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#obscure is for "video clips from the music, animation and movie world".

#meme is for shit like all these nyan cat videos that are flooding in lately.

#lies, oddly enough, is not for lies, but rather for truthiness. There's some questionable nonsense in this video, but nothing which I would say definitely fits.

But I feel like this video has done more to put me in a trance than anything by Obama. Then again, maybe that just means Obama is better at it.

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>> ^alien_concept:

I wasn't saying that it wouldn't be better all round if people explained why, when they have an opinion on something, I just think calling someone out on it and accusing them of being a typical internet opinion-wielder, might have been a bit strong under the circumstances...
And I wouldn't say I'm defeatist either, just perhaps less passionate


"Typical internet opinion-wielder"

Hmm, you may be right. That was WAAAAAY over the top, wasn't it? <shakes fist and screams toward the ceiling> How can I ever live this shame down? HOW??

Just havin' some fun.

I disagree with you again, of course, as I think my words were quite tame and also quite true.

Such that no one can call me a hypocrite, let me illustrate why being able to explain yourself is always a good thing: I recently watched a shitload of the Election08 channel videos and sort of re-experienced the great entertainment value that the election actually was. If you have a couple hours to kill, I highly recommend doing the same.

There are two sifts from this collection I'd like to introduce into evidence, your honors.

1) http://videosift.com/video/Joe-the-Plumber-Wont-Explain-Death-to-Israel-Remarks
2) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nokTjEdaUGg (Sarah Palin on Russia)

Video 1 features Joe the Plumber asserting that a vote for Obama means death to Israel. Fox Host Shepard Smith tries to get Joe to explain himself a bit further but he is ultimately unsuccessful.

Video 2 is the famous "Well, it certainly does" comment. Couric presses Palin to explain exactly why Alaska's proximity to Russia has provided her with foreign policy credentials.

In both videos, one can easily recognize the flaccid attempts to justify outlandish assertions. Do you think a well-reasoned response on the part of either of them would have helped or harmed their respective cases? For Joe the Plumber, it's particularly embarrassing because he freely admits that he "knows just enough to probably be dangerous." At the very least, Palin provided some explanation, laughable and transparent (and plenty of both) though it was. Had either Joe the Plumber or Ms. Palin provided explanations, even ones that merely grazed at the periphery of sense, the GOP might have been placed in a different position, election-wise.

If you haven't yet gotten the point, let me say that the assignment of an opinion as "valid" or "invalid" is independent of agreement with the opinion. The deciding factor? Whether an opinion is backed-up in an effective way. The fact that one may not be able to (because it's "just a feeling" they get) is rather the whole point, isn't it?

I recently watched all the popular vids in the Election08 channel. Sarah Palin was a cherished part of what was, by far, the most entertaining election in my lifetime. I recommend going back and re-watching them for a hoot and a holler.

I really really hope she's a part of the 2012 election in some way. Not even kidding.

Comment hidden because you are ignoring dag. (show it anyway)

We've been through the wringer a couple times on the tech channel concept - the upshot is that it's very, very broad - and almost all cases covered by geek. I'd rather not go down that path again.>> ^Hybrid:

I think there are other channels that should be renamed/clarified too.
I mentioned the 'geek' channel above... but also catsanddogs, should that not become animals, as it basically encapsulates them all right now? Should a video of an elephant go into catsanddogs? If not, maybe animals would be a good channel to have?
@dag and @MarineGunrock, what are your current thoughts on a tech channel?
>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:
While were at it. Maybe waronterror should go away, since it's a relic propaganda term from the Bush era and we already have a military channel.
Also, election08 should become elections and joedirt should change his screenname to Mr. Belvadere.

I think there are other channels that should be renamed/clarified too.

I mentioned the 'geek' channel above... but also catsanddogs, should that not become *animals, as it basically encapsulates them all right now? Should a video of an elephant go into catsanddogs? If not, maybe *animals would be a good channel to have?

@dag and @MarineGunrock, what are your current thoughts on a *tech channel?
>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:

While were at it. Maybe waronterror should go away, since it's a relic propaganda term from the Bush era and we already have a military channel.
Also, election08 should become elections and joedirt should change his screenname to Mr. Belvadere.

I liked *tech back when mg first suggested it. If you can get his blessing - and dags - you should be able to have the channel, imo. Middle East would be good too.

While were at it. Maybe * waronterror should go away, since it's a relic propaganda term from the Bush era and we already have a military channel.

Also, election08 should become *elections and joedirt should change his screenname to Mr. Belvadere.

Quite funny. Doesn't fit in the election08 channel, though.

I have a problem with it, because I don't see why this should be in that category. There, I brought it.
>> ^BoneRemake:

a section of myself wants to put this in the election08 channel.
So if you got a problem with it, Bring it.