And I yours!

In reply to this comment by Fusionaut:
Lol, I should have just read your bio

In reply to this comment by calvados:
Just passing through, my fellow Canuck

In reply to this comment by Fusionaut:
Alas, I am not. I am from Alberta, Canada though, so the whole winter driving thing and living in a winter climate made me laugh. How about you? Or were you just visiting the U.P.?
In reply to this comment by calvados:
You a yooper, Fusionaut old son?

Lol, I should have just read your bio

In reply to this comment by calvados:
Just passing through, my fellow Canuck

In reply to this comment by Fusionaut:
Alas, I am not. I am from Alberta, Canada though, so the whole winter driving thing and living in a winter climate made me laugh. How about you? Or were you just visiting the U.P.?
In reply to this comment by calvados:
You a yooper, Fusionaut old son?

Just passing through, my fellow Canuck

In reply to this comment by Fusionaut:
Alas, I am not. I am from Alberta, Canada though, so the whole winter driving thing and living in a winter climate made me laugh. How about you? Or were you just visiting the U.P.?
In reply to this comment by calvados:
You a yooper, Fusionaut old son?

Alas, I am not. I am from Alberta, Canada though, so the whole winter driving thing and living in a winter climate made me laugh. How about you? Or were you just visiting the U.P.?
In reply to this comment by calvados:
You a yooper, Fusionaut old son?

Plus most of these dinners and fund raisers attracting the rich to cough up the dough are more about letting people know they donated. Whether it be other rich people or the general populace....they want it known that they were there to give away money. It's just another competition to most of them. Not that it matters as long as the charity gets the majority of the money being donated. But it's for the attention more than it is for the actual charity, most of em probably forget what the hell they are donating toward a week later.

>> ^GeeSussFreeK:

>> ^Skeeve:
Some geniuses at the University of Alberta in Edmonton do this every year to "Make Poverty History". Because renting a crane and buying a beat-up car and a huge pumpkin, then destroying them, really helps out those in need.

I used to think the same thing about celebrity dinners. But some people don't have the motivation to give otherwise, they have to be enticed. For most counts, I think the ends justifies the means, being that the ends in this case are not immoral. Having 100% of 0 isn't better than having 50% of any other number (that isn't negative)

>> ^Skeeve:

Some geniuses at the University of Alberta in Edmonton do this every year to "Make Poverty History". Because renting a crane and buying a beat-up car and a huge pumpkin, then destroying them, really helps out those in need.


It is promotion. To call attention to the issue. Up until you posted this, I didn't know they did that, nor did I know about that program. See? It is just raised my awareness on this issue.

>> ^Skeeve:

Some geniuses at the University of Alberta in Edmonton do this every year to "Make Poverty History". Because renting a crane and buying a beat-up car and a huge pumpkin, then destroying them, really helps out those in need.


I used to think the same thing about celebrity dinners. But some people don't have the motivation to give otherwise, they have to be enticed. For most counts, I think the ends justifies the means, being that the ends in this case are not immoral. Having 100% of 0 isn't better than having 50% of any other number (that isn't negative)

Some geniuses at the University of Alberta in Edmonton do this every year to "Make Poverty History". Because renting a crane and buying a beat-up car and a huge pumpkin, then destroying them, really helps out those in need.

>> ^kir_mokum:

dear alberta,
fuck you.


Oooh, oooh, ooohhh!

dear alberta,

fuck you.

Hey Winston,
Sorry a couple of points I was trying to make got a little muddled and mashed together in my last comment during editing before I rushed out to work. Including my math on 6x10.

What I told youabout my friends building a house and being off the grid is true. I know because they did it, and I've seen it. Their house is in Quebec, not some backhills somewhere. I've been there. They made me pizza.

Yeah, I'm sure that they're paying some interest on the loan they got to pay for it all up front, but they did it for less than $11,000. And fully installed by electricians. They're fully off the grid for electricity. They use a gas stove instead of electric, and they don't have a microwave, in order to cut down on power drain. But they have a fridge, lights, hot water, computers and everything else you would expect a family home to have.

I don't know where you got the rest of your figures. All I can tell you is what I've seen with my own eyes. And that the tomatoes on the pizza were grown in their vegetable garden, the pepperoni sausage came from the meat shop a 10 minute drive away, and it made for a memorable meal.



>> ^Winstonfield_Pennypacker:

600 square feet of panels is two 6'x5' panels on a rooftop--that isn't very big.
Elementary geometry says you need TWENTY 6'x5' panels to get 600 sq feet. Regardless, the issue is not the surface area per se but the COST to cover that much surface area. Photovolt panels are expensive, highly inefficient, and use toxic elements. They need maintainance, replacing, repair, and have a lifecycle. Same with the VERY expensive batteries you need to buy.
And it doesn't cost $50,000 per household.
Many estimates put the installation of a fully functional solar powered home at well over $50K. 660 sq ft costs $10,853 just for the panels using the cheapest product I could find. Then there is wiring, connectors, inverters, batteries, mounts, control panels, and monitors... The backhills of Alberta may be different, but in the U.S. it is highly illegal to install your own electrical system... You're looking at thousands in licensing, regulatory, and labor. $10K? Not on this planet.
But let's say you're super lucky and manage to get the whole shebang installed for only $25K somehow. [...]

600 square feet of panels is two 6'x5' panels on a rooftop--that isn't very big.

Elementary geometry says you need TWENTY 6'x5' panels to get 600 sq feet. Regardless, the issue is not the surface area per se but the COST to cover that much surface area. Photovolt panels are expensive, highly inefficient, and use toxic elements. They need maintainance, replacing, repair, and have a lifecycle. Same with the VERY expensive batteries you need to buy.

And it doesn't cost $50,000 per household.

Many estimates put the installation of a fully functional solar powered home at well over $50K. 660 sq ft costs $10,853 just for the panels using the cheapest product I could find. Then there is wiring, connectors, inverters, batteries, mounts, control panels, and monitors... The backhills of Alberta may be different, but in the U.S. it is highly illegal to install your own electrical system... You're looking at thousands in licensing, regulatory, and labor. $10K? Not on this planet.

But let's say you're super lucky and manage to get the whole shebang installed for only $25K somehow. That's about $150 a year in savings over 20 years versus fossil, or $13 a month. Is that worth it? Well, no. There's a reason people don't buy 20 years of food at once in order to save a few pennies a day. Same goes here.

Imagine you install your cool new solar system and 5 years later you lose your job. Unless you make up the cost in the sale of your house, you just lost $15K pal. Good luck selling your house when you're charging $15K more than the guy down the street... And get ready to pay ANOTHER $20K to install your new system in your next house... Oh nos! You need to move again in 3 years...? (Sad trombone...)

Solar is OK for heating water. It sucks for general purpose electrical needs. It is a pipe dream, because it can't be done in a way that makes sense because the technology is still too expensive. Yeah - people are 'doing' it... People are also 'doing' hydrogen fuel cells for cars but 99.99% of the population can't afford the $100,000 price tag.

Why do you have such a blind allegiance to the republican ideals?

I'm not a Republican, so I'm not even sure what you mean by this. This has nothing to do with politics. This is about common sense and what is actually possible with real-world physics and economics. I realize such things are problematic obstacles to people who are blinded by political blinders - but they still matter on planet Earth.

I am extremely sure my cartoons I posted around town offended its followers, WHICH for a fact I know 18 hours after being posted where still up . In a redneck hick Alberta town they are still up. even when I juxtaposed Islam as being as false as Christianity; and the fact I wrote the manufacturer of the religion was high on either shrooms, peyote or hash/cannabis.

Tags for this video have been changed from 'oil, canada, security guards, tar sands, al jazeera' to 'oil, canada, security guards, alberta, fort mcmurray, tar sands, al jazeera, greenpeace' - edited by kronosposeidon

Fuck Alberta Oil, the dirtiest source of filthy energy... in the world.

*canada, *quality