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Hanoi Hot Dogs

choggie says...

I'd eat cat.
Had squirrel, possum, gibnut(nutria),raccoon, snake,wild piggy,moose, all N.American game w/hoooves, Buffalo........can't really say I would not try any flesh , if prepared for a pleasing response, to the battery of senses......that goes double for neighbors when the grocery trucks stop running......tend to gravitate t'wards the herbivores though......just feeeels right

dgandhi (Member Profile)

gorgonheap says...

True, cows of different breeds can be more aggressive then others. Most all of the cows I've driven have been Angus, which are known for their mild temperament.

I think you bring up a good point about environment. I lived on an Indian Reservation for a while and dog there ran wild, no owners and were often abused and riddled with disease. They acted different then more domesticated dogs in that if you turned your back they would charge you. Usually turning to them and pretending to bend down would cause them to scatter and regroup at a safe distance. For those dogs it was a harsh upbringing and survival was much more paramount then it would be for another dog.

In reply to this comment by dgandhi:
In reply to this comment by gorgonheap:
Just wanted to clarify some things you seem to be ignorant about. If a cow had horns it would not "happily impale" anyone. Cows are herbivores and have a lot of natural predators. It's in their nature not to seek confrontation with other animals. Most cows need to be dehorned anyway because the horns grow into the skull and eventually kill the animal prematurely.

Chances are that your friend who was once charged was doing something to the calf that seemed threating to the mother. After calves are weened mothers become significantly less protective. In fact unless a cow has a young calf I've never seen one become aggressive or defend itself from an attack. I say this because I've worked on a dairy farm since I was 5 and been a ranch hand for close to 5 years.

The cow in question was grazing with her calf in the jungle in Mexico. Folks let the cows forage in the jungle, they leave the horns on them, and according to the locals, the cows do kill things that mess with them. I was walking down a trail, saw the cows, didn't think much of it, until I heard this snorting/stomping, turned around, charging cow, horns pointed at me. I half hid behind a small tree on the path edge, stuck out my hand, made some WHOA! type sounds, and the cow stopped. She would scrape and snort in an obviously threatening manner when I tried to keep walking down the path where I realized her calf was. I ended up turning around and going the other way.

I submit to you that cows raised in a more hostile environment may be more prone to aggression then you are likely to see on a farm. I'm not saying she was a genius, I'm just saying she was not to be trifled with. This event is on the short version of my "If I hadn't noticed I'd be dead" list.

gorgonheap (Member Profile)

dgandhi says...

In reply to this comment by gorgonheap:
Just wanted to clarify some things you seem to be ignorant about. If a cow had horns it would not "happily impale" anyone. Cows are herbivores and have a lot of natural predators. It's in their nature not to seek confrontation with other animals. Most cows need to be dehorned anyway because the horns grow into the skull and eventually kill the animal prematurely.

Chances are that your friend who was once charged was doing something to the calf that seemed threating to the mother. After calves are weened mothers become significantly less protective. In fact unless a cow has a young calf I've never seen one become aggressive or defend itself from an attack. I say this because I've worked on a dairy farm since I was 5 and been a ranch hand for close to 5 years.

The cow in question was grazing with her calf in the jungle in Mexico. Folks let the cows forage in the jungle, they leave the horns on them, and according to the locals, the cows do kill things that mess with them. I was walking down a trail, saw the cows, didn't think much of it, until I heard this snorting/stomping, turned around, charging cow, horns pointed at me. I half hid behind a small tree on the path edge, stuck out my hand, made some WHOA! type sounds, and the cow stopped. She would scrape and snort in an obviously threatening manner when I tried to keep walking down the path where I realized her calf was. I ended up turning around and going the other way.

I submit to you that cows raised in a more hostile environment may be more prone to aggression then you are likely to see on a farm. I'm not saying she was a genius, I'm just saying she was not to be trifled with. This event is on the short version of my "If I hadn't noticed I'd be dead" list.

dgandhi (Member Profile)

gorgonheap says...

Just wanted to clarify some things you seem to be ignorant about. If a cow had horns it would not "happily impale" anyone. Cows are herbivores and have a lot of natural predators. It's in their nature not to seek confrontation with other animals. Most cows need to be dehorned anyway because the horns grow into the skull and eventually kill the animal prematurely.

Chances are that your friend who was once charged was doing something to the calf that seemed threating to the mother. After calves are weened mothers become significantly less protective. In fact unless a cow has a young calf I've never seen one become aggressive or defend itself from an attack. I say this because I've worked on a dairy farm since I was 5 and been a ranch hand for close to 5 years.

Now having said that I hope you'll realize that most the comments I make on this site are satirical in nature and have an exaggerated and dry sense of humor. And if cannibalism wasn't frowned upon in most societies that might not be a bad idea.

In reply to this comment by dgandhi:
On your list of "racisms" I only come anywhere near the calling Christians Morons one, but I assure you that I reserve that for morons who happen to be Christians. While I do agree that we all have racism "issues" I find that they are more often systemic, rather then interpersonal.

Since I will be assumed to be more competent then somebody else because I am white, or male, or from an upper middle-class family I find the unaknowledged affirmative action of racism a much more prevalent form of racism then crass bigotry, which you seem to think everyone is prone to.

GH: I don't know if I'm the token vegan who needs to respond to your jab, but allow me to assure you that a cow who has not had her horns snipped would happily impale you, or a wolf any day of the week. I say this as somebody who was once charged by a horned overprotective momma cow, I would not mess with her.

P.S. since GH wants to eat others on the basis of intelligence how about everybody post your IQ/SAT scores so we know who to roast over the spit next

Impala outsmarts a Cheetah and a Hyena

Ants - Nature's Secret Power -- An ant documentary (French).

messenger says...

This doc was so fascinating, I had to translate the interesting bits (which is about 90% of it):

Ants transnmit secret mesasges, and follow invisible paths. Their code is just now beginning to be cracked. Ants are not ordinary creatures. They can support 100 X their mass. Each ant individually has some extrordinary ability, so when they unite, they become a true superpower.

<Title: The Secret Organization of Ants>

We are in central Europe. These wood ants are in search of food. Their actions look random, each ant doing something different, but in reality, they are all working together, each doing its own specific job. In a single year, One colony can consume more than 10,000,000 insects.

Despite being so small, ants are one of the most formidable predators on the planet. They eat more meat than lions, tigres and bears combined.

When attacked by a predator, or subjected to a scientific experiment, wood ants all react in the same way. To defend their nest, the workers shoot formic acid. The life of a single ant is worth little. The sole goal is the survival of the colony.

A shot of acid in the nose or eyes is enough to make the bear turn away. The hive is now exposed, and about to face an enemy far more powerful than the bear. The bees don’t stand a chance.

The adults, having expended so much effort, seek out a much more energy-giving staple, honeydew – a sugar- and vitamin-rich stubstance secreted by aphids. In exchange for the production of honeydew, the aphids receive the ants’ protection. In a single year, a colony of wood ants may consume 100kg of honeydew.

In Indonesia, this relationship has been taken even a step further. These Indonesian ants still protect and drink from the aphids, but here they carry the aphids themselves from plant to plant, and even direct the aphids to the best, sweetest parts of the flower. They act as shepherds, tending to their flocks. These Indonesian ants are the only creatures on Earth to own domestic animals, besides humans.

When they detect a coming storm, they remove their livestock to the shelter of large leaves. After the storm, work resumes. The largest aphids, the mothers, receive preferencial treatment. They travel on the heads of the ants. The smallest make the jouney in the mandibles of their guardians.

Other speceis have developped far less pacificstic relationships. These are the carnivorous plants from the island of borneo. Some of their leaves form urns with ultra-splippery rims. Each pouch containds deadly liquid. This liquid digests insects that fall into the trap. All the insects climb up, attracted by the smell of its nectar. This giant carpenter ant isn’t the only ant about. This miniscule campanotus can walk the very dangerous rim without falling in. Once the giant falls in, it has no means for escape, and the tiny campanotus is put to the task. Unique among ants, it can swim underwater. It can also survive the liquid that is slowly digesting the carpenter ant. They eat their host’s victims, and in exchange, ensure their host’s protection from herbivores.

The tiny ants’ secret is demonstrated by their ability to walk the rim of the plant and get out of the water. Back in the laboratory, these ants are put in a centrifuge, and subjected to a spinning force 100X that of gravity, the ants still cling to the smooth surface. This secret lies in the miscroscopic film of liquid at the end of their legs. This skill is essential for building the nests.

Ant descended from wasps, and first appeard more than 100,000,000 years ago. Some species have retained primitive characteristics. These Australian ants still have the sting of their ancestors. Different from other species, the workers are nearly as big as the queen, and they lay their own eggs, though, non-fertile ones, which serve to nourish the larvae. Only the queen gives life to the next generation. Among other species, the organization of these ants is heirarchical. When a queen dies, several workers become fertile, and seek to replace her by eliminating their rivals. What follows is a ritualistic attack, where the ants attempt to wear out their opponents by striking them with their antennae, and pinching them with their beaks.

These conflicts are an exception among ants. Ants generally strive for the good of the colony. There are thousands of species of ants, and their prosperity rests not in the strength or abilities of the individuals, but in the organization of their society.

There is an immense diversity in this insect group, but all species of ants share a common trait: they all function as societies. No species of ant known lives apart from the others. The evolutionary transition from solitary to social has only affected 3-5% of animals, including humans, but this minority enjoys domination in almost all land habitats.

One of the most impressive examples can be seen in the pampas of Argentina. The ants are so organized in their gathering of food, that they represent a serious menace to the herds of something <cattle>?. Something else about the roof of their somethings. And I’m going to bed now.

Tiger hunting in India: Sometimes the Tiger Wins!

eric3579 says...

Kaziranga, Assam, June 09 : Delayed reports from the field and video replays of the attack by the tigress on the mahout Satya Pegu, tell a different story, where human lives were saved purely due to “quick thinking” by the female working elephant, Joymala.

For those who came in late, a large adult tigress, suspected to be the mother of the two cubs rescued from Tamuli Pathar village(adjoining Kaziranga) on May 16, severely mauled the mahout of an Assam forest department elephant, which was carrying rangers trying to dart her on the morning of May 19.

The 25-year-old mahout, Satya Pegu, who was badly lacerated, lost three fingers on his left hand, is in a hospital in Dibrugarh. Doctors are worried about the onset of gangrene and may have to amputate his left palm. The Wildlife Trust of India and its partner, the International Fund for Animal Welfare have offered to cover his medical expenses.

Reconstruction of events and a video taken by the divisional forest officer, R.K.Das, graphically show how Joymala pinned down the tigress with her foot as it was trying to get up and attack the officers who had fallen on the ground.

The reconstructed story goes a bit like this: the forest department received a message early on May 19th about a large tiger which had killed two cows near Tamuli Pathar village, which is close to the boundary of the Kaziranga National Park (KNP) in the north-eastern Assam state.

By 10 am a joint team of the Assam forest department including the director of the park, Mr N. K. Vasu, the local administration, police and the army, and the Wildlife Trust of India(WTI)-managed Centre for Wildlife Rehabilitation and Conservation (CWRC) was combing the area with five elephants trying to locate the animal.

“From the pugmarks, it looked like a very large female, which led us to suspect that this may be the mother of the two cubs that we had rescued and released on Monday,” Dr Bhaskar Choudhary, CWRC veterinarian, who was involved in darting the two sub-adult tigers on Sunday, said. The tigers were released late on Monday evening in the eastern part of the Agoratuli range near the Matiaranga guard hut.

“After looking around everywhere, we first spotted the tigress in a bamboo grove near the village. As it sensed our presence it moved into the backyard of a hut and then quickly walked into a nearby paddy field,” Dr Chaudhary said.

Range officer, Dharanidhar Bodo, Dr Chaudhary along with a guard were riding the elephant, Joymala, driven by Pegu. Bodo was carrying the darting gun. As the elephant moved towards the tigress, it did a mock charge. The guard fired two blanks to discourage her and she ran away into the next field, where the paddy was thick and hid there.

The team cautiously moved towards it and could get to almost 20 feet where she was growling away. Bodo could see her clearly and took a shot at it with the dart gun. The dart missed her and this enraged her so much that she charged and took a “flying” leap on to the elephant’s head. “I have not seen something as dramatic as this,” Vivek Menon, executive director WTI, who recently saw the footage, said. “I could never imagine that a tiger could so effortlessly leap from the ground on to an adult elephant’s head, which is at least 12 feet above the ground,” he said.

The footage showed that Pegu saw the tigress leaping and threw the metal ankush at it to defend himself. “The tigress saw the ankush coming, dodged it in mid-leap and took a swipe at Pegu without actually landing on the elephant, which had stepped back,” Menon said.

“It all happened in a few seconds and before we knew what both Bodo and the guard had fallen down,” Dr Choudhary narrated. What now happened was even more amazing. As the tigress landed on the ground Joymala quickly pinned her down with her left fore foot and tried to control it with its trunk. The tigress struggled under this weight for at least half a minute roaring, as other people in the vicinity shouted and fired shots in the air. In this commotion another attempt was made to dart it, but even this shot was off the mark. The tigress finally struggled loose and ran away.

“If it had not been for Joymala, both Bodo and the guard would have been badly injured or dead,” he said. Meanwhile, Joymala, which was trying to aggressively chase the tigress, was calmed by the CWRC veterinarian, who was holding on to the profusely bleeding mahout. “His fingers were hanging by few shreds of tissue and I tried to tourniquet the wounds,” he said.

The two sub-adult tigers had strayed out of the heavily wooded Agoratuli range of the KNP into the neighbouring Tamuli Pathar village close to the national highway. It was speculated that the mother could be nearby, but she could not be spotted.

KNP has one of the highest density of tigers among the protected areas in India , but are difficult to see due to the thick vegetation in this grassland dominated park.

The Centre for Wildlife Rehabilitation and Conservation (CWRC) is a joint venture of the Assam forest department and the Wildlife Trust of India, and is supported by its partner the International Fund for Animal Welfare (IFAW). This rescue and rehabilitation facility for animals of the region is a first of its kind facility in India has handled over 300 animals in the last two years including mega-herbivores like elephants, rhinos and wild buffaloes. These were the first tigers brought to the facility in two years of its existence.

Complete Video - http://youtube.com/watch?v=1LjG7S8aqJg

Blue Man Group - Global Warming Warning

choggie says...

and then choggie askes, "what in good heaven's or hades, Holy Cursed Fist or Fiddler's Fuck, can I do about wobal glorming? Tell me Mormon!? Tell me Moonie! TELL ME AL FUCKING ROBOT PUTTY, YES MAN FOR THE HERBIVORES, GORE!?? Tell me cult of subgenious!!, wait, yes, THEY can tell me-.....

T H E Y
L I V E!

intellogents, is sorely over-rated.

"We have to exterminate white people..."

choggie says...

...yeah, reality is more to the tune of all of us,every race-creed-color, has an unknown hand, that full ofour collective short and curlies......

..upvote for the applause for veganism...(i love to make fun of self-appointed, herbivores)
....oh and CSPAN sucks, more useless diversion....



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