>> ^xxovercastxx:

>> ^Boise_Lib:
Great video, but I have one quibble.
16 million people can trace their ancestry back to one person, but that person is not Genghis Khan. It is Genghis Khan's mother. His brothers (the ones he didn't kill) followed his leadership and were able to have many, many wives and concubines. Between them they have 16 million descendants.

I thought the Khan lineage was traced on the Y-chromosome. Wouldn't that require that "one person" to be male?


I thought about that after I posted.

If that's the case, change that to Genghis' father.

>> ^Boise_Lib:

Great video, but I have one quibble.
16 million people can trace their ancestry back to one person, but that person is not Genghis Khan. It is Genghis Khan's mother. His brothers (the ones he didn't kill) followed his leadership and were able to have many, many wives and concubines. Between them they have 16 million descendants.


I thought the Khan lineage was traced on the Y-chromosome. Wouldn't that require that "one person" to be male?

Great video, but I have one quibble.

16 million people can trace their ancestry back to one person, but that person is not Genghis Khan. It is Genghis Khan's mother. His brothers (the ones he didn't kill) followed his leadership and were able to have many, many wives and concubines. Between them they have 16 million descendants.

This is an excellent series. I saw it recently, after watching a similar doco last year,'On the Trail of Genghis Khan', by an Australian who rode from Mongolia to Hungary on a horse. Both fascinating, yet very different. The motorbike trek took 3 months, the horse trek took three years. Ewan and his friend Charlie had huge amounts of expensive equipment and a support crew. Tim had three horses, a tent, a dog and a satelite phone. Each had their own unique set of problems. All of them were pushed to new limits. Excellent stuff.

>> ^charliem:

What language are they speaking?
Certainly doesnt sound like Chinese....sounds more like Japanese.


The Mongolian language is one of its own; wiki says: As for the classification of the Mongolic family relative to other languages, the Altaic theory (which is increasingly less well received among linguists[28]) proposes that the Mongolic family is a member of a larger Altaic family that would also include the Turkic and Tungusic, and usually Korean and Japonic languages as well.

There are more Chinese languages/dialects than Mandarin, which is regarded as THE Chinese language to most people. Mandarin became the standard language in 1924, but the other dialects and variants are still spoken today.

A little on Genghis Khan's tactics:

After the Mongols surrounded your city:
On the first day they would erect a white tent--If the city surrendered the people would be spared (of course everything in the city would then belong to the Mongols.)

On the second day they would erect a red tent--If the city surrendered every male from the age of 13 up would be slaughtered.

On the third day they would erect a black tent--Everyone dies and the city is destroyed.

The Mongols would always leave a few survivors and give them horses, so that they could spread the word.

>> ^ChaosEngine:

>> ^Boise_Lib:
Fascinating person.
I recommend the series by Conn Iggulden
Genghis: Birth of an Empire
Genghis: Lords of the Bow
Genghis: Bones of the Hills
Khan: Empire of Silver
Very good historical fiction. It's fiction, but Iggulden does a very good job of staying true to history while writing a great novel.

I'd add the movie Mongol to that. Again, it's a dramatisation, but an excellent one...


From Russia, I bet they have an interesting take on this.
I love foreign movies.
Thanks, ChaosEngine.

>> ^Boise_Lib:

Fascinating person.
I recommend the series by Conn Iggulden
Genghis: Birth of an Empire
Genghis: Lords of the Bow
Genghis: Bones of the Hills
Khan: Empire of Silver
Very good historical fiction. It's fiction, but Iggulden does a very good job of staying true to history while writing a great novel.


I'd add the movie Mongol to that. Again, it's a dramatisation, but an excellent one...

>> ^ZappaDanMan:

@Boise_Lib cheers for that


We share a fascination with Genghis Khan and Zappa. <thumbs up>

>> ^ZappaDanMan:

>> ^Boise_Lib:
Fascinating person.
I recommend the series by Conn Iggulden
Genghis: Birth of an Empire
Genghis: Lords of the Bow
Genghis: Bones of the Hills
Khan: Empire of Silver
Very good historical fiction. It's fiction, but Iggulden does a very good job of staying true to history while writing a great novel.

Alright, i'll check them out. Looking for something different anyway, I'm stuck in a non-fiction grind at the moment. Which book do you start with ? are they serialised story telling.. from book to book (like lord of the rings).


Yes, I listed them in order.
They run from Temujin's childhood to Kublai Khan's reign--including the splintering:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Mongol_Empire_map.gif

>> ^Boise_Lib:

Fascinating person.
I recommend the series by Conn Iggulden
Genghis: Birth of an Empire
Genghis: Lords of the Bow
Genghis: Bones of the Hills
Khan: Empire of Silver
Very good historical fiction. It's fiction, but Iggulden does a very good job of staying true to history while writing a great novel.


Alright, i'll check them out. Looking for something different anyway, I'm stuck in a non-fiction grind at the moment. Which book do you start with ? are they serialised story telling.. from book to book (like lord of the rings).

>> ^SlipperyPete:

She was unimpressed by his shitty wall.


I thought she'd be less impressed with the cooking there.

With his shitty chicken and shitty beef.

>> ^joedirt:

she is an idiot.
You can find even worse examples in the Torah or Bible. So this is retarded. Yes, life WAS different hundreds of years ago.


Did you even watch the video? Whether or not life was different is irrelevant. Muslims look to the life of Muhammed as an example of how to live.

I admire Caesar and Genghis Khan as strategists and leaders, but at the same time I can recognise that both were guilty of what would be considered hideous atrocities in modern times. As such, I don't look to them for moral guidance. Unfortunately, Muhammed is not viewed with the same filter.

She definitely looks like Genghis Khan.

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