There is something that deeply disturbs me about this
There are 2 issues that have been brought up, Social Security and Extending the Bush Tax Cuts

This video implies a guilt by association by associating the Social Security problems with the Bush Tax Cuts. The Bush Tax Cuts is an easy stab at the Republicans, but the video is tying it together with Social Security to imply something more sinister like a "Rich stealing from the poor" scenario.

The problem with Social Security is that people live longer, not something that was taken into account when it was first passed. At the time it was a better idea when people didn't live so long and would therefore not receive very many years of Social Security payout, but as time and Medical Advances went on, the years of Payment grew longer. So now Social Security has been something that the Nation has come to Depend on (which I must say is also implied in the video). To take it away would be a problem, but to throw more money at it would be a problem as well. Taking it away would create a scenario where those that had payed for it All or a Part of their Lives lose the Promised Benefit, and those who transitioned to the lifestyle of social security are Suddenly Forced to change their lifestyle of something they have come to Depend on. Putting more money into it creates a situation where a larger share of money per paycheck will be required keep another program at status quo. Essentially its an added tax with No Benefit, say for if its not payed then money will be needed from other programs so if you don't pay up someone is gonna lose something. The other situation involves Taking more money from Elsewhere and putting it into social security, the problem is that as more people enter social security for longer periods of time, the payout Required by the government Grows higher and higher meaning that more money has to be taken out of other areas of funding in order to maintain status quo.

The other type of option is to change the requirements of social security. Raising the age is quite plausible as it Reduces the length and to a certain extent, the number of people needing it (They die before they can get to the required age). The problem with that is, well one they can die before they can get to the required age and they have to work for longer periods of time at an age that may or may not be (I do not know this part) as effective. The deaths can at least be Balanced since the average age is increasing, there are always deaths before reaching even the earlier ages so this becomes Less of a factor. But the effectiveness of working 70 year-olds is unknown to me.

>> ^gwiz665:

>> ^gorillaman:
>> ^xxovercastxx:
There really aren't any good guys in WH40K, though I'd say the Eldar are the most innocent.
>> ^gorillaman:
Also, the Imperium are not the good guys.


Exactly, though the Eldar are as xenophobic and ruthless as anyone else. The Tau are the obvious candidates as heroes - they're young, innovative, and they've got that underdog thing going, almost an idealised, progressive human race; but look closer and they're an ultra-communist slave society, aggressive and coercive in getting other races to join their Empire. If any race can claim innocence it can only be the Orks. They just dig fighting, and don't understand that other people don't like having their limbs hacked off.

Necrons are the only good guys.
"You can die, or you can run then die."


Aw, all Necrons want is to regain their galaxy of simple purity. Or rather I should say, all the C'Tan want. At least they want to exterminate Chaos.

>> ^gorillaman:

>> ^xxovercastxx:
There really aren't any good guys in WH40K, though I'd say the Eldar are the most innocent.
>> ^gorillaman:
Also, the Imperium are not the good guys.


Exactly, though the Eldar are as xenophobic and ruthless as anyone else. The Tau are the obvious candidates as heroes - they're young, innovative, and they've got that underdog thing going, almost an idealised, progressive human race; but look closer and they're an ultra-communist slave society, aggressive and coercive in getting other races to join their Empire. If any race can claim innocence it can only be the Orks. They just dig fighting, and don't understand that other people don't like having their limbs hacked off.


Necrons are the only good guys.

"You can die, or you can run then die."

He actually asks if she was okay after all that? People can die falling down a full set of stairs, and he's the dumb fuck that made it happen.

Stupid shit bag.

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Care Versus Control
Thomas Sowell
Tuesday, August 04, 2009

As someone who was once rushed to a hospital in the middle of the night, because of taking a medication that millions of people take every day without the slightest problem, I have a special horror of life and death medical decisions being made by bureaucrats in Washington, about patients they have never laid eyes on.

On another occasion, I was told by a doctor that I would have died if I had not gotten to him in time, after an allergic reaction to eating one of the most healthful foods around. On still another occasion, I was treated with a medication that causes many people big problems and was urged to come back to the hospital immediately if I had a really bad reaction. But I had no reaction at all, went home, felt fine and slept soundly through the night.

My point is that everybody is different. Millions of children eat peanut butter sandwiches every day but some children can die from eating peanut butter. Some vaccines and medications that save many lives can also kill some people.

Are decisions made by doctors who have treated the same patient for years to be over-ruled by bureaucrats sitting in front of computer screens in Washington, following guidelines drawn up with the idea of "bringing down the cost of medical care"?

The idea is even more absurd than the idea that you can add millions of people to a government medical care plan without increasing the costs. It is also more dangerous.

What is both dangerous and mindless is rushing a massive new medical care scheme through Congress so fast that members of Congress do not even have time to read it before voting on it. Legislation that is far less sweeping in its effects can get months of hearings before Congressional committees, followed by debates in the Senate and the House of Representatives, with all sorts of people voicing their views in the media and in letters to Congress, while ads from people on both sides of the issue appear in newspapers and on television.

If this new medical scheme is so wonderful, why can't it stand the light of day or a little time to think about it?

The obvious answer is that the administration doesn't want us to know what it is all about or else we would not go along with it. Far better to say that we can't wait, that things are just too urgent. This tactic worked with whizzing the "stimulus" package through Congress, even though the stimulus package itself has not worked.

Any serious discussion of government-run medical care would have to look at other countries where there is government-run medical care. As someone who has done some research on this for my book "Applied Economics," I can tell you that the actual consequences of government-controlled medical care is not a pretty picture, however inspiring the rhetoric that accompanies it.

Thirty thousand Canadians are passing up free medical care at home to go to some other country where they have to pay for it. People don't do that without a reason.

But Canadians are better off than people in some other countries with government-controlled medical care, because they have the United States right next door, in case their medical problems get too serious to rely on their own system.

But where are Americans to turn if we become like Canada? Where are we to go when we need better medical treatment than Washington bureaucrats will let us have? Mexico? The Caribbean?

Many people do not understand that it is not just a question of whether government bureaucrats will agree to pay for particular medical treatments. The same government-control mindset that decides what should and should not be paid for can also decide that the medical technology or pharmaceutical drugs that they control should not be for sale to those who are willing to pay their own money.

Right now, medications or treatments that have not been approved by the Food and Drug Administration are medications or treatments that you are not allowed to buy with your own money, no matter how desperate your medical condition, and no matter how many years these medications or treatments may have been used without dire effects in other countries.

The crucial word is not "care" but "control."

Socialized medicine sucks.

The US Postmaster General is now weeping to Congress that the PO has "run out of money". The USPO is a government-monopoly that claims it can no longer deliver the mail 6 days a week and wants to cut back.

Are American liberals now demanding Post Office-quality bureaucracies run the 14% of the US economy health care represents? Do they want FEMA-quality bureaucrats deciding whether your heart operation is in the budget?

The following is from a 1992 article about Canadian health care. How much worse it is today?

"Canada has had socialized medicine for 20 years, and the same pattern of deteriorating facilities, overburdened doctors, and long hospital waiting lists is clear. A quarter of a million Canadians (out of a population of only 26 million) are now on waiting lists for surgery. The average waiting period for elective surgery is four years. Women wait up to five months for Pap smears and eight months for mammograms. Since 1987, the entire country spent less money on hospital improvements than the city of Washington, D.C., which has a population of only 618,000. As a result, sophisticated diagnostic equipment is scarce in Canada and growing scarcer. There are more MRIs (magnetic resonance imagers) in Washington State, which has a population of 4.6 million, than in all of Canada, which has a population of 26 million.

"In Canada, as in Britain under socialized medicine, patients are denied care, forced to cope with increasingly antiquated hospitals and equipment, and can die while waiting for treatment. Canada controls health care costs the same way Britain and Russia do: by denying modern treatment to the sick and letting the severely ill and old die.

"Despite standards far below those of the United States, when variables such as America’s higher crime and teenage pregnancy rates are factored out, and when concealed government overhead costs are factored in, Canada spends as high a percentage of its GNP on health care as the United States. Today a growing chorus of Canadians, including many former champions of socialized medicine, are calling for return to a market-based system."

I feel bad for the little thing. Mice, especially young ones, can die of shock or stress.

>> ^MycroftHomlz:
What he said... except the part about asphyxiation.
You have be in basically a sealed off room to die from helium. I have been working for cryogens for 9 years, and while I have always heard you can die from the gas it is a little ridiculous with helium. It is lighter than air so it will float to the top of the room and escape to the atmosphere.
Maybe us physics people are crazy, or it is the physical size of our magnets, or we just know how to fix them when they go bad... but I always just ramp the temperature when I want to kill the field. And you can ramp the current to change the field. This I have done.


Thing is, its not just helium thats doing the cooling.
A lot of MRI's also use Nitrogen to mediate the temperature between the helium / wire, and helium / atmosphere barrier to prevent cracks in the containment chamber, and unwanted condensation near the electronics.

If a quench occurs, it will release both gasses into the room in the event of a ventilation failure. If you enter the MRI room without leaving the door open, the pressure differential created by the quench can create enough force on the door to prevent you from opening it, causing you to be stuck in a room with a quickly diminishing supply of O2.

Thus...you die.

Always leave the door open when you are using the room.

Old guy can die happy now.

What he said... except the part about asphyxiation.

You have be in basically a sealed off room to die from helium. I have been working for cryogens for 9 years, and while I have always heard *you can die from the gas* it is a little ridiculous with helium. It is lighter than air so it will float to the top of the room and escape to the atmosphere.

Maybe us physics people are crazy, or it is the physical size of our magnets, or we just know how to fix them when they go bad... but I always just ramp the temperature when I want to kill the field. And you can ramp the current to change the field. This I have done.

Sorry, but the big 3 can go suck an egg. America is a Capitalist country. If someone else does it better, then you either adapt or die. They failed to adapt, now they can die and let someone else take their place. Yes, there will be hard times for a little while, but we'll recover like we always do, and along the way we'll learn more and better lessons than the ones we learned while having a triopoly.

Evolution is a harsh mistress.

This is coming from someone with relatives in the auto industry. My cousin is a mechanical engineer for GM, who supplies parts to companies worldwide. She'll find another job. The other companies will find other suppliers.

>> ^K0MMIE:
I like the HTML for this, way to sit there and spam F5 on a site with a premade non-filled out properly submission form.


Yes.

I got a zero punctuation video, now I can die happy.

I can't believe I'm upvoting a segment from "Fox And Friends." I guess I can die and go to Hell now.

>> ^jwray:
You presume that the price of food isn't going to go through the roof when the shit hits the fan. An average house could easily hold 20 cubic meters of grain, or other foodstuffs. In the worst case scenario, nearly everyone's top priority would be acquiring essential housing and food. Everything else is just a luxury.


No, I'm pretty sure he's accounting for that. When the dollar unit gets inflated and made less scarce, the price measured in those dollar units goes up by that debasement, including gold. That gold/oil chart I showed you earlier should have convinced you of that. The value of oil relative to gold never changed much, but both went up relative to dollars because that was what was being debased. Gold CAN'T be debased. You can't print 1 billion ounces of gold in a back room at the drop of a hat. You can do that with a fiat monetary unit. You can't do it with an inherently rare physical product which has to be mined from the Earth.

You're also not understanding what a depression is. It isn't armageddon in a vacuum. People are still employing each other and needing to pay each other, and trading with each other for a variety of products and services. Barter is ridiculously inefficient and cannot lead you back to the modern economy you once knew and stay there, you have to have money, a common means of exchange. In the Weimar hyperinflation of the 20s, many people were using cigarettes as money. Lastly, I tried to point out to you that food spoils, livestock requires upkeep and can die (lol, how'd you like to have your life savings in chickens wiped out by foxes, or a tornado, or disease), both are difficult to transport and have very high weight to value ratios, and frankly you can't hide them very well. If you hadn't paid someone to store it (provided you had what they wanted), someone could easily see you had craploads of wheat in your house (provided you had one) and raid it, killing you and your family. It is, after all, a depression full of desperate poor people. Not a smart idea. Or hey, what if there was a fire? Gold would survive it. Paper wouldn't, food wouldn't, oil wouldn't.

And imstellar, I appreciate your response and I generally think you have a good argument, but I think we need to focus on getting rid of the obvious first. It's a bit early to argue for voluntary taxation when we can't get rid of inflation and mandatory social programs for what should be market services. I find them unpalatable and dishonest relative to taxes.