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luxury_pie (Member Profile)

James Cameron Releases His First Ever Mariana Trench Footage

entr0py says...

About the title, this isn't the first footage from of the Challenger Deep in the Marianas Trench. The ROVs Kaikō in 1996 and Nereus in 2009 both took footage and samples. But I'm sure Cameron has the most awesome footage to date.

luxury_pie (Member Profile)

James Cameron Releases His First Ever Mariana Trench Footage

critical_d says...

@dannym3141, I upvoted your reply as I appreciated the time you took to share your thoughts. I can see how your post might be interpreted as rude or aggressive but I don't think that was your intention. If you were really trying to be a jerk then you can say your sorry my visiting my p-queue and upvoting everything.

@spoco2 did a superb job in explaining what I was trying to convey...many thanks!


>> ^dannym3141:

@spoco2 - i hope @critical_d would feel comfortable to speak to me if she/he felt like i was being rude. I do not consider how i spoke to be harsh, i was using natural language, bit of local slang perhaps, i was trying to make some decent scientific points without sounding like a beligerant dork.
I don't think i was harsh or rude? I see critical upvoted my comment, so i think it's probably ok, maybe some knowledge was shared in a positive way, spoken colloquially between two people of different ilks.....ON TEH INTERNET. And that's great.

James Cameron Releases His First Ever Mariana Trench Footage

TheSluiceGate says...

>> ^surfingyt:

Perhaps some scientists feel if they can find life on another planet the final nail in religion's coffin will be hammered?>> ^critical_d:
Odd how the scientific community seems to have more enthusiasm for exploring the oceans of Titan than our own. I read somewhere that the technological aspects of a dive like Cameron performed are as complex as a moon landing. I guess the thinking was that if something went wrong seven miles below then you are just as screwed as if you were in the Frau Mora Highlands. If the ultimate goal is to setup a colony on Mars or our own Moon, then we should practice in our own backyard first.



What? Are you kidding? Even if scientists did confirm the existence of alien life the religious will just move the goalposts in the same way they did when the world was discovered to be round, and that the earth was not the centre of the solar system, or indeed the universe.

The Vatican's "Pontifical Academy of Sciences" has even held a conference on alien life:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/space/6536400/The-Vatican-joins-the-search-for-alien-life.html

For the deeply religious no scientific proof that contradicts their religious beliefs will ever be proof enough.

James Cameron Releases His First Ever Mariana Trench Footage

surfingyt says...

Perhaps some scientists feel if they can find life on another planet the final nail in religion's coffin will be hammered?>> ^critical_d:

Odd how the scientific community seems to have more enthusiasm for exploring the oceans of Titan than our own. I read somewhere that the technological aspects of a dive like Cameron performed are as complex as a moon landing. I guess the thinking was that if something went wrong seven miles below then you are just as screwed as if you were in the Frau Mora Highlands. If the ultimate goal is to setup a colony on Mars or our own Moon, then we should practice in our own backyard first.

James Cameron Releases His First Ever Mariana Trench Footage

dannym3141 says...

>> ^critical_d:

Odd how the scientific community seems to have more enthusiasm for exploring the oceans of Titan than our own. I read somewhere that the technological aspects of a dive like Cameron performed are as complex as a moon landing. I guess the thinking was that if something went wrong seven miles below then you are just as screwed as if you were in the Frau Mora Highlands. If the ultimate goal is to setup a colony on Mars or our own Moon, then we should practice in our own backyard first.


Firstly you make the mistake of assuming that all scientists COULD be working on deep sea exploration. There wasn't a scientist working on it but then a bloke pulled him away and asked him to do space instead. Not all of them enjoy marine biology, not all of them work in the correct or an analogous field.

Secondly, there is always the argument AGAINST directed research. That is, most of our most amazing discoveries happened through studying something else and often enough by accident, so why would directed research be any better? The cosmic background radiation was discovered at bell laboratories and they thought it was due to pigeon shit at first. You may as well go back in time and tell einstein to stop pissing about with light and help solve real world problems like in-car navigation. Then suddenly 50 years down the line we have no state of the art GPS system because he didn't go into relativity.

Thirdly, exploring deep sea trenches is, i believe, an engineering problem rather than a theoretical problem. Why would a scientist need to stop working on discovering things to help to either build or generate money for something?

Fouthly, if you think there's interesting stuff in the tiny amount of water that exists on our planet, you should read up on space.

Finally, at least some of the software tools developed by computational astrophysicists have been used to solve earth-bound problems such as climate change and weather systems, so if you study something else you may end up killing two birds with one stone.

Why the hell would anyone rather look at the ocean which is right next to us over the deepest reaches of space anyway? But if we find the key to faster than light travel down there, i'll be looking sheepish

James Cameron (Avatar, Titanic) Goes to Bottom Of Ocean

Between 1000 and 5000 Meters The Ocean Is WEIRD

MilkmanDan says...

Very cool! Did that shrimp spray a bioluminescent ink to distract the angler fish?

The low point was usage of 'u' as a shortened form of 'you' in the intro. If the next David Attenborough makes documentaries employing lolcat speak, I'll become a grumpy old bastard well before my time.

/edit:
Also just noticed that the text says 1000-5000 meters deep, versus the title of 1000-5000 feet. Not sure which is correct, but a quick google search lists the Marianas Trench at about 11000 meters deep, so the figure in meters is at least possible.

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