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PUSSY RIOT "WHIPPED" BY COSSAKS

Jinx says...

I don't see how aforementioned state supported thugs asking them to stop singing/dancing/merrymakin/putindissing makes the subsequent beating somehow more deserved.

Is not the point of a protest to defy authority? Is it not healthy for a democracy to allow dissenters to have a voice? Remember when Ukraine "asked" protests to stop by rushing through legislation to criminalise pro-EU protests back in January? In what fantasy land do you imagine protest to be possible where if you don't stop when asked to by authorities then you can expect (and deserve!?) a beating. It's one thing to say that they should have expected that there protest might result in violence against them...its quite another to say they deserved it/had it coming.

I sympathise with them not because I think that they did not expect to meet resistance, I sympathise with them because they meet resistance and attacks for what I believe to be a perfectly legal activity. They should not have been asked to stop, they should not be expected to stop, they should not have been beaten for not stopping.

lucky760 said:

My assumption is the officers (security or otherwise) weren't just standing around clapping their hands singing Kumbaya, but issuing an order to stop.

If in actuality cessation was never demanded, then I retract all my negative statements toward the women, but I find it unlikely that the guys just snuck up on them and started whipping them without any warning.

Of course, the video starts immediately as a whip is slung, so this specific embed doesn't hint at context.

Truth be told, I've been speaking out of ignorance toward their band. I was assuming they were idiots from the US who just went to Russia to protest. Now that I see they're actually native Russians, it makes more sense. But I still think their beating could have been avoided if they'd stopped when ordered.

Again, if and only if they were never ordered to stop, and they weren't defying the authorities who were standing there with whip in hand, then I do feel for them.

Ethics during War Time

Farhad2000 says...

Why post this clip really?

I would be the last person telling combat personnel how they should be dealing with the situations they find themselves in.

I would much rather attack the higher echelon of lunatics who thought up the war in the first place.

These guys, they are just trying to make it right now. Under combat fatigue and stress, when you'd say pretty much anything about anyone because of where you are stuck in. This is how combat against non-military units is; stressful, fearful and unknown because you are always meeting resistance in the form of guerrilla tactics.

Videos like this, sure maybe the guy is a jerk whatever, but sometimes people take these videos and think it speaks for the entire US army. Just look at the effect the Rodney King tapes had on respect towards police officers all across North America.

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