptical that party balloon use is the major user of helium gas. Sure, its "wasted" on entertainment, but there are industrial uses for large amounts of helium (MIG welding and such).

ALSO, I was under the assumption that Helium can be pulled down from natural gas production (if there is money in it).


Dunno, think about the MASSES of people with balloons. Sure someone is welding in every city, but balloons are just everywhere.

Liquid Helium And Party Balloons

bamdrew says...

I'm very, very skeptical that party balloon use is the major user of helium gas. Sure, its "wasted" on entertainment, but there are industrial uses for large amounts of helium (MIG welding and such).


ALSO, I was under the assumption that Helium can be pulled down from natural gas production (if there is money in it).



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