To be sure, it does not take "studies" and "experts" to "prove" that smog turns healthy breathable air into unhealthy unbreathable air.

But, again, the consensus among proponents of man-made global warming pretty much all agree that the cause is greenhouse gases. And the consensus is also that cattle accounts for the main source of greenhouse gases. I honestly don't see how anyone concerned with man-made global warming can ignore this and, therefore, not be vegetarian (i.e., be congruent in their behaviors and beliefs).

I recommend reading "Hot Talk, Cold Science", endorsed by respected physicist the late Frederick Seitz, William Harper professor of Physics at Princeton, Richard Lindzen, meteorologist at MIT, written by physicist Fred Singer.

If you want to know where Prof. Singer is coming from, read this (and skeptics are not "deniers"- that's just a slur).

But before you freak out, let me restate, it matters not; clean air is good either way; do things that contribute to clean air (like end the state -- > good luck with that!).

(Better to read and have these discussions with actual working climate scientists than to bother with Internet pundits either way.)

There is also "consensus" as to the three types of "deniers." If anyone calls me a "denier," I'd be curious as to which of the three types of "deniers" you think I belong to (as indicated in the Singer article linked above). And you can then give me your scientific explanations as to why my stance is not valid.

This is something worth keeping in mind (from Singer):

"I have concluded that we can accomplish very little with convinced warmistas and probably even less with true deniers. So we just make our measurements, perfect our theories, publish our work, and hope that in time the truth will out."

The warmistas matter as much as the deniers. And the bottomline remains: what are you going to do about it anyway? As has been shown over and over, your "votes" don't count for much (or anything at all). So, what are you going to do about this (other than fume and get your panties in a twist on videosift)? The same is true with the "deniers." And the skeptics (i.e., true scientists).

Science also doesn't work by consensus. No real scientist will say otherwise. You either prove/falsify some hypothesis or you don't. You don't determine the truth in science by "consensus." Scientific consensus, as has been said, is itself unscientific.

There is no "consensus" on the acceleration speed of falling objects. There is no "consensus" on whether the Earth is orbiting the sun. There is no "consensus" on water being made up of H2O. These you can measure and find out for yourself. (In fact, Galileo had less than 5% "consensus" on whether the Earth orbits the sun at the time of his experiments. Facts matter. "Consensus?" Not so much.)

But,

“If the science were as certain as climate activists pretend, then there would be precisely one climate model, and it would be in agreement with measured data. As it happens, climate modelers have constructed literally dozens of climate models. What they all have in common is a failure to represent reality, and a failure to agree with the other models. As the models have increasingly diverged from the data, the climate clique have nevertheless grown increasingly confident—from cocky in 2001 (66% certainty in IPCC’s Third Assessment Report) to downright arrogant in 2013 (95% certainty in the Fifth Assessment Report).”

Still, this does not in any way equate "denial" of man-made global warming or whatever other "climate change." That is simply an unfounded conflation made up by the propagandists which so many here take on as gospel.

And it still does not let anyone "off the hook" about actually doing something that matters if you care about it so much.

Let me know if anyone finds any "errors" in the science of the NGIPCC articles and studies that I posted above.

Eventually these people will die, and the old husks and their followers left behind will spur further movements towards greater equality.

Just think, Fred Phelps did more to help Gays gain sympathy and rights than probably any of you did.

*promote Meshuggah 25th Anniversary TOUR!!



Meshuggah announce 25th anniversary tour around Bonnaroo, asking fans to vote on their setlists (dates)
by Doug Moore
Meshuggah at the Roseland Ballroom, 2013 (more by Fred Pessaro)
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Few metal bands survive for 25 consecutive years, and even fewer retain a reputation for consistency over such a long period the way Meshuggah have. We already knew that the Swedish djent progenitors were slotted to play this year's edition of Bonnaroo in June, filling the bad-trip-inducement slot that Swans occupied last year. Unsurprisingly, they've also announced a short North American tour built around that date and their ensuing appearance at Quebec's Amnesia Rock Fest. The tour is being billed as a 25th-anniversary celebration for the band, and it also includes Between the Buried & Me on its non-festival dates. Meshuggah are also holding a poll in which fans can help the band decide what their set list will include by voting for one song from each album in their catalog.
The tour will hit NYC on 6/21 at Best Buy Theater. Tickets for that show haven't gone on sale yet, but keep an eye out. In the meantime, enjoy a live video (of mosh action, natch) from Meshuggah's last NYC appearance and check out the full set of dates below...
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Meshuggah -- 2014 Tour Dates
06/06/14 The Wiltern - Los Angeles, CA
06/07/14 The Regency Ballroom - San Francisco, CA
06/09/14 Ogden Theater - Denver, CO
06/11/14 House of Blues - Dallas, TX
06/13/14 Bonnaroo Music Festival - Manchester, TN
06/14/14 Pop's - Sauget, IL
06/15/14 Vic Theatre - Chicago, IL
06/17/14 The Fillmore - Silver Spring, MD
06/18/18 House of Blues - Boston, MA
06/19/14 Sound Academy - Toronto, ON - CANADA
06/20/14 Amnesia Rock Fest - Montebello, QC - CANADA
06/21/14 Best Buy Theater - New York, NY

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Did some research to find info on the competition. Here's what we're up against:

-8 votes : Big dreams, little talent
-7 votes : m2 50 cal kills a target WOOT!
-7 votes : Fred Goes to The Doctor (downvoting is cool)
-7 votes : Questions for Statists

I'd like to try to double the current bizarro #1 video and get to -16. If any video deserves it, this is it.

Is animated Ricky a descendant Fred Flintstone? Who knew?

You just....shouldn't have had to do that and I apologize on behalf of the entire sift.

Fred Rogers was and is and forever will be, the ultimate shit.

Hi Fred! You've been gifted a 30 day charter membership by a rock star of a sifter. Enjoy!

it b *dead fred

"Such Hawks Such Hound..." This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Long Song Pictures LLC.

Foot-powered....ya missed it-

@BicycleRepairMan-He's using some dense, seasoned hickory, I'm thinking the material's grain and density covers a good portion of the Fred Flintstony design integrity. This isn't the standard Windsor-style rocker for frail, featherlight granny-asses either-This is a brick-shithouse, truck-driver's-ass, Rockerthing.

"Satanists" perform gay ritual on Fred Phelp's mother's grave.

Would be more accurate.

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Satanists that object to Fred Phelps. Right.

Who the hell is named "Fred Whistleblower"... oh

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