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Doodling in Math Class: Snakes + Graphs

Doodling in Math Class: Snakes + Graphs

Doodling in Math Class: Snakes + Graphs

Geometry Lesson: How to Assassinate the President

LarsaruS says...

@MaxWilder
In your post you were talking in generic terms about what should and should not be allowed to be taught in school, not just in a math class. That was what I reacted against and how I answered your post. As you said "It is not appropriate to use immoral acts as the content of school lessons, no matter what the specific act may be" Using broad generalisations is a dangerous thing to do.
On to the rebuttals/clarifications:

1.1.1 Thank you and I agree.

2.1.1 No answer here?

2.2.2 In the video up top it is, I was not discussing that but rather the things you claimed in you post. As my post began: "Ok, I have a couple of issues with your post." emphasis here is on your post. Not what happened in a school lesson somewhere else.

3.1.1 Actually I believe I proved your point was faulty. You claimed that "you would not want a teacher who used an example of how much children eat daily, and how much less they would need if you drowned some of them." and then you agree that there is nothing wrong with a problem like that. Or maybe it has to do with the wording of the problem? So you might have a point here.

3.2.1 Yes, I was. All work and no play makes people go postal... Also it is true. Robots > Humans

4.1.1 Yes, they would be better in a physics class, I agree. Perhaps it is still too fresh in the memories of some so it would be a distraction but it is up to the teacher to know his/her class and what they can handle. It is not up to a mandate somewhere banning the mentioning of these events in school which I interpret is what you want based on your post.

5.1.1 I guess we have a difference of opinion there. It happens. Not only the student who had an accident can be affected by it (Damn you empathy! Damn you to hell! ) so would you send an entire school or an entire class to the counsellor? There is only so much space in one office and 24 hours in a day.

5.2.1 You have a point here, yes. If you always go off the books then your students will fail once finals/national tests happen as you will not have done anything in the topic they were supposed to be learning in. If you go off on an important discussion once in a while I don't see the harm in it. People are lazy and don't want to do stuff unless it interests them in some way and not all students love all subjects. However I said: "Learning and developing a lust for learning is the main goal of any teacher worthy of that title in my book." and I stand by it. If you can plant that seed in a student they will continue to learn new things until the day they die even if they flunk out.


Also: Thank you for the link to the yourteacher.com site. Very good stuff. And I don't see you as rude. We are having an open and public debate and are having some problems with miscommunications and misunderstandings. In a forum like this it is hard to self-correct/explain more if someone misunderstands something or if someone is not clear enough as you can't answer questions instantly. It happens.

Geometry Lesson: How to Assassinate the President

MaxWilder says...

1.1.1 You are correct, some word problems are completely generic and are simply translations of math into English. But the kind we are talking about relate math to the real world. Here is an example:



If you have never had a word problem like this, you had a really lousy education.

2.2.2 We are talking about a math class. Say it with me: MATH. Specifically, geometry. GEOMETRY. This is not the forum to discuss law, history, HBTQ rights, Native Americans, Nürnberg, Pearl Harbour, etc. Those topics are excellent for their appropriate classes, such as history and sociology, not in a math class.

3.1.1 Your example supports my point. You took an immoral topic (the deliberate murder of children), and changed into a moral topic (how much food needed to prevent starvation). You see, killing children is bad, preventing starvation is good. Easy to tell the difference, right?

3.2.1 I'm going to assume you are joking now.

4.1.1 The examples you provided are also completely inappropriate for math class. Those are not "interesting topics", they are traumatic tragedies. They would distract from the lesson rather than encouraging focus.

5.1.1 That is simply not true. A good teacher keeps the class on-topic, or nothing would get done. If a student recently suffered a trauma and was not able to focus on work, they should go to the school nurse or counselor.

5.2.1 If the students are eager to discuss a topic that can be worked into a lesson appropriate to the class, then great, run with it. If it is not appropriate to the class and the teacher runs with it, the students will start to manipulate the teacher into class discussions rather than the necessary lessons. I have seen this happen on a number of occasions, but fortunately the teacher was intelligent enough to recognize what was happening and bring the class back to the lesson.

I apologize if I seem rude, but you seem to lack the fundamental sense of appropriateness for a school lesson. Though it is certainly appropriate to discuss emotionally charged topics in history, sociology, or ethics classes, topics in math classes should be emotionally and politically neutral so that the students will stay focused on the math.

Natural Morality

rottenseed says...

hmmmmmm strong in some points weak in others. I'd like to see a revision where he doesn't claim that an overly violent species is going to have trouble maintaining a high population. It's a benefit that these animals don't die when fighting for territory, food, or to mate, because later on down the road, they may end up being the stronger one in the fight. If they were eliminated from the gene pool, altogether, that may allow for an even weaker individual to get its share of animal pussy and reproduce. I don't think natural selection has to do with large populations so much as it has to do with the survival of a population.

I was taking a math class a few years back and we did parametric graphs involving predator vs prey populations showing how that when as one was declining, the other was increasing, and at a certain point, those growth patterns would reverse. The reason I bring this up is because I'm bored at work AND because I want to point out that a healthy size of a population of a certain species is more of a balancing act than it is an effort to gain the highest number possible. So, you wouldn't want a certain predator populating so much they eat their food supply and eliminate it from their area altogether because that would be a very bad thing for the success of this species' survival. What we have are measures to ensure not every one is breeding whenever they want, they have to earn it in the case of the Mexican lizard guys. In fact, if the guy who loses this fight, can't win at all, he's of no use to the species. You could kill him and it'd make only a slight positive difference in your competition for food. But I guess nature can be fair sometimes in giving everybody a chance to get in where he fits in .

Angry Guy on Hell's Kitchen Wants to Fight Part 2

videosiftbannedme says...

"I'm not no bitch."

What did Jaime Escalante teach us all? "A negative times a negative is a positive! Again. A negative times a negative is a positive!"

Me thinks he should have focused more on his math classes, instead of taking Home Ec.

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quantumushroom says...

"A few smoke stacks"?

Yeah, those evil smokestacks, a side effect of allowing people to have energy to heat their homes and cook food and have manufactured items that save millions of hours of manual labor. Those.

Now you're just pulling shit out of your ass, yet again.

That's where poop comes from. And liberal lies.

Foolish Fungus. Schools emphasize the power of exponents in even the lowest level math class. Take one?

You're clearly a product of government schools.

Thanks for reminding me. The doc called. You need to have your vairetubes tied.

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US Switching to the Metric System?

Farhad2000 says...

If this is true, about fucking time.

I took some math classes that related to engineering and physics, we had to do all calculations in two different units and do conversions because Americans want to be different.

Outside In

rottenseed says...

>> ^sineral:
I don't know much about this particular instance, but in general seemingly esoteric math like this is useful, though sometimes the use isn't discovered until after the math problem is solved. Everything from studying how proteins fold to studying fundamental physics requires far out math like this.

That's usually the case...math is usually ahead of its practical applications.

*promote for my brain bleeding from last night's math class

Downvote Bias? (Sift Talk Post)

vairetube says...

everyone is doing well in presenting the most fair methods they can think of.

ill add this even if it's been added:

People aren't always "logged in" when they are viewing a video, or series of videos in tabs... or have time to log in, but remember a certain video and go immediately to it later. Set 'em up, knock 'em down. It's a personal style choice.

There is a variable there that I can't account for, because it is personal style... so I guess "good judgment" on the part of our "judge" before we are sentenced, and being given a chance to explain any "questions", is the most fair system, despite the inherent flaws.

see: Arrow's impossibility theorem about voting/deciding methods ... how did i remember that from math class... oh yea i just learned it cuz im 26 though i just started university, and have to sit in all the 101's.

25 Random things about me... (Blog Entry by youdiejoe)

laura says...

1. I once saved the Pink Ladies from certain squishamidge on the stage of a “Grease” production in high school by grabbing the falling scenery.
2. My wiggling fingers holding up a scenery panel were once the star of a “Grease” production in high school.
3. I have had a severed chicken foot thrown through my bedroom window by Gypsies living next door to me in Brasil.
4. I love being a mother.
5. My first car was a government auction white ‘80s-ish Ford pickup with a nice bright reflective stripe down the side which could 0-45 in two minutes.
6. I got slapped awake in math class once by a guy who bragged about having shaken the hands of each person as they boarded the Challenger before it blew up.
7. Whatever ironical force controls destiny has shown me that I am NOT going to medical school.
8. I’ve had reconstructive surgery on the left side of my face due to an unprovoked fist.
9. My exact birthday is listed on my husband’s discharge papers from the Army when he retired and I didn’t know it until a year into our marriage.
10. My husband’s ex-wife dated a guy who also dated Stevie Nicks.
11. All of the most interesting things about me are things I don’t have the guts to share on video sift.
12. I have a bright red “V” birthmark between my eyes on my forehead that turns purple when I‘m mad.
13. From second grade through 9th grade I went to school with the same 8 people in my class, 200 in the whole school K-12 and my closest friends are still them, almost 20 years later.
14. When I’m dead, you can visit me in Scottsdale, AZ any time…I will be there in a Dewar chamber, signed and done.
15. I have walked away from every material thing I owned at least three times.
16. I once assembled Nokia keypads in a factory and got to know some interesting people there.
17. I have many open opportunities to visit/do some awesome things that some people would die for, yet I prefer to stay at home.
18. My secret alternative “paths my life could have taken” includes having no ties to anyone and being a stripper.
19. I have no idea how big a size EEE shoe is, I’ve never seen one.
20. My ancestors were Vikings.
21. One of my best childhood friends was a girl who lived in a “cardboard box” down the hill from the seminary I lived in, who I used to play Barbies with.
22. I am addicted to understanding other people’s realities.
23. I will hug anyone.
24. My first conscious memory is noticing the wind.
25. I love the people on VideoSift.

Gearing Up for the GRE exams (Blog Entry by thesnipe)

raven says...

Dude, I'll totally take the vocab portion for you if in two years you take the math portion for me... because in that area I am F U C K E D. I don't think I've had a math class since 1998, and that was special 'integrated' math my school district adopted to get us less gifted mathematical people to pass the state requirements... about the only thing I learned was how to program games on my graphing calculator, and even that I don't remember much of.

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