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Bush Wipes Hand on Clinton's Shirt After Greeting Haitians

dannym3141 says...

>> ^alizarin:

If you see the full version you see this edit is disingenuous bs.
Bush wanted to move along and he tapped Clinton on the shoulder followed by that gesture. Clinton is known to hang around and shake hands allot, Bush is known for wanting to stick with the schedule so they say.
There's so many things that make Bush a terrible man, why trash him when he actually does something good like help raise funds for Haiti?


That's so much nonsense. It's CLEARLY a wipe in the full version too. There's hardly any difference.

Not that i care beyond wanting the truth to be stated.

videosiftbannedme (Member Profile)

Bush Wipes Hand on Clinton's Shirt After Greeting Haitians

paganif1 says...

Second. Definitely a tap.

Even if he got soap, a bucket, and used Clinton's shirt to dry, who the fuck cares. This one thing tarnishes Bushes reputation. He was noble and just prior to this horrible incident. This one thing will totally change my opinion of him. I'm sure the rest of you feel the exact same way. OMG I hate Bush, OMG me too, cool, let's be friends.

I dislike all the shit he pulled just as much as the next sifter, but honestly this is what we care about. This is breaking news. Find me Cheney "grazing" the first lady then we'll have something to talk about.

>> ^nach0s:

I'm no Dubya fan, but I call BS on the 'wipe'. He could have just as easily been tapping him on the shoulder.

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Bush Wipes Hand on Clinton's Shirt After Greeting Haitians

Kevlar says...

>> ^blankfist:

^I don't care if he tapped Clinton on the shoulder or not. In my mind it's funnier if he wiped his hands on him, so that's what I'll remember. Truth has no place when comedy is afoot!!!


It's even funnier in the 'unedited' BBC video where you see him do the little peek-a-boo finger wave at everyone, like his name is Thelma and he's trying delicately to acknowledge his girlfriends while blowing on his freshly-painted fingernails wrapped around a Corona at the Albuquerque 37th Annual Chili Cook-Off.

Goddamnit, Presidents should always wave like the stoic Templar in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade.

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Bush Wipes Hand on Clinton's Shirt After Greeting Haitians

csnel3 says...

Master Bush cleaned his glasses on his assistants dress before a TV interview. I cant find the link... I think google is now a big part of the new world order, or I,m just wrong.

>> ^shagen454:
I swear that I've seen Bush do this elsewhere that was in the United States sitting around during a speech and wiping his dirtied hands on someone else. I could have sworn he wiped something on Gore... maybe he's superstitious or maybe he's so used to people coddling his fucking pampered lazy ass.

Bush Wipes Hand on Clinton's Shirt After Greeting Haitians

Hive13 says...

>> ^nach0s:

I'm no Dubya fan, but I call BS on the 'wipe'. He could have just as easily been tapping him on the shoulder.


He looks around briefly before wiping. He is clearly looking for someplace to wipe whatever ickiness was on his hand.

Hive13 (Member Profile)

Bush Wipes Hand on Clinton's Shirt After Greeting Haitians

Christopher Hitchens and Stephen Fry on The 10 Commandments

SDGundamX says...

I know given the number of atheists here on the Sift maybe writing this is a moot point--and I will preface all of this by saying I am NOT a Christian--but I think people here who are hating on the 10 commandments need to put things into a little perspective.

The 10 commandments were written at a time when the Jewish people were on the verge of extinction. They had just fled slavery in Egypt and were moving through difficult and wild countryside on their search for a new (or old depending how you look at it) homeland. If they were to survive at all, everyone would have to work together.

Maybe some people here think not stealing or killing should be self-evident but just look at what is happening in Haiti right now--the hospitals are getting flooded with as many gunshot and machete wounds as they are quake injuries as people fight for survival. The Jewish people were in a far worse situation than the Haitians--they didn't have anybody coming to bail them out. They had only each other to rely on. I think Moses and the other Jewish leaders realized that a totalitarian regime was the ONLY way for them to survive that journey. You had to punish stealing with death because the survival of the group depended on people trusting each other and working together. If someone wasn't willing to work for the survival of the group, they were a threat to the group's survival. If Moses and the others didn't want things to devolve into chaos, they probably figured they needed to keep a firm grip.

I think if you regard the 10 commandments in this light, they make a lot of sense. If the Jews lost their collective sense of identity and some people in the group started worshiping other gods, then that would be a threat to the group's security. It might cause internal friction or an outright split. Furthermore, the only thing people are more afraid of losing than their lives is their souls. If the 10 commandments are God's word, then maybe you think twice about stealing something. Notice that we have lots of laws against stealing in civilized countries and yet we also have jails full of thieves. Apparently the word of man is not enough to deter people, but for the Jews at this time, the word God may have been enough.

Now, obviously the world has changed a lot since Moses' time. But I don't think that totally negates a need for the ten commandments. As I mentioned above, despite having laws, despite whatever "innate" sense of morals we might have (I have large doubts about the idea that any morals are innate, but for the sake of this post let's just say it is true), there are still people out there willing to kill, rob, or screw their neighbor's wife if given the opportunity. But would they be willing to do those things if they believed in a deity that would punish them for these things even if they were not caught while alive in this world? I don't have the answer. For some, such as the criminally insane, it obviously wouldn't make any difference. But for others...? If it does keep them from doing something that we all agree is immoral (I'm leaving aside the worshiping idol stuff at the moment) is that really such a terrible thing? If it reinforces our own "innate" sense of morals, is that so bad? Regardless of what religious view you take, can you really argue that rules against killing or stealing are a bad thing?

My 2 cents. Thanks for reading.



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