You should ask Mark to join VS and we could have the debate right here. I'd be down for that.

In reply to this comment by blankfist:
Actually, one of the other guys on that link (Mark Edge) is a cohost on a podcast/radio station I listen to when I'm working. http://freetalklive.com

You should check them out so you can call in and debate them. That would be fun to listen to.

In reply to this comment by dystopianfuturetoday:
Hells yeah. Stephen Fucking Molyneux, capitalist televangelist.

In reply to this comment by blankfist:
Want to go to this?

http://www.btwcruises.com/rw/view/475

Check out the guest speakers.

Actually, one of the other guys on that link (Mark Edge) is a cohost on a podcast/radio station I listen to when I'm working. http://freetalklive.com

You should check them out so you can call in and debate them. That would be fun to listen to.

In reply to this comment by dystopianfuturetoday:
Hells yeah. Stephen Fucking Molyneux, capitalist televangelist.

In reply to this comment by blankfist:
Want to go to this?

http://www.btwcruises.com/rw/view/475

Check out the guest speakers.

Hells yeah. Stephen Fucking Molyneux, capitalist televangelist.

In reply to this comment by blankfist:
Want to go to this?

http://www.btwcruises.com/rw/view/475

Check out the guest speakers.

>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:

Come on dude, it's a joke, and a mild one at that. >> ^blankfist:
Stefan Molyneux is my favorite? I think your interpretation of me is about as accurate as The Social Network was about the events surrounding the creation of facebook.



Hence my smiley face.

Come on dude, it's a joke, and a mild one at that. >> ^blankfist:

Stefan Molyneux is my favorite? I think your interpretation of me is about as accurate as The Social Network was about the events surrounding the creation of facebook.

Stefan Molyneux is my favorite? I think your interpretation of me is about as accurate as The Social Network was about the events surrounding the creation of facebook.

I can imagine blankfist as a drug dealer.

Yeah, man, I've got some dank nugs for you this week.
Awesome, I can't wait.
It's just in the other room. Here, let me put on some libertarian videos for you to watch while I get it.
Ummm.... OK... sure, put it on.
This is Stefan Molyneux, my favorite.
So, the weed is in the other room you said?
Shhh, listen to this part... 'taxes are theft'.. that's my favorite part.
Yeah, I need to get going, I'm supposed to meet a friend for dinner.
What are you trying to say? Am I not your friend? Am I just your dealer?
No, man, no... of course you are my friend.
So, what's the problem? Let's get baked and listen to some Ron Paul speeches. It'll be epic.
Um.. OK, but I've got to get going in like 15 minutes. I'm parked at a meter.
What do you need? Quarters?

>> ^blankfist:

>> ^MarineGunrock:
Wow - I'm glad none of you are my neighbors. Apparently if you were and my house was on fire, I'd be fucked. Y'all would be too busy filming the spectacle or toasting marshmellows to even toss a bucket of water on me.
Maybe it's just the way I was raised - but I try to help in whatever way I can.

You totally want me as your neighbor. I have some great weed.

I thought you'd be interested in this video. It's a critical look at the modern Corporation and where they came from.

http://videosift.com/video/What-s-a-Corporation

Oh, and Stefan Molyneux narrates.

However you want to justify is cool. I support your decision. It is a scary thing sometimes to call into a radio show and challenge a nonviolent, non-coercive argument with an argument in favor of violence and coercion. Let me know if you ever get up the courage.

In reply to this comment by dystopianfuturetoday:
I've argued with enough evangelicals to know that rational deconstruction and empirical scrutiny are useless against religious devotion and hero worship; and that task would be even more difficult with the brevity, power imbalance and lack of depth to the talk radio format. Text debate would be better, although when I did try to initiate a dialog in the guy's chat room, I got booted almost immediately for asking tough questions. They were clearly not interested in having their beliefs questioned. >> ^blankfist:

If it's so easy to deconstruct, then what are you waiting for. 1-800-259-9231
In reply to this comment by dystopianfuturetoday:
Yeah, because it's so realistic and well thought out.
In reply to this comment by blankfist:
Yeah, I don't blame ya. I'd be too scared to do that too. It's hard to punch holes in the voluntaryist argument.
In reply to this comment by dystopianfuturetoday:
If I was going to do that, I'd want to study his show, suss out his debate techniques and get to know his stock answers so I could control the conversation without worry of rhetorical blindsides. That would take many hours which would be more productively spent masturbating. If he had a wider following, maybe.

In reply to this comment by blankfist:
So, you call into Molyneux's show yet? Also, you interested in calling into FTL? I would be very interested to hear you debate these guys.

I've argued with enough evangelicals to know that rational deconstruction and empirical scrutiny are useless against religious devotion and hero worship; and that task would be even more difficult with the brevity, power imbalance and lack of depth to the talk radio format. Text debate would be better, although when I did try to initiate a dialog in the guy's chat room, I got booted almost immediately for asking tough questions. They were clearly not interested in having their beliefs questioned. >> ^blankfist:

If it's so easy to deconstruct, then what are you waiting for. 1-800-259-9231
In reply to this comment by dystopianfuturetoday:
Yeah, because it's so realistic and well thought out.
In reply to this comment by blankfist:
Yeah, I don't blame ya. I'd be too scared to do that too. It's hard to punch holes in the voluntaryist argument.
In reply to this comment by dystopianfuturetoday:
If I was going to do that, I'd want to study his show, suss out his debate techniques and get to know his stock answers so I could control the conversation without worry of rhetorical blindsides. That would take many hours which would be more productively spent masturbating. If he had a wider following, maybe.

In reply to this comment by blankfist:
So, you call into Molyneux's show yet? Also, you interested in calling into FTL? I would be very interested to hear you debate these guys.

If it's so easy to deconstruct, then what are you waiting for. 1-800-259-9231

In reply to this comment by dystopianfuturetoday:
Yeah, because it's so realistic and well thought out.

In reply to this comment by blankfist:
Yeah, I don't blame ya. I'd be too scared to do that too. It's hard to punch holes in the voluntaryist argument.

In reply to this comment by dystopianfuturetoday:
If I was going to do that, I'd want to study his show, suss out his debate techniques and get to know his stock answers so I could control the conversation without worry of rhetorical blindsides. That would take many hours which would be more productively spent masturbating. If he had a wider following, maybe.


In reply to this comment by blankfist:
So, you call into Molyneux's show yet? Also, you interested in calling into FTL? I would be very interested to hear you debate these guys.

Yeah, because it's so realistic and well thought out.

In reply to this comment by blankfist:
Yeah, I don't blame ya. I'd be too scared to do that too. It's hard to punch holes in the voluntaryist argument.

In reply to this comment by dystopianfuturetoday:
If I was going to do that, I'd want to study his show, suss out his debate techniques and get to know his stock answers so I could control the conversation without worry of rhetorical blindsides. That would take many hours which would be more productively spent masturbating. If he had a wider following, maybe.


In reply to this comment by blankfist:
So, you call into Molyneux's show yet? Also, you interested in calling into FTL? I would be very interested to hear you debate these guys.

@Stefan Molyneux

>> ^cybrbeast:

@<a rel="nofollow" href="http://videosift.com/member/ponceleon" title="member since February 8th, 2008" class="profilelink">ponceleon
Don't forget
# Syndicate (1993) (producer)
# Theme Park (1994) (project leader/lead programmer)
# Magic Carpet (1994) (executive producer)
# Hi-Octane (1995) (executive producer)
# Dungeon Keeper (1997) (project leader/designer)
I'd say that only after he founded and became leader of Lionhead Studios he screwed everything up and only produced shit.


Ah, didn't know he was involved in some of those. All quality offerings, but I stand by my overall statement. Since Molyneux grew his gigantic fucking head, he has not made a quality game and has constantly over-promised. I'm done with him and his Miloesque bullshit.

Fable 3 was my last chance for Peter M. He fucked me with B&W, and he fucked me with the first two fables... always over-promising and under-delivering. And like an abusive relationship, I bought into the hype and let him fuck me again, but I swear this is the LAST TIME. NO MORE.

What pissed me off the most about the sudden change at the end of Fable 3 is that it was symptomatic of very bad setup and story telling. Quest after quest, I was told to do one thing, but in reality the game expected me to do something else.

The best example of this was the quest early on where the game told me that I needed to go and buy a disguise. The in game "GPS" kept leading me back to a pie making mini-game and whenever I went to the store where the disguise was, it just wasn't an option to buy... at no point in this frustrating moment did it tell me that I didn't have enough money for the disguise, or that the pie game would give me said money. Instead it just FORCED me to do the damned pie game because basically there wasn't anything else I could do.

My problem with this is that my frustration could have VERY easily been quelled by one of two things: 1. A price on the fucking disguise or 2. Just something in the quest log itself to TELL me that I didn't have the money necessary and that I needed to go off and do mini-games till I had the funds.

This was basically my experience all the way through. The game wants to fake being a sandbox when in reality it has a VERY clear path it wants you to take, sometimes absurdly so and with little logic to it.

Mind you, I was patient enough to sludge through most of the game after I caught on that I just should not expect logic or ask questions. That was until the end. Yatzee hit the nail on the head, the arbitrary nature of the way the end creeps up on you is pretty much game-breaking. The ideals situation would have been one where I was given the opportunity to KNOW that I would be required to grind out 6mil coin BEFORE the stupid 1 year timer with it's absolutely horrible good/evil choices bullshit came up.

Peter M. must be fucking Frederich Nietzsche because clearly he's gone beyond good and evil with his understanding of what those words mean. I don't think I've ever been as pissed off at a game's concept of good/evil ever.

Fuck you Molyneux. You are the M. Night Shamaylan of the gaming world. Populous was your Six Sense and you've basically shit on us ever since. I vow never to buy another one of your games. (not that he's reading this, but it just feels good to make that assertion)