like how they use the ForaTV music around 3:40 or so.
Cool sift!

>> ^ForgedReality:

Bullets are inexpensive. The rich are not. VIVA LA REVOLUTION!


Revolution will never happen. Americans en mass have been molded into complacency and largely to stupid to realize it. Beyond that if we did, we wouldn't be able to agree on the goal, especially when a large chunk of Americans have been mindfucked by conservatives to believe the rich deserve to pay less taxes and should keep what they achieved (read: inherited), that income redistribution is BAD (unless it's from the poor/middle class to the rich, which is fantastic) and have been spoon-fed some crazy ass propaganda (socialism is the devil!).

I mean, just googleing 'how does the average republican feel about income inequality' and I get some juicy quotes strait from the horses mouth. Lovely bits like;

"Those screaming to share the wealth are usually the uneducated and lazy. That's a fact."

"I have no interest in stealing from people so that individuals on the lower rung of the ladder don't "feel" as bad because they have less than someone else."

You just have to love how mindfucked these people are and they just don't even realize it.

>> ^hpqp:

Great speaker, and great writer too.
Seriously, who needs more than 2mio$ a year? Geez!!


What are you talking about? With what am I supposed to paint my giraffes on the diamond yacht other than the wonderful green color of mashed dollar bills?
2mio a year do you have ANY idead how long their freaking necks are?

I'm not disagreeing with you, but I'm going to argue it in a different way and see if it changes your opinion.

I believe the war is maintained not for our safety, not for other nations safety, not to catch terrorists, not to prevent anything, but to directly funnel money into corporate pockets and in turn the very same people who support the war going on via donations and lobbyists.

Now, these same people are more than willing to cut benefits of teachers, government unions, and also seem to keep bringing up social security/medicare/medicaid. Plus the other myriad of programs they want to cut or eliminate........or PRIVATIZE, which is their word for turning public facilities to private gains that the government still has to pay for but has a company squatting over taking profits off the top of everything.

Now, here's where my other argument comes in. What if the tax rate was high enough on every person in these little "money circle jerks" that they couldn't keep enough of it to make it worthwhile and still bribe/donate to people?

I mean look at the ForaTV top15 video right now where he says in the 50s people making over 200k were taxed at 91 percent, so that would basically mean that making 2 million today would be the cut off for the sub 91 percent rate.

It would mean that people getting bribed and making in excess of a million dollars would need more bribe money to get the same benefit. It would mean people doing the bribing would have less money to bribe with.

I mean let's put it this way:

If you were working a job making 100 grand a year. New tax law comes in and now they want to take 75% of earnings after 100 grand. It would effectively make it so that you earning more money at your job would result in almost no benefit to you, so now money is off the table as an effective bargaining tool to use with you. That leaves other things to take into consideration when the money can't really be factored in anymore, and for politicians the only other things I can imagine as bargaining tools would be giving them houses/cars/etc and offering them jobs after their political career.....where they would be limited by the tax rates on their earnings. It'd make me a lot less willing to be a dirtbag if I could only make 1 million dollars versus the 60 some odd million some of these CEOs are getting without the majority of it being taken in taxes.


>> ^blankfist:

>> ^messenger:
>> ^blankfist:
I'm still not sure why people think taxing income is okay. And I'm speaking about federal income tax, not state and local. I think in times like this when the country is running record deficits, it should cut spending instead of looking elsewhere for more money.

So you understand there's a deficit, and the only way to reduce it is increase income (taxes), and/or reduce spending (cuts). Take a look at where the spending cuts are going to come from, and then decide if you want those cuts to be made. Cronyism, imperialism, war and all those other things we both hate are what the government does for fun. Until a true statesman is elected, they're never going to be cut. So what will get cut instead? Things that actually benefit the people living in the country. I'm not American so I don't know what your federal government provides in that regard, but either you're glad those services exist and are happy to pay for them with your taxes, or you need to include them in the list of things you'd like to have cut.

This is the part I don't understand. Yes, there are services that are useful, but the majority of what they spend their money on are immoral things I disagree with that put our lives in jeopardy over here. Wars and occupation have made us less safe. I don't care that they spend some of the money on things I agree with. They spend the most of it on things I don't.
I voluntarily support the ACLU, but if they started drowning kittens, I'd most likely pull my money from them. This is the ideological discussion we should be having about government right now. They're spending more than we as the people can afford and yet both parties are refusing to cut defense spending.
If we cut a large portion of our defense spending (the portion that puts us in overseas entanglements) we might be able to balance the budget and cut income tax completely. Why aren't we having that discussion instead of being defeatists about what the government will cut? Because people in favor of raising taxes are scared that cutting income tax may lead to less entitlement programs, so they're willing to bomb people over it. That's why.

It would still be bullshit, other industrialized nations get better service than we do and pay less for it. If our telecos are in such debt it's more likely due to their own mismanagement than anything the consumers did.
Most of the uber-wealthy do think they're pulling their own weight, they think they are some of the hardest working people on the planet. Many of them are also delusional narcissists.
>> ^calmlyintoit:

How do we get to a place in the US where most of us realize we all have to pull our own weight, including the fabulously uber-wealthy?

>> ^calmlyintoit:
How do we get to a place in the US where most of us realize we all have to pull our own weight, including the fabulously uber-wealthy?



Thumbscrews in the dungeon.

Your video, ForaTV: American Income Inequality Off the Rails, has made it into the Top 15 New Videos listing. Congratulations on your achievement. For your contribution you have been awarded 1 Power Point.

You have to buy a $60 pass to the site to watch it unfortunately. >> ^Yogi:

Obama put forth a bill that will Tax the rich...lets see how that goes down.
EDIT: Full Talk somewhere?

Full Program from ForaTV:

[Update]

Added:

• Comedy Central


• MySpace


• DailyMotion


• VideoJug


• Revver


• Yahoo!


• Vimeo

• ForaTV


• vSocial


• The Onion

Damn, twiddles. Nice work. Thanks a lot.

The Break one we had covered but the other two are excellent additions. Way to dig sift into those things. I'd applaud your contributions more if I could.

For the record, all the hosts for which we are currently able to find thumbnails are:

• YouTube


• Google


• MetaCafe


• iFilm


• LiveLeak


• Break

• VideoJug


• Comedy Central

• MySpace


• The Onion


• DailyMotion


• Revver


• Vimeo


• Yahoo!


• vSocial


• ForaTV