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QI - Why Your Grandparents Are Retarded

Gabe_b says...

>> ^imstellar28:
Thus, the life of someone with an IQ of 130 or greater is much different. They can only identify, at least on some level, with less than 2-14% of their peers. To them, the world is also homogeneous, but they are the ones on the outside looking in.


Or they can just drink a lot and fit in nicely. Well, in spurts at least.

enoch (Member Profile)

imstellar28 says...

130 is "Very Superior." I think most define genius as being above 140

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I read something about IQs that I hadn't really thought of before. If you look at a distribution of IQs:

http://i45.tinypic.com/dyumad.gif

You see that:
68 out of 100 people have an IQ between 85 and 115
2 out of 100 people have an IQ above 130
2 out of 100 people have an IQ below 70

And if you note what an IQ score represents:
70- Mentally Disabled
80 Borderline
90 Low Average
100 Average
110 High Average
120 Gifted
130+ Genius / Very Superior

You find that the average person, at an IQ of around 100, has something in common with roughly 68-95% of their peers. Someone in this group can, at least on some level, identify with the vast majority of people around them. To them, the world is more or less homogeneous, consisting for the most part, of people just like themselves. From their perspective, it is only a few people that stick out: the mentally disabled and the geniuses. People you hear about but rarely meet.

However, if you look at the distribution of IQs you find that the difference between average and mentally disabled is only about 25 points - 75 to 100. Incidentally, the difference between average and genius, or very superior, is also 25 points - 100 to 125.

Thus, the life of someone with an IQ of 130 or greater is much different. They can only identify, at least on some level, with less than 2-14% of their peers. To them, the world is also homogeneous, but they are the ones on the outside looking in. An individual with an IQ greater than 130 perceives life very much like an average person would if they were in a room with 100 people, and almost all of them...85%...were either borderline or mentally disabled.



is this correct?
130+ is genius?
well would ya look at that...hmmmm..interesting.

QI - Why Your Grandparents Are Retarded

ryanbennitt says...

>> ^jwray:
Letting the retarded criminals live and executing the smart ones sounds like a very bad idea in the long run.


How else would you cut down on the criminal mastermind population? The clever ones are more likely to either find a legal technicality out of prison, or hatch a really ingenious escape plan. Then you're stuck with the problem of potentially running into a really clever mass murderer on the streets, one who can not only outwit the law, but find very clever ways to kill you that you have no hope of thinking your way out of. The retarded mass murderers are harmless by comparison.

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enoch says...

In reply to this comment by imstellar28:
I read something about IQs that I hadn't really thought of before. If you look at a distribution of IQs:

http://i45.tinypic.com/dyumad.gif

You see that:
68 out of 100 people have an IQ between 85 and 115
2 out of 100 people have an IQ above 130
2 out of 100 people have an IQ below 70

And if you note what an IQ score represents:
70- Mentally Disabled
80 Borderline
90 Low Average
100 Average
110 High Average
120 Gifted
130+ Genius / Very Superior

You find that the average person, at an IQ of around 100, has something in common with roughly 68-95% of their peers. Someone in this group can, at least on some level, identify with the vast majority of people around them. To them, the world is more or less homogeneous, consisting for the most part, of people just like themselves. From their perspective, it is only a few people that stick out: the mentally disabled and the geniuses. People you hear about but rarely meet.

However, if you look at the distribution of IQs you find that the difference between average and mentally disabled is only about 25 points - 75 to 100. Incidentally, the difference between average and genius, or very superior, is also 25 points - 100 to 125.

Thus, the life of someone with an IQ of 130 or greater is much different. They can only identify, at least on some level, with less than 2-14% of their peers. To them, the world is also homogeneous, but they are the ones on the outside looking in. An individual with an IQ greater than 130 perceives life very much like an average person would if they were in a room with 100 people, and almost all of them...85%...were either borderline or mentally disabled.



is this correct?
130+ is genius?
well would ya look at that...hmmmm..interesting.

QI - Why Your Grandparents Are Retarded

MilkmanDan says...

>> ^imstellar28:
...
Thus, the life of someone with an IQ of 130 or greater is much different. They can only identify, at least on some level, with less than 2-14% of their peers. To them, the world is also homogeneous, but they are the ones on the outside looking in. An individual with an IQ greater than 130 perceives life very much like an average person would if they were in a room with 100 people, and almost all of them...85%...were either borderline or mentally disabled.


I don't really think it seems that way, at least not to the magnitude that your wording suggests. I'll assume that my 2nd IQ test was correct, and that I'm somewhere in the range of IQ 135-145. Just writing this sounds arrogant, but I have never felt like I am alone in a sea of stupid people or anything like that. I think what really happened with me is that I took the relative ease with which I can learn or remember academic-type information for granted.

In high school and college, I took courses which are typically seen as being "hard" - for example, I took Engineering Physics and Calculus 2 in my first semester at college. I never took notes in any class, and I basically never studied or read a coursebook outside of class, but I would generally get good grades pretty easily (my university GPA was 3.4). I think what I tend to fail to recognize is the gap between the effort that I put into getting those scores and what people with lower or average IQ put into it. Basically, I'm lazy - a failing which I take full personal responsibility for, but I think that government education programs like No Child Left Behind increase the incidence of that problem among high-IQ students.

I also had a good friend with an IQ that I know was significantly higher than mine; maybe 155+. On the things that really made me buckle down and work hard to understand, he would still be breezing through. I'm very glad that I had that experience, because it is good to learn that no matter how good you are or how easily you seem to be able to work things out, there is always somebody out there who can make you look like a confused idiot.

QI - Why Your Grandparents Are Retarded

QI - Why Your Grandparents Are Retarded

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the story of your decade in 3 paragraphs or less (History Talk Post)

gwiz665 says...

I grew up.

My grandparents died, my uncle died, I found love, I've found my profession, I woke up and smelled the coffee.

I went through high school and on to the university. I've dropped out of uni (computer science) once in 2005 and started on a new path in 2006 (information studies, game development). I almost have that finished now. I've been a slacker in school since forever, but now I'm better at it, so I keep up while slacking too.

I've had all the jobs I've ever had in the last decade, as a delivery guy for a lumber yard, selling fish to tourists, working with web development 2 separate times, have just gotten 2x internships as a game developer.

I've been depressed and overjoyed, luckily the last is lately. I've made a few enemies and a whole lot of friends. I've been disappointed by people and pleasantly surprised by others.

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ctrlaltbleach says...

^ Who is asking you to confrom? Ive lived my whole life and never had anyone ask me to conform to anything except maybe my grandparents but I shrug that off to them being old school.

I really don't think my point is getting across to well in above statements. Maybe I can sum up my whole issue in just a few lines. I had no problem with this video until the last line when he insulted at least half of the worlds population. I know people who are the exact representation of what he is describing and they are not a disgrace period. If he were sitting in front of me and a few of these people and said that I would be very confrontational just on how insulting that whole comment is whether I believe hes right or not. Otherwise he had not said anything that I did not already know. : )

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Seven Year Old Steals Car Gets No Video Games For Weekend

AnneL says...

I have a 4.5 yo nephew and I can't imagine him ever deciding that it was ok to do something as wrong as driving a car that wasn't his or doing other very WRONG things when he is that age. I don't blame Grandparents, Parents, Aunts, and Uncles teachers coaches or anybody else for how they "made the kid do this or that" or more than that how video games made the kid not do those things. Could the child choose to do something else beside video games twenty-four seven? I know my nephew, if I could explain to him what happened, would understand what it means that someone did something wrong if I told him a child did something with an adult car--how would that have to be explained to a 7 year old? I wouldn't even have considered that an option when I was 7 years old.w As far as the addiction to tv is concerned:My almost 5 year old nephew has plenty of ideas of things he likes to do besides tv and even if he did get more into watching tv that wouldn't be a good enough of an excuse for him to do something that would be called criminal in 5 years. (and I hope has legal pumishment attatched to it. Even if it is just paying for what was broken if anything. I am so frustrated when I hear about these types of things. Makes me realize I am growing up as an adult to a nephew who is part of a general group called his generation who don't care to be told what to do or to respect that there is right or wrong. I guess I do blame someone besides the child who is responsible for their actions. I blame parents who are so ill-involved in their kids' lives that they are doing stuff like this to get negative attention on themselves. Sad world we live in when 8-11 years olds are doing things that used to be for 12-15 year olds, if they chose to, to do!!!

Pit Bull Viciously Attacks News Anchor With Love and Slobber

HugeJerk says...

I had been around a lot of Pit Bulls as a kid, my aunt bred them and she gave us one and my grandparents one. They were one of the most affectionate dogs I've ever seen. Granted their affection and size didn't always have the best of results... I remember being dragged out the front door by our dog while I was holding his collar when we opened the door to greet a friend, he just ran up tried to lick him.

I've never seen a dog not give an indication of their mood before attacking, there's always some sort of warning unless you manage to suprise the dog. Pretty much all animals need to be closely watched when being introduced to something new. As for the claims that Pit Bulls having some sort of magic immunity to pain, I've never seen it. Our dogs always reacted to a smack as you'd expect, but they also never attacked any people or pets... however my 12inch Chewbacca did meet his demise in the mouth of our Pit.



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