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The Brokenhagen COP15 Fail by Dr. Seuss

lullaby_lune (Member Profile)

thepinky says...

Very cool of you to say so. Thanks.

In reply to this comment by lullaby_lune:
Hey there,
I'm in and out of the Sift, so I'm just now taking a look at some of the comments on my Dr. Seuss Bible post. I wanted to thank you for your comment (about a month ago, now) mentioning how very unfunny a Crucifixion Machine actually is.

The video definitely has some dark humour.. that I wasn't quite sure how to take myself. (You might have noticed my caption) So I mostly preferred to present the video as-is and let other people decide for themselves how they were going to take it.

I love seeing the different styles and methods people use to retell stories - and yes, that includes sacred texts. Sadly, as you said, some people are too "eager to mock Christianity" to notice the cruelty in what was being presented. While I'm certainly glad a lot of people appreciated the humour in the video, I'm equally glad someone spoke out about the cruelty of it too.

So thanks!

thepinky (Member Profile)

lullaby_lune says...

Hey there,
I'm in and out of the Sift, so I'm just now taking a look at some of the comments on my Dr. Seuss Bible post. I wanted to thank you for your comment (about a month ago, now) mentioning how very unfunny a Crucifixion Machine actually is.

The video definitely has some dark humour.. that I wasn't quite sure how to take myself. (You might have noticed my caption) So I mostly preferred to present the video as-is and let other people decide for themselves how they were going to take it.

I love seeing the different styles and methods people use to retell stories - and yes, that includes sacred texts. Sadly, as you said, some people are too "eager to mock Christianity" to notice the cruelty in what was being presented. While I'm certainly glad a lot of people appreciated the humour in the video, I'm equally glad someone spoke out about the cruelty of it too.

So thanks!

The Dr. Seuss Bible - Kids in the Hall

poolcleaner says...

>> ^thepinky:
^Oh, please.
To my most honorable fellow sifters,
Your ability to so easily lump all of Christianity into one great steaming pile of idiocy is amazing. It's as if you've figured it all out, and you're so sure that you're right that you delight in mocking people who don't agree with you. Humor is one thing, but people have repeatedly admitted that the point of this video is to deal a blow to Christians through mockery. Disdain and disrespect are not admirable traits, especially when you should just be admitting to yourself and everyone else that you know as little about the universe as the next idiot.
>> ^thinker247:
Yeah, because mockery denounces something for its idiocy, while reverence shows respect for its idiocy.
>> ^thepinky:
Call me crazy, but I think that there is a big difference between mockery and reverence.



The next idiot is exactly the point.

The Dr. Seuss Bible - Kids in the Hall

thepinky says...

^Oh, please.

To my most honorable fellow sifters,

Your ability to so easily lump all of Christianity into one great steaming pile of idiocy is amazing. It's as if you've figured it all out, and you're so sure that you're right that you delight in mocking people who don't agree with you. Humor is one thing, but people have repeatedly admitted that the point of this video is to deal a blow to Christians through mockery. Disdain and disrespect are not admirable traits, especially when you should just be admitting to yourself and everyone else that you know as little about the universe as the next idiot.

>> ^thinker247:
Yeah, because mockery denounces something for its idiocy, while reverence shows respect for its idiocy.
>> ^thepinky:
Call me crazy, but I think that there is a big difference between mockery and reverence.

The Dr. Seuss Bible - Kids in the Hall

Ornthoron (Member Profile)

hpqp (Member Profile)

thepinky says...

There's a difference between reverence for a martyr by wearing a crucifix and mockery of him. Based on your explanation of the crucifixion of Jesus Christ, I believe that you have a limited understanding of the doctrine of the Atonement. I agree that many people's definition of Christianity is absurd, but I am annoyed by people who don't really understand the gospel as it was taught by Jesus Christ, and yet they feel entitled to look down upon and mock believers.

In reply to this comment by hpqp:
In reply to this comment by thepinky:
You're all so eager to mock Christianity that I think you failed to notice how perverse this is. I wonder what's funny about a crucifixion machine. Considering the hundreds of thousands of people that were brutally and indiscriminately murdered in that way, both in the ancient and modern world, a crucifixion machine is about as funny as gas chambers and guillotines. At least gas chambers and guillotines are quick, whereas crucifixion is prolonged torture. Yeah. Hilarious.

Crucifixion was horrible torture, true. So: how many people have you seen lately wearing mini guillotines around the necks, or praying in front of mock gas chambers? How many people do you know, on the other hand, who worship an omniscient god who sent his son/self to get brutally tortured and murdered as a scapegoat for his believers?
Despite christianity's absurdity, millions still believe in it. Sometimes the absurd can only be tackled with more absurd. It's called satire.

The Dr. Seuss Bible - Kids in the Hall

The Dr. Seuss Bible - Kids in the Hall

Ornthoron says...

>> ^thepinky:
You're all so eager to mock Christianity that I think you failed to notice how perverse this is. I wonder what's funny about a crucifixion machine. Considering the hundreds of thousands of people that were brutally and indiscriminately murdered in that way, both in the ancient and modern world, a crucifixion machine is about as funny as gas chambers and guillotines. At least gas chambers and guillotines are quick, whereas crucifixion is prolonged torture. Yeah. Hilarious.


Gas chambers and guillotines can also be funny, if you're not averse to a little black humor, and if it is done in a respectful way. If we are going to talk about negative connotation, we might consider the appropriateness of Christianity to have an infamous torture device as its main symbol.

thepinky (Member Profile)

hpqp says...

In reply to this comment by thepinky:
You're all so eager to mock Christianity that I think you failed to notice how perverse this is. I wonder what's funny about a crucifixion machine. Considering the hundreds of thousands of people that were brutally and indiscriminately murdered in that way, both in the ancient and modern world, a crucifixion machine is about as funny as gas chambers and guillotines. At least gas chambers and guillotines are quick, whereas crucifixion is prolonged torture. Yeah. Hilarious.

Crucifixion was horrible torture, true. So: how many people have you seen lately wearing mini guillotines around the necks, or praying in front of mock gas chambers? How many people do you know, on the other hand, who worship an omniscient god who sent his son/self to get brutally tortured and murdered as a scapegoat for his believers?
Despite christianity's absurdity, millions still believe in it. Sometimes the absurd can only be tackled with more absurd. It's called satire.

The Dr. Seuss Bible - Kids in the Hall

bcglorf says...

>> ^Drachen_Jager:
BCglorf;
That's a silly comparison. It's like saying it's OK to go around hitting people randomly with a stick because there's other people out there who murder and rape. Simply being not as bad as the other guy does not free you of moral obligations.


One of the 'big' issues in Canada is wearing veils when voting. We have Islamic lobby's complaining it is a violation of their rights to be forced to reveal their faces in order to verify their identity and be allowed to vote. It's about the 'strongest' example of 'christian' repression that comes to mind in Canada right now, so I think my analogy was quite appropriate. The fact our own comedians were doing this back in the 90's should suggest that at least our country truly does respect freedom of and from religion.

The Dr. Seuss Bible - Kids in the Hall

lullaby_lune (Member Profile)

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