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How Hollywood Gets It Wrong On Torture

Farhad2000 says...

From Harpers Six Questions for Darius Rejali, Author of ‘Torture and Democracy’


3. In America today, the debate seems to focus on the efficacy of torture—whether it is a useful tool for getting at the truth. You note the flow from the Roman Ulpian, who accepts torture as something quite normal to be used in interrogation (though he does at some points express skepticism about its usefulness) to Cesare Beccaria, whose monumental denunciation of torture did so much to influence European ideas about torture and criminal justice in the eighteenth century. But today we seem stuck in a debate in which those who use torture are eager to try to justify themselves but unwilling to let a bright light shine into their conduct, ostensibly for national security reasons, though many will inevitably suspect that secrecy is driven by concerns for their own culpability. You offer up a very lengthy and nuanced discussion on the efficacy of torture, and in your Washington Post column on five myths you have pulled some chestnuts out of it. One of them is that “people will say anything under torture.” But isn’t the claim rather the way Shakespeare put it in act III of the ‘Merchant of Venice,’ that people will say what they think the torturer wants them to say? And doesn’t that explain why societies that put a premium on confessions like torture to extract them, and why al-Libi told the CIA about Saddam Hussein’s non-existent WMD plans? Don’t you think that the efficacy discussion has to address the broader consequences that a decision to use torture has to reputation, and conversely to the ability of a terrorist foe to recruit?


Yes, I do. During the Islamic Revolution in Iran, the Shah’s torture was the best recruiting tool the opposition had. Prisons were places where prisoners met each other and professionalized their skills, as I and others have documented. It feels like a nightmare watching American politicians make the same mistake as the Shah. I like to believe that with every mistake we must surely be learning, but sometimes it is hard to believe.

When I talked about people under torture saying anything, I was especially interested in the cases where torturers interrogate for true information. That’s what I document doesn’t work. But it seems pretty clear that torture works to generate false confessions, which serve equally as well as true confessions for many state purposes. When judges and juries value confessions as decisive proof, police are happy to generate confessions for convictions. This can happen in domestic crime, as it happened in Chicago in the 1980s where African Americans were sentenced to death on the basis of coerced confessions. They’re also good for international show trials, trials that exonerate the state’s failures. Stalin wanted show trials to demonstrate that terrorists and saboteurs caused his failures, and he wasn’t the last leader who liked show trials to vindicate his decisions. And lastly, states use false confessions as blackmail to turn prisoners into unwilling informants. Torture allows one to collect dependent and insular individuals, spreading a net of fear across a population. This can happen locally (as in a ghetto) or in a whole state, like East Germany.

It’s also true that torturers often hear what they want to hear. In fact that’s one of the big problems with torture that I document in the book and the “Five Myths” article. Even if torture could actually break a person and they told you the truth, the torturer has to recognize it was the truth, and too often that doesn’t happen because torturers come into a situation with their own assumptions and don’t believe the victim. Moreover, intelligence gathering is especially vulnerable to deception. In police work, the crime is already known; all one wants is the confession. In intelligence, one must gather information about things that one does not know.

And let’s remember, torturers aren’t chosen for intelligence; they are chosen for devotion and loyalty, and they are terrible at spotting the truth when they see it. In the “Five Myths” piece I talk about how the Chilean secret service lost valuable information in that way when they broke Sheila Cassidy, an English doctor, and she told them everything but they didn’t believe her. And one can just repeat dozens of stories like this. My favorite is when Senator John McCain tried to explain the concept of Easter to his North Vietnamese torturer. “We believe there was a guy who walked the earth, did great things, was killed and three days later, he rose from the dead and went up to heaven.” His interrogator was puzzled and asked him to explain it again and again. He left, and when he came back, he was angry and threatened to beat him. Americans couldn’t possibly believe in “Easter” since no one lives again; McCain had to be making this up."

Eva Cassidy - Over the rainbow

8972 says...

It's hard for me to type this response with tears flowing from my eyes.
I discovered Eva Cassidy's music a few years back, featured on a CBC radio program, and was overwhelmed by her ability to convey such emotion and power in her singing. She was
a true gem...
Luckily we have her musical legacy preserved for all time. Truly an immense
talent, such as comes along only rarely.
An American songbird.
Thanks for posting this rare glimpse of her awesome beauty....truly appreciated
here.

-- lostonearth

Grizzly Adams

Goofball_Jones says...

This is when TV shows still were ripping off movies. This was a rip-off of "Jeremiah Johnson".

There were and still are a lot of rip-off shows. Like "Alias Smith & Jones" for "Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid" etc etc.

Eva Cassidy: Fields of Gold

rustybrooks says...

Man I love me some Eva Cassidy. Her version of Somewhere Over the Rainbow is one of the only ones I really love. Some other great songs of hers are "Wade in the Water" and "Ain't no sunshine"

The Agony of Defeat Guy - Where Is He Now?

silvercord says...

Not surprised snaremoppet. It happened 23 years before you were born. However, week after week after week after week after . . . well, you get the idea . . . Vinko Bogataj was the most viewed athlete in the world. Like Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid, people were asking, "who is that guy?" He is a legend in the States and for those who watch ABC sports and for the people in his homeland.

Now . . . you know!

Star Wars: Pimped

Treasure! Jim Henson and Kermit on "What's My Line?"

silvercord says...

Jim Henson & Kermit's appearance on "What's My Line?" hosted by Larry Blyden, aired on November 16, 1974.

Panelists here include Arlene Francis, Dr. Joyce Brothers, Jack Cassidy and Soupy Sales. The following mystery guest was Dick Cavett.

Oh! And . . . Kermit sings, "It's Not Easy Being Green."



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