I live in Cincinnati. The Butler and Warren counties have large populations, are full of conservative suburbs and middle-class middle-age white people fleeing the cities. Of course they went strongly for Bush over Kerry. Delaware County is the exact same thing, but for Columbus.

>> ^RFlagg:

This. I would love to move from the Canton/Massillon, Ohio area, but being poor makes it very hard. The place I live now costs $460 a month. That is for a nice 2 bedroom town house with a generous communal back yard in a nice child friendly neighborhood with some of the best schools in the state. How many places in the country (heck the state) can you find housing in such a nice area so cheap? Even in areas that pay more it usually doesn't overcome the higher housing costs when you are stuck in minimum to a couple bucks above minimum pay range... ($12k to $18k locally a year)
None of the places I would like to relocate to can get in those price ranges and still be out of the slums... heck most of the places I've considered can't even get into slums for those prices (Austin, Silicon Valley area, Arcata, Portland, Seattle, Fort Collins, Denver are the main US ones). And moving out of the country to New Zealand, Iceland, the UK, Netherlands and even Canada, is impossible since an overly expensive Associates degree means you don't have the skills any of those places would give you immigration.
Add to the housing expense the high price of actually moving...
>> ^Lann:
There are sometimes situations that makes fucking moving impossible.



Move somewhere else in Ohio. Cleveland, Cincinnati, or Columbus are going to be vastly better than Canton, and while they will be a little more expensive it won't be anything like going to California. There will be far more job opportunities, too. Then you can make another step up to something better.

>> ^ctrlaltbleach:

I'm afraid one of these days a prank like this will end badly.


I'm waiting for some poor sap to get beheaded/shot/stabbed/runover because he was a really effective zombie.

Thank you!
In reply to this comment by mintbbb:
Yay, *promote pranking in my home town :

http://gotopless.org/topless-laws

According to the above link, there's a whole list of titty-friendly states, including my own!
The following cities are officially topless "tested"(lived in 3 of em!):

Asheville, NC
Austin, TX,
Boulder, CO
Columbus, OH
Eugene, OR
Honolulu, HI
Keene, NH
Key West, FL at Fantasy Fest
Madison, WI,
New Orleans, LA, at Mardi Gras
New York City
Portland, Or,
Santa Fe, NM
South Miami Beach, FL (on the beach)
Washington, DC

Moira is such a cool name! Best ideas for names for babies come from reading headstones in historic graveyards..

quoting @Chaucer prior to him editing his post:

"Its not racism. Let me give you a hypothetical example that you might be able to understand. Say you are non-jewish but you grew up in an majority jewish community. All your life you were bullied by the jewish people and you've seen your friends bullied by jewish people. Then you see a video about jews and you say, "most jews are bullies" because thats all you know and what you've seen and experienced. You arent saying all jews are that way nor do you carry prejudice against them. Its just the life experience that person has gone through.

Same here. A prerequisite for racism is to say that all of them that way or to carry prejudice or discriminate against that race. Neither of which are in my statement nor intended to be in my statement."

I'm sorry, go look up the definition of racism. Nowhere does it add a caveat of "oh it's ok if your life experiences say otherwise" Your "life experiences" are anecdotal at best and that's ignoring the obvious derogatory slant you put on it. You're digging yourself a bigger hole as you hide behind logical fallacies:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anecdotal_evidence
and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance

Your "life experiences" mean absolutely dick when it comes to actual facts and logic. Prior to Columbus, it was "life experience" that said the world was flat. It was "life experience" that the earth was the center of the universe. It was "life experience" that said slavery was acceptable.

Tags for this video have been changed from 'Bill Maher, real time, new rules' to 'new rules, fifty shades of grey, christoga, columbus, toilet paper, ted nugent' - edited by xxovercastxx

>> ^raverman:

So... The First True American

Columbus wasn't a true American, the people he killed and/or enslaved when he got there were.

Well and of course we know #1 actually can be continued as for some reason there seemed to already be people there.

So in fact they probably found it first a LONG time ago up by Alaska's volcanic chain via the Russia/Alaska land-bridge that would have existed there for a time; plus someone would have to fill me in but I'm not entirely sure where the Polynesians "may" fit into all of this--as I know they were also known to be GREAT seamen and went very far on extremely small vessels (the ones I'm thinking of you actually have your legs in the water and it carries about six people and is designed sort of like an odd Catamaran)--Hawaii for example was settled into by 300-500 CE. Then the Vikings in Greenland, Canada, and North America (I think just Maine and a few points in Newfoundland--they also didn't stick around for long in these areas as they left these "western" camps to go back to Greenland for the winter). Finally, Columbus made it who sailed around The Caribbean a bit (basically Cuba then Haiti I think; if I remembered right--after coming from the Canary Islands).

There may even be more history to it as unfortunately we know how history is written AND if you don't have that much of a language and worse no paper or way to reference or keep track of old material, telling your story becomes VERY hard as it was never recorded in the first place. All we have left is archeology to help guide us to these newer, more exact figures and finders.

BUT, Columbus did find the first real trade route for 15th century Europe to a "New World", one that had its own spices and plenty of bounty, and THAT is what meant everything. THIS is what people should remember, not that he found it first or the round Earth garbage--that is just bad teachers and even worse (as I READ THEM) terrible history books!

Columbus never set foot on North America either.

So there's that...

So... The First True American:
Argued that the scientific advice of the time was a'myth', refused to accept standard scientific measurement, and brashly set off to foreign destinations to try to prove false information to be correct.

Next you'll tell me Columbus was a fanatical right wing conservative christian, hated any form of taxation, and thought the Spanish military was too small and needed significant over investment.

I'm heartbroken to learn this. Levon has been struggling with his health for so many years now perhaps it can be seen as a blessing that the end is near . He will be dearly missed. I was in the wings during the 25th anniversary reunion of Little Feat's Waiting For Columbus album at the Lisner Theater in 2007. Ten feet away, Levon was double drumming with the late, great Richie Hayward ... they were like two little kids trading riffs and grinning from ear to ear. I just know Richie is waiting with open arms to welcome his dear friend to the big jam session in the great beyond. Go in peace Levon ... We love you.

As someone put it during the 2008 campaign, America is both the best and the worst country in the world when it comes to race.

The way I interpreted that was that we're probably the only country in the world where you could get a majority of the voting population to elect an ethnic minority for their highest political office. We're also one of the only places where people in Congress would pass around a picture of him photoshopped to look like a witch doctor, and insist he wasn't really born in America.

>> ^xxovercastxx:

On the one hand, Obama's election really put a stamp on how far the US has come in overcoming racism.
On the other hand, there's been a huge resurgence ever since or, at the very least, they've been emboldened somehow. I've seen and heard more racism in the last 4 years than in my previous 29 on the planet.

>> ^gwiz665:

Columbus...Ohio?

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