that's not an ak47

43.3 Billion eh? I guess the fiat banking system needed the money more so they can take those great vacations on their private jets. Seriously.. the military spends a huge amount on the technology to kill yet leaves their troops with minimal protection. The outcome is more deaths all the while someone is profiting BIG from the sale of arms and overpriced no-bid contracts.

Such a shame.

>> ^cheesemoo:
There's about 1.4 million people on active duty in the whole of the US military. Out of those, there are 433,000 enlisted people in the Army. Ignoring the other branches, and officers in the army, and at $100k a pop, it would cost $43.3 billion to equip all of the enlisted army soldiers. That's a bit under 1% of the military's annual budget of ~$550 billion. (from wikipedia)
On a per-soldier level, the army spends in the neighborhood of $50k to train a new recruit, from enlistment to their first assigned post. (source) Not 100% sure what exactly this figure entails, but I am guessing it does not include equipment. Could be wrong.
Anyway, regardless of its effectiveness in saving lives, it seems unlikely that the army would want to ~triple the cost of a new recruit. I believe it was mentioned in the discussion for the AK47 vs. M16 video that the main reason we are still using the M16, even though better weapons have been developed, is that we already have a lot of M16s, and it's cheaper to make small changes to the existing design instead of buying new guns for everybody.

43.3 Billion eh? I guess the fiat banking system needed the money more. Seriously.. the military spends a huge amount on the technology to kill yet leaves their troops with minimal protection. The outcome is more deaths all the while someone is profiting from the sale of arms and overpriced no-bid contracts. Such a shame.

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There's about 1.4 million people on active duty in the whole of the US military. Out of those, there are 433,000 enlisted people in the Army. Ignoring the other branches, and officers in the army, and at $100k a pop, it would cost $43.3 billion to equip all of the enlisted army soldiers. That's a bit under 1% of the military's annual budget of ~$550 billion. (from wikipedia)

On a per-soldier level, the army spends in the neighborhood of $50k to train a new recruit, from enlistment to their first assigned post. (source) Not 100% sure what exactly this figure entails, but I am guessing it does not include equipment. Could be wrong.

Anyway, regardless of its effectiveness in saving lives, it seems unlikely that the army would want to ~triple the cost of a new recruit. I believe it was mentioned in the discussion for the AK47 vs. M16 video that the main reason we are still using the M16, even though better weapons have been developed, is that we already have a lot of M16s, and it's cheaper to make small changes to the existing design instead of buying new guns for everybody.

I most definitely am. Thanks for the great detective work.

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Found the story and posted it in the comments. Thought you might be interested.

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>> Not sure why this isn't on the Sift
It actually is- or was when I tried to post it a year or two ago, but I can't find it.

Very intense. Would be interested to know the outcome.

Found the story and posted it in the comments. Thought you might be interested.

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>> Not sure why this isn't on the Sift
It actually is- or was when I tried to post it a year or two ago, but I can't find it.

Very intense. Would be interested to know the outcome.

Thanks.

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I just posted what happened after

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What happened after???

I just posted what happened after

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What happened after???

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>> ^gorillaman:
... I'll gladly surrender my right to carry a gun to keep them out of the hands of the fuckwads.


Giving up your personal weapon(s) has never stopped a fuckwad from getting a gun. As long as there are people with gambling debts/drug habits in the military, and bad police officers, there will be illicit weapons. If they shove the parts up the ass of someone coming in from a third (or second) world country "under the wire" there will be illicit guns.

Do you think alqueda gets it's AK47's from Russia/China? Only a few, because THEY BUILD THE DAMN THINGS THEMSELVES. Saturday Night Special - Assault Edition. Only a matter of time before those start showing up, en masse, over here.

One thing always struck me about the NRA. "Better to have a gun and not need it, than to need a gun and not have it."

A gun may not have changed the outcome of this crime, but what if one of the teachers at Columbine was carrying?

I'm waiting for one of the continuing school shootings to be stopped by someone with an illegal weapon... wouldn't that be a kick in the head?

MG34 iconic design on the same level as the AK47 for me.

Well, maybe the odd assassination or two during this presidential farce would liven things up a bit, eh? After all, isn't it the good ol' American way?

In fact, why not arm all the candidates to the teeth with knives and guns, drop them into a huge walled off arena and let them go at it for a whole week? Stream the entire bloodbath live 24/7, last one standing wins the entire planet to do with as they please.

Come on, who wouldn't want to watch Obama wearing only khaki shorts and a bandana blowing John McCain's head all over the wall with a 7.62mm armour piercing round? And you know Hillary is gonna look damn hot in full SWAT gear with an AK47 strapped to her back.

No debate, no talking points, just good old fashioned bloody slaughter, dismembered limbs and bullets through the spine.

I bet they're planning it right now.

EVE Online is about the only game I consistently play right now.

Some older favorites:

Neverwinter Nights and Expansion packs (One of the best game experiences ever especially Hordes of Underdark, NWN 2 was disappointing)

Sacred (This was like Diablo set in a larger open world, I actually finished this game 3 times)

Counter-Strike 1.3 (after that and Source it wasn't the same at all - The AK47 was so awesome in this version)

Quake 1, 2, 3. - Bots, Multiplayer and gibs. Nuff said.

Unreal Tournament (The original is still the best, UT3 was a huge consoley disappointment)

Freelancer 1 & 2 (Anyone remember pulling GTVA space patrols in a nebula? It was my own personal BSG)

Transport Tycoon Deluxe (Laying roads, train tracks, air and sea transport routes, was never so much fun, Locomotion was a huge disappointment)

Jagged Alliance 1 & 2 (Squad control mercs! Ivan Dolvich was hilarious)

Ivan Dolvich: You do not speak Russian? Ah, I miss days when Russia was at war with everybody.
Ivan Dolvich: [Speaking Russian; after killing an enemy in a rather brutal way] And that's why my nephew is an alcoholic.
Ivan Dolvich: [Speaking Russian; upon finding a weapon he likes] If I keep quiet, I will be able to keep it for myself!

Soldner (Like a JA clone set in a pulpish WW2 setting)

UFO: Alien Unknown (Oh my god this game was so scary, especially when you started getting Psiattacks from the aliens, still unrivaled today, even though countless companies tried direct copies, I didn't really like X-Com because of the underwater setting)

Heroes of Might & Magic 3 (I loved the 2D graphics, the newer 3D one isn't as magical nor did it have near the amount of units/artifacts/heroes as HMM3)

Rise of Nations (This was really one of the best and most enjoyable RTS games I ever played)

Total Annihilation (Visceral, primal RTS combat with robots, Supreme Commander lost that magic touch)

Morrowind (Oblivion was good but not as good as Morrowind which had more of an open ended feel, and not as consoley based as Oblivion)

I would say my favorite genre is FPS, though so far all am looking forward to is Fallout 3 and Jagged Alliance 3/3D/4 (if it ever makes it), I was looking forward to a shooter that was said to cover all the weapons from the 20th to 21st centuries following a familial history but I forgot the name, it had a really cool trailer too.

major upvote for the fact that they used the cs sounclip of an ak47 gunshot as the soundclip for the sniper rifle gunshot.

There's about 1.4 million people on active duty in the whole of the US military. Out of those, there are 433,000 enlisted people in the Army. Ignoring the other branches, and officers in the army, and at $100k a pop, it would cost $43.3 billion to equip all of the enlisted army soldiers. That's a bit under 1% of the military's annual budget of ~$550 billion. (from wikipedia)

On a per-soldier level, the army spends in the neighborhood of $50k to train a new recruit, from enlistment to their first assigned post. (source) Not 100% sure what exactly this figure entails, but I am guessing it does not include equipment. Could be wrong.

Anyway, regardless of its effectiveness in saving lives, it seems unlikely that the army would want to ~triple the cost of a new recruit. I believe it was mentioned in the discussion for the AK47 vs. M16 video that the main reason we are still using the M16, even though better weapons have been developed, is that we already have a lot of M16s, and it's cheaper to make small changes to the existing design instead of buying new guns for everybody.

arsenault185

I never made any claim for the m16 other then that it is not as hard to field strip as some (yourself included) claimed. I never even said it was comparable to the field strip for the AK47.. the m16 has more parts and steps. I reiterate my point... If you think field stripping an m16 is too complex, you don't have the dexterity or intelligence to be firing one in the first place.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krBIAb48nyo

I'll refrain from posting the one of an 11 year old girl doing the same procedure in 53 seconds.