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Javelin Missile Fails - 246K Each

Drachen_Jager says...

The missiles are "only" 78k. 246k is the total launcher + missile price.

Still... some solid American engineering there. Just like the F22, the F35, Bradleys original-issue M16s etc.

Bill Maher: Who Needs Guns?

scheherazade says...

Lawrence Wilkerson's dismissive comments about self defense are very disrespectful to people who have had to resort to self defense. He wouldn't say things like that had he been unfortunate enough to have had such a personal experience. (As one parent of a Fla victim said - his child would have given anything for a firearm at the time of the event.)

Re. 2nd amendment, yes, it's not for pure self defense. The reasoning is provided within the text. The government is denied legal powers over gun ownership ('shall not be infringed') in order to preserve the ability of the people to form a civilian paramilitary intended to face [presumably invading] foreign militaries in combat ('militia').

It's important to remember that the U.S. is a republic - so the citizens are literally the state (not in abstract, but actually so). As such, there is very little distinction between self defense and state defense - given that self and state are one.

Personally, I believe any preventative law is a moral non-starter. Conceptually they rely on doling out punishment via rights-denial to all people, because some subset might do harm. Punishment should be reserved for those that trespass on others - violating their domain (body/posessions/etc). Punishment should not be preemptive, simply to satiate the fears/imaginations of persons not affected by those punished. Simply, there should be no laws against private activities among consenting individuals. Folks don't have to like what other folks do, and they don't have to be liked either. It's enough to just leave one another alone in peace.

Re. Fla, the guilty party is dead. People should not abuse government to commit 3rd party trespass onto innocent disliked demographics (gun owners) just to lash out. Going after groups of people out of fear or dislike is unjustified.







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As an aside, the focus on "assault rifles" makes gun control advocates appear not sincere, and rather knee-jerk/emotional. Practically all gun killings utilize pistols.

There are only around 400 or so total rifle deaths per year (for all kinds of rifles combined) - which is almost as many as the people who die each year by falling out of bed (ever considered a bed to be deadly? With 300 million people, even low likelihood events must still happen reasonably often. It's important to keep in mind the likelihood, and not simply the totals.).

Around 10'000 people die each day out of all causes. Realistically, rifles of all sorts, especially assault rifles, are not consequential enough to merit special attention - given the vast ocean of far more deadly things to worry about.

If they were calling for a ban+confiscation of all pistols, with a search of every home and facility in the U.S., then I'd consider the advocates to be at least making sense regarding the objective of reducing gun related death.

Also, since sidearms have less utility in a military application, a pistol ban is less anti-2nd-amendment than an assault rifle ban.







As a technical point, ar15s are not actually assault rifles - they just look like one (m4/m16).
Assault rifles are named after the German Sturm Gewehr (storm rifle). It's a rifle that splits the difference between a sub-machinegun (automatic+pistol ammo) and a battle rifle (uses normal rifle/hunting ammo).

- SMG is easy to control in automatic, but has limited damage. (historical example : ppsh-41)

- Battle rifles do lots of damage, but are hard to control (lots of recoil, using full power hunting ammo). (historical example : AVT-40)

- An 'assault rifle' uses something called an 'intermediate cartridge'. It's a shrunken down, weaker version of hunting ammo. A non-high-power rifle round, that keeps recoil in check when shooting automatic. It's stronger than a pistol, but weaker than a normal rifle. But that weakness makes it controllable in automatic fire. (historical example : StG-44)

- The ar15 has no automatic fire. This defeats the purpose of using weak ammo (automatic controlability). So in effect, it's just a weak normal rifle. (The M4/M16 have automatic, so they can make use of the weak ammo to manage recoil - and they happen to look the same).

Practically speaking, a semi-auto hunting rifle is more lethal. A Remington 7400 with box mag is a world deadlier than an ar15. An M1A looks like a hunting rifle, and is likewise deadlier than an ar15. Neither are viewed as evil or dangerous.

You can also get hunting rifles that shoot intermediate cartridges (eg. Ruger Mini14). The lethality is identical to an ar15, but because it doesn't look black and scary, no one complains.

In practice, what makes the ar15 scary is its appearance. The pistol grip, the adjustable stock, the muzzle device, the black color, all are visual identifiers, and those visuals have become politically more important than what it actually does.

You can see the lack of firearms awareness in the proposed laws - proposed bans focus on those visual features. No pistol grips, no adjustable stocks, etc. Basically a listing of ancillary features that evoke scary appearance, and nothing to do with the core capabilities of a firearm.

What has made the ar15 the most popular rifle in the country, is that it has very good ergonomics, and is very friendly to new shooters. The low recoil doesn't scare new shooters away, and the great customizability makes it like a gun version of a tuner-car.

I think its massive success, popularity, and widespread adoption, have made it the most likely candidate to be used in a shooting. It's cursed to be on-hand whenever events like Fla happen.

-scheherazade

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bobknight33 says...

Assault rifles ( M16 rifle.) are illegal. People like you don't know what your are talking about.

There are rifles (Ar15)that look like assault rifles abut are just regular rifles.

The guy was on a mission to kill gays in the name of Allah. The gun was just a tool.

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Yep nothing gets fixed- so keep doing the same elect Hillary.

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Fairbs said:

I think you're wrong about the root cause, but you'll continue to follow the same themes and nothing will get done.
Do you have or need an assault rifle? If not, why do you continue to support what's tragically killing these people. How about more money to mental health. What about the Republicans blocking legislation stopping people on the no fly list being able to get guns just recently. Nothing gets fixed. We just move on to the next tragedy which is a sure sign of stupidity as individuals and as a nation.

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AK-47 Commits Suicide Rather Aid Al-Qaida

Magicpants says...

You think he got a spiked load?

It's rumored that because the AK uses a different ammo type than the m16, the US sometimes sells AK ammo into the channel that are "spiked" with high-explosives.

chipunderwood said:

"The AK is a pretty reliable rifle especially when CLEANED regularly. Oh, and always use the correct amount of powder in your loads.

SFOGuy (Member Profile)

SFOGuy says...

Thanks. Still puzzles me. The M16 video almost seems like the suppressors we hear (don't hear?) in video games---and then the other one?
lol
Anyway---thanks.

newtboy said:

The best explanation I have is that there are different types and qualities of suppressors, some do a better job than others. I think the 150db -110db is not the best that can be done today. I've seen .22s with large suppressors that you could fire indoors all day without ear protection and were so quiet you could hear the gun's internals working, and I've also seen some that hardly lowered the volume at all.

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Taiwan news CGI on Sarah Palin

Arkaium says...

LOL at the M16 being fired off in the living room. And of course for the pole dancing. And the mud wrestling with Obama.

For folks in the know: do these actually air on news programs in Taiwan, or are they more like E! news or TMZ-style shows? Because if it's their actual news... *slow clap*

Crazy tracer bullet battle in Afghanistan, close call

highdileeho says...

the tracers are loaded up every 5th round in the m16, every 10th in the fully automatic S.A.W. What those fellas needed was one well placed round of artey, would have saved them alot of time, I suspect they went a little trigger happy, a shame because I bet the enemy just wandered off to shoot another day. But what do I know, maybe there wasn't any available for whatever reason.

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Leaked Military Report Says Afghan Army Nowhere Near Ready

ToKeyMonsTeR says...

My hypothesis: A year after the U.S. is done giving guns/training to the ANA youll have a bunch of street gangs and militias fighting each other and neighboring countries with m16s.

edit: Then 50 years later we send troops over with m17s to train and equip a new army

RedSky (Member Profile)

JAPR says...

Well, the rifles themselves are great, but having that red dot sight makes a WORLD of difference lol.

In reply to this comment by RedSky:
Not really, I remember from CoD4 you started with an M16 and that along with the second unlock the AK47 were basically the best two assault rifles in the game. Probably would be the same with MW2. Plus they've got death streaks this time around too, so even if you suck you can feel like a winner

But yeah, don't buy this game unless you want to support IW/Activision in making removing dedicated servers the status quo for the industry, not that it matters with how well it's sold already <_<
The sad thing is even if it had sold badly on PC, odds are they would have just blamed piracy for causing that anyway and argued that as a good reason to centralise it even more next time around. You just can't win nowadays ...

^JAPR:
I might just do that, the single player looks amazingly fun. It's really hard to start out on the online multiplayer, because everybody has better weapons and perks than you, making it really hard to play well at first, since you spend more time dying than anything else.
In reply to this comment by RedSky:
A little birdy told me that pirating to play the SP is good idea
But yeah, lack of dedicated servers killed any interest in buying it for me too. Not to mention the first wasn't that great anyway, weapons balance was fucked because they modelled it on real weapons, there were waaaay too many annoying power ups, and the gameplay was tipped towards whoever sprays in the general vicinity wins as opposed to precise aiming. By the sounds of it the second one is worse in every respect so no thanks!
In reply to this comment by JAPR:
np, don't let his silliness bring you down lol. i haven't played the game yet (due to not being willing to buy it for pc until they let us have dedicated servers, even if that's never), but I heard about it, so I found the vid hugely entertaining. I'll promote until it makes it like it deserves.


JAPR (Member Profile)

RedSky says...

Not really, I remember from CoD4 you started with an M16 and that along with the second unlock the AK47 were basically the best two assault rifles in the game. Probably would be the same with MW2. Plus they've got death streaks this time around too, so even if you suck you can feel like a winner

But yeah, don't buy this game unless you want to support IW/Activision in making removing dedicated servers the status quo for the industry, not that it matters with how well it's sold already <_<
The sad thing is even if it had sold badly on PC, odds are they would have just blamed piracy for causing that anyway and argued that as a good reason to centralise it even more next time around. You just can't win nowadays ...

^JAPR:
I might just do that, the single player looks amazingly fun. It's really hard to start out on the online multiplayer, because everybody has better weapons and perks than you, making it really hard to play well at first, since you spend more time dying than anything else.
In reply to this comment by RedSky:
A little birdy told me that pirating to play the SP is good idea
But yeah, lack of dedicated servers killed any interest in buying it for me too. Not to mention the first wasn't that great anyway, weapons balance was fucked because they modelled it on real weapons, there were waaaay too many annoying power ups, and the gameplay was tipped towards whoever sprays in the general vicinity wins as opposed to precise aiming. By the sounds of it the second one is worse in every respect so no thanks!
In reply to this comment by JAPR:
np, don't let his silliness bring you down lol. i haven't played the game yet (due to not being willing to buy it for pc until they let us have dedicated servers, even if that's never), but I heard about it, so I found the vid hugely entertaining. I'll promote until it makes it like it deserves.




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