>> ^Ryjkyj:

Climbing in through a window and angle-grinding two padlocks nets $5.3 million? WTF Sweden?


Well, not shown is when they used explosives to blow out a wall. Or when they placed fake bombs by the police helicopter pads to prevent them being used, or the Police still being in place outisde quickly but awaiting the taskforce before going in. You also forgot the helicopter and the nighttime landing on a very small (considering) roof.

So yeah, it was spectacular to be sure, but no where near as easy as this limited footage makes it look.

The terrible part about the whole G20 blow out is Chief Bill Blair will get burdened with most the blame, when it was the Head Mountie acting directly under Harper who was call all the shots. The chain of command is just starting to come out, and poor Chief Blair is about number three or four on the totem pole. He's a great cop, and got stuck in a shitty situation =(

Big fucking downvote for blowing out my eardrums, but mycroft is still fucking awesome.

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Yes, poor BP. They were in charge. And from what 60 minutes said - responsible for rushing the job, and sidestepping safety to get the oil up quicker.

>> ^malakai:

So making one of the largest global companies not to mention global employers cease to exist is good why? BP fucked up. Well actually no, a sub-contractor fucked up. It wasn't BP's rig that went bust. So why is BP being fucked up the arse so bad? Why isn't the company the rig was leased from being fucked? It was their rig that went boom, it was their well head equipment that failed, not BP's. It just seems to be "Oh BP is the company that owns the well, and they're really big and known, so lets say it was all BP".
I'm not saying that BP are saints, far from it. BP should have better environmental procedures in place to reduce the damage from a blow out such as this, not to mention they should have more effective methods to do so. They also should have started drilling relief wells, or at least set up relief wells, ASAP whilst faffing around with other possible solutions.
I guess i'm just pissed at the fact that BP is getting a massive amount of shit when it wasnt their equipment that fucked up, and the company who owns the fucked equipment barely gets mentioned and has seemed to have gotten away with murder.

So making one of the largest global companies not to mention global employers cease to exist is good why? BP fucked up. Well actually no, a sub-contractor fucked up. It wasn't BP's rig that went bust. So why is BP being fucked up the arse so bad? Why isn't the company the rig was leased from being fucked? It was their rig that went boom, it was their well head equipment that failed, not BP's. It just seems to be "Oh BP is the company that owns the well, and they're really big and known, so lets say it was all BP".

I'm not saying that BP are saints, far from it. BP should have better environmental procedures in place to reduce the damage from a blow out such as this, not to mention they should have more effective methods to do so. They also should have started drilling relief wells, or at least set up relief wells, ASAP whilst faffing around with other possible solutions.

I guess i'm just pissed at the fact that BP is getting a massive amount of shit when it wasnt their equipment that fucked up, and the company who owns the fucked equipment barely gets mentioned and has seemed to have gotten away with murder.

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Actually, I can't imagine they make enough volume of this component to do any statistically significant testing.

And BP is absolutely responsible for this disaster, good intentions or no. The final manufacturer or project owner has to take responsibility to ensure the quality of the components, parts, and modules that he buys. Especially since the risks are so high. The fact that they didn't put this fail safe on their rig looks very much like a financially driven decision.

But even if they did everything they could, it's still their fault. BP, and other oil companies, choose to gamble not only with their investors, but with our planet. And that is not hyperbole, as we now see. All of BP's money will not fix this disaster. They owe humanity a huge debt.

Also, I am sure that this has happened before with BP or others in the same business; I hope some journo is digging for other occurrences so we know the full score.

>> ^Mcboinkens:

>> ^enoch:
it was not a small random chance.
thats what BP would LOVE for you to view this disaster but in reality it was negligence and greed.
40 billion in profits last year and BP tried to save 500k.fuck BP in the ass with a razor blade dildo.
the reason why you have not seen this type of disaster in other developed countries is due to the fact they impose incredibly strict safety measures with hefty fines attached if not adhered to.
thanks to haliburton and its influence in american legislature no such requirements here in the states.
exxons valdez was tragic but that was an tanker and with that comes risk.THIS could have been avoided from the beginning all the way to a few days prior.
so while i would tend to agree with your assertion "accidents happen" not in this case..NOT ONE BIT..this could have and SHOULD have been avoided but..profit above all else right??
now you watch as BP will use its political might to squirm out of this disaster which will be felt for the next twenty years.
whole communities wiped out.eco-systems destroyed to a point they may never recover.
accidents happen right? what would you say if you understood this could have been avoided?
would you still be so flip?
because i know if i run into a BP executive i am kicking him in the balls.

You seem pretty confident. Prove it wasn't a small chance. Prove they don't go through an abundance of safety regulations. It's easy to hop on the hate boat when something bad happens, but do you really think that these companies are that stupid? Yes, they'll get a slightly larger profit if they cut some corners, but they weigh that against something like this happening and just reinforce standards. Crews go through extensive safety training. The equipment used out there is tested before deployment. To think otherwise is ignorant. It pisses me off even more than you seem to place all of the blame on BP. I'll say it once and I'll say it again: BP didn't manufacture that blow-out preventor. We don't know all of the details yet, but do you really think they would purposely put a faulty preventor out in a deep-ocean well?

Also, my rebuttal for it NOT being small, random chance. Basic statistics. The company that produced the BOP in question probably ran simple random samples on their final products. A sample taken from a large batch of BOP probably tested fine, even though this one, and possible many others, was able to get through their testing, due to small, and random chance.

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OK, sorry, just one more because it's so incredibly stupid:

"The amount of new technical information is doubling every two years..."

First off, I think that's unlikely, but even if it's true all it implies is that the amount of information available is growing faster each year. It certainly doesn't imply that:

"[thus] half of what [a student] learns in their first year will be outdated by their third year"

The original fact says nothing about new information replacing old information or about the relationship between new information and the total body of outstanding information. It's also mind-blowingly out of sync with reality. The biology I learned in my first year (and which you might learn in your first year of studying any new biotech program) hasn't changed 50% since the 1960s, let alone in two years. While new information might be being piled on faster and faster, it's being piled onto a tremendous mountain of existing material - and in most ways the new information represents just a polishing of what's already there.

I suppose it doesn't matter.. if the video gives you some sense of wonder or something that's great - but I really hate this kind of rah-rah pseudo-fact crap (and this exact kind of crap is all over in high schools right now, that I see anyway). It fosters an "everything is incredible/incomprehensible" sort of worldview that I see in a lot of very, very stupid people.

>> ^Mcboinkens:

>> ^BoneRemake:
"can someone fill me in on why the Blow out preventer did not work ? The B.O.P is in the picture, right above it its leaking, is the bop messed up or non functional or what ? "
Well I am glad I did not post that before watching it all. So mr BP president, WHY OH WHY THE HELL DIDNT THE BOP WORK ? thats the things main job.. thats it only job. When all is said and done and independent investigations are away with , I really hope that its not because of a old bop that bp just did not want to replace. They should have two blow out presenters then !


BP doesn't produce the Blow-out preventers, they just use the ones that were on Transoceans rig, which Transocean placed on their rig. If you are going to blame this all on a blowout preventor fail, find the source of who makes the BOP that was used on the rig. Not only that, but do you know how hard it is to simply replace a BOP when it is in that deep of water? Not to mention the fact that they didn't know it would not work. Many of the workers on those kind of rigs say that the rigs managed by BP are some of the safest in the industry.


As for another earlier comment, "Those amoral greedy motherfuckers at BP are STILL trying to deregulate offshore drilling practices, even in the Arctic where the environment is way more vulnerable to these kinds of disasters."
Can you provide some evidence? And if its true, I'm sure the entire industry feels the same way. Don't just pick one company.


Furthermore, this rig wasn't even BP's. It is owned by Transocean. BP was essentially renting it to help them drill the well. BP has spent millions of dollars trying to clean this up, because they felt it was their duty since they were renting it. Putting all the blame on them is unfair.


You're inadvertantly falling for their racket- BP rents the rig precisely because it allows them to minimize liability and provide a level of deniability for their responsibility when- and I do stress when- these types of disasters occur. It is very exactly fair to blame them for this catastrophe, but don't shed a tear for poor BP. The US's tax laws will allow them to write off every penny of the clean-up costs.

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"can someone fill me in on why the Blow out preventer did not work ? The B.O.P is in the picture, right above it its leaking, is the bop messed up or non functional or what ? "

Well I am glad I did not post that before watching it all. So mr BP president, WHY OH WHY THE HELL DIDNT THE BOP WORK ? thats the things main job.. thats it only job. When all is said and done and independent investigations are away with , I really hope that its not because of a old bop that bp just did not want to replace. They should have two blow out presenters then !

Seems to me you could blow out your O-ring by doing this.

Other vehicles will cut you off, animals and people will run out in front of you, tires will blow out, brake lines will break, ice and snow will accumulate, rocks and debris will kick up off the road or fall from other vehicles. You've got to be ready to react to all these situations calmly and logically. "I wasn't expecting that" won't save your life.
>> ^Stormsinger:
Yeah, it's not a big deal when you're expecting it. I'm guessing it might be a different story when it catches you by surprise in an emergency situation.

In reply to this comment by paul4dirt:
that's actually Johann Strauss "An der Schönen, Blauen Donau" Op.314

You are of course completely correct, I feel the complete fool. Fixed tags and title.

As repentance I have posted this for your musical edification, thanks... http://www.videosift.com/video/Herbert-von-Karajan-conducts-Strauss-Blue-Danube-Waltz