>> ^SDGundamX:
Yes, let's teach people that violence isn't okay by thoroughly kicking their asses. By that f'd up logic, the guy in this vid has the right to come back with some friends and some 9mm's to teach all the guys who dog-piled him a lesson in return.
It doesn't matter if it was a guy hitting a woman, a guy hitting a guy, or a guy hitting himself. Just get the combatants apart and make sure they don't go anywhere before the cops arrive. Anything more than that is a criminal battery charge waiting to happen. And those guys throwing punches? They just made themselves liable for a nice fat civil suit, which they would probably lose thanks to the evidence of their macho idiocy being readily available on the internet.


Wouldn't it be nice if the law actually existed. The last time I checked, it was as illusionary floaty, fairy tale.

You think fascism is going to solve your problems? In this world lets make it apperant to the idiots that there idiots, and that preticular situation was dealt with swimmingly.

WHat is he going to shoot up that whole massive pool party? Hes not GWB, he dont gat no cruise missiles!

Dont hold back evolution, thinking the authorities are going to solve your problems your whole life, or else your just as bad as your average fundamentalist church baby.

Yes, let's teach people that violence isn't okay by thoroughly kicking their asses. By that f'd up logic, the guy in this vid has the right to come back with some friends and some 9mm's to teach all the guys who dog-piled him a lesson in return.

It doesn't matter if it was a guy hitting a woman, a guy hitting a guy, or a guy hitting himself. Just get the combatants apart and make sure they don't go anywhere before the cops arrive. Anything more than that is a criminal battery charge waiting to happen. And those guys throwing punches? They just made themselves liable for a nice fat civil suit, which they would probably lose thanks to the evidence of their macho idiocy being readily available on the internet.

The scary thing is there are summer camps kind of like this. When I was 7 or 8, I went to the John Birch Society summer camp in North Carolina, which is kind of amusing considering I turned out agnostic and slightly left of center. In case you don't know what JBS is, they're very libertarian/right and religious. There were bible studies and prayer meetings almost every day along with extremely pro-America radically patriotic sessions talking about how the country needs to go back to Revolutionary War ideals. Every other day or so we'd go out to shooting ranges too and fire everything from small caliber handguns to fully automatic assault rifles.

I was 7 years old and I vividly recall firing a .22 Luger handgun, .22 bolt-action rifle, 9mm handgun, .45, and a semi-automatic Kalashnikov. It was a lot like what they show in this video here. They'd even prompt us by saying "Imagine it's Castro out there!" or some other leftist figure from history.

I only went for one summer. I actually quite enjoyed learning how to properly and safely use a firearm and some of the principles of 2nd amendment protections and SAFETY with guns has stuck with me. The rest was far too radical for me, it was like a survivalist militia training camp.

Bah, natural selection should have pegged this morron off a long time ago. Too much government interference, living in a nanny state has allowed the population of mental midgets to flourish.

Replace all Taser's with their service 9mm's. Allow a police officer to command a combative opponent to the ground 3 times, then open fire.


No more retards!

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Bamdrew told me that you were into Supercar. I saw a video he had posted and got interested. It seems they have very little for sale on amazon and what is for sale is around $40-50 per album. What's going on with them?

www.hmv.co.jp
www.cdjapan.co.jp
www.yesasia.com

Amazon is the WORST place to get Japanese music (Amazon Japan is decent though). Use these sites, you'll find their albums for much better prices (and Yesasia gives you free shipping on orders over 25 bucks - a REALLY good deal; this is offset by their smaller selection and slightly higher CD prices). I use a combination of these when buying Japanese music.

As for Supercar themselves, they broke up in February 2005. The current projects are as follows:

Kouji Nakamura (vocals, guitar) is currently doing a solo project called iLL (http://www.illtheworld.jp/). It's electronic music, though in his latest single that came out last spring he did some singing (which really got me excited for what he's going to do next; I love his voice).

Miki Furukawa (bass, vocals) also went solo, under her own name　(Furukawa Miki/フルカワ ミキ). It's pretty interesting, a nice blend of pop, pop-rock, and electronic music. Nakamura plays guitar for her at live shows. (http://www.furukawamiki.jp/)

Junji Ishiwatari (guitar), who actually wrote all of their amazing lyrics, is currently not in any bands. He is, however, writing lyrics from time to time for various musicians, and does sound production for the bands Chatmonchy (http://www.chatmonchy.com/), a three-piece girl rock band with a great catchy sound, and 9mm Parabellum Bullet (http://9mm.moo.jp/), a high energy indie rock band.

Koudai Tazawa (drums) is currently doing some rather boring electronic music as aM (アム). I had a link to his MySpace at one point, but they weren't really worth checking out anyway, sadly.

Ummm...monster post. Sorry about that lol. I'm just a huge fan, so I've been following them since the breakup to see what they've been doing (Been a fan since I first heard them in early 2004). Of the solo projects, Miki's is the best, but iLL's latest release has me excited for what he'll do next.

Concerning Supercar itself, I have everything on my computer (as well as owning a decent portion of their releases), so if you want recommendations/a hookup, I can upload whatever for you. They're my second favorite Japanese band. If you're looking to buying things, the older singles are getting harder and harder to find, so I'd recommend starting there if anywhere.

Well there are only so many popular myths to explore before one runs out.

This was actually a very cool episode. They, of course, looked into the phrase "easy as shooting fish in a barrel". Using both a 9mm and a shotty with some buckshot and a mechanized fish in a wooden barrel--it was indeed easy to shoot fish in a barrel. The cool part came when they realized how easy it actually was. Turns out that you don't even have to shoot the actual fish for it to die. The shockwave from the bullet hitting the water alone is enough to kill every fish in the barrel, regardless of where the bullet goes. I'd forgotten how many g's the shockwave registered, but they put 3 of those ever mythbuster-popluar shock stickers inside the barrel and one 9mm shot tripped them all.

Pretty cool.

I've been at this exact pond. It's in Cambodia about 30 mins from Phnom Penh. There's lots and lots of weapons left over from the Khmer Rouge era, and no control over who uses them or how. There's also booming tourism from people who live in countries where these weapons are illegal, and somebody put the two together. (Here's a vid I shot of my buddy throwing a nade there). Anybody can drive up and, within a couple of minutes of arriving, throw a grenade or shoot any of a variety of guns, even a rocket launcher. They used to let us shoot cows with the rocket launcher, but apparently too much heat started coming down, so now you can only shoot at a nearby mountain.

The "reception" area is a folding table underneath a tin roof, right behind where this camera man and I were shooting from, so it's unlikely that anybody has ever dropped a grenade that didn't get kicked into the water in time.

I couldn't believe how lax they were about safety. I shot a fully automatic AK-47. The guy just handed it to me, pointed it downrange, then nonchalantly walked downrange to set up my target with this loaded AK pointed right at his back. He didn't even look back to check.

I also shot a clip from a 9mm handgun. He asked me if I needed to be shown how to use it. I said no, and he let me shoot. Then I handed it off to another friend I was with for the last few rounds. She had never shot a gun before, but he didn't ask, just let her go to it.

1. 9mm is crap, I'm glad they're running out.

2. Crime in Milwaukee and Indianapolis? I'm shocked! Such nice places to raise a family!

3. What do the liberals do about this? They cry when police use "excessive" force (ie shoot a criminal), but they also need someone to call when their house gets robbed. Quite the conundrum...

HAHA realism can make a decent game but it often times kills fun factor.

Look at Counterstrike...hardly something most people would consider a "bad game" and its no where near real (IE getting shot 4-5 times with a 5.56 round before dying, or like 7-8 times with a 9mm). This game was FUN to play and thats the whole point of it. Wing commander was not realistic either..such a horrible series!

I wish this game never died down, I played it a TON before switching to Counterstrike back in the day (GTW--Widowmaker for anyone who played back then). Nice to see it in action again!

The incident highlighted the growing divergence between the means available to the police and the offensive and defensive technologies employed by criminals. Video footage of the incident clearly shows police pistol bullets striking the suspects with little or no effect, largely due to the body armor worn by the suspects. Their body armor was able to stop the .38 caliber and 9 mm projectiles fired by the officers' service handguns.

The ineffectiveness of the pistol rounds in penetrating the suspects' body armor led to a trend in the United States towards arming selected police patrol officers with .223 caliber/5.56 mm AR-15s semiautomatic rifles. This provided first responders with greater ability to effectively confront and neutralize heavily armed and armored criminals.

Advocates of gun control in the United States cited the incident as evidence that U.S. gun control laws were inadequate to prevent military-class weaponry ending up in the hands of prior felons. Opponents of gun control counter that as the weapons had been obtained illegally, the incident did not indicate that criminal use of legally registered fully automatic firearms was a problem.

The LAPD patrol officers were not adequately armed or protected to deal with such criminals. The gunmen were firing rifle rounds from illegally-modified fully automatic assault rifles while being protected by full body armor. The officers' handguns and shotguns could not penetrate the suspects' armor, while the suspects' weapons were capable of severely wounding officers and bystanders through cement walls and automobiles.

The North Hollywood shootout was an armed confrontation between two heavily-armed and armored bank robbers (Larry Eugene Phillips, Jr. and Emil Dechebal Matasareanu) and patrol and SWAT officers of the Los Angeles Police Department (LAPD) on February 28, 1997, at a Bank of America teller-office.

The shootout resulted in the wounding of fourteen people (twelve police officers and two civilians) and the deaths of both bank robbers. Although only the suspects were killed, the sheer number of injuries made this one of the bloodiest single cases of violent crime in the 1990s, and one of the most significant single bank robberies of the 20th century.

The Weapons
Larry Phillips and Emil Matasareanu had a large array of firearms, which included:

o HK91: Used by Phillips as he fired at officers on the left side of the bank, the rifle itself took a hit to the bolt guide rails, which caused little damage.

o Type 56 Assault Rifle: Used by Phillips after discarding the HK91, as he started the escape. The rifle jammed.

o AK47s: Both Phillips and Matasareanu used these rifles during the robbery.

o Bushmaster AR15: Matasareanu retrieved this rifle from the trunk of their getaway car after sustaining a leg wound. He then waited in the car for Phillips, while shooting through the windows. This was also the rifle used by Matasareanu as he was engaged in his last shootout with SWAT officers.

o Beretta 92 9mm pistol: Phillips committed suicide with this weapon after sustaining several gunshot wounds.

Facts
* Approximately 370 LAPD officers were called to the scene.

* Other than the LAPD, the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department and units of the California Highway Patrol (CHP) responded to the scene. In the MVP documentary film, the LAPD sergeant being interviewed discusses the roles of those agencies as well as LA Airport PD, Burbank PD and LA School PD. Off-duty LAPD officers came in prior to the announcement of city-wide TAC-ALERT, which activates all personnel on duty. Members of the LAPD training at the Valley area police academy as well as the main LA police academy located in Elysian Park also responded. SWAT officers also responded from the police academy. One response was from Chief Willie Williams, who came from Parker Center, the LAPD's headquarters, located downtown.

* The following year, seventeen LAPD officers were awarded Medals of Valor from the department for their actions and bravery during the shootout.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_hollywood_shootout


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i34fbTMEius The video is from the film adaptation 44 minutes : North Hollywood Shootout - "Based on a shocking true story, 44 MINUTES recounts a fateful day in the life of several LAPD officers. In the summer of 1997 in North Hollywood, two wild gunmen with AK-47's began an assault on dozens of defenseless policemen. The results were tragic, but in the midst of the madness several well-trained and heroic individuals rose to the challenge, saving innumerable lives in the process."

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0362389/

This vid had a good run, and now it's dead. *discard a 9mm to the head to put it out of its misery.

That is the funniest siftbot comment ever. Who knew you could rile up ol' sifty.

I love the mayor's comments. Not that the police state shouldn't have been firing on innocent women and children who clearly were not a threat.. But that he should have stopped those comments by the cops on camera. We have militarized our police (formerly illegal) and given them "non-lethal" and "less-lethal" weapons.

Every rubber bullet stand a good chance of killing you or at least permanently injuring you. So there is no excuse to be using them unless you would have shot your 9mm at same person. The cops have been desensitized and convinced that protesters deserve it, and are hippy cockroaches, and they think they are doing good. They think people shouldn't protest. Idiots on here think people shouldn't protest, or bring their kids to protests. Hey, assholes, how do you think this country got started?! Go read some American Rev history.

Bush can now send Nat'l Guard if he feels like it. Not only is habeaus corpus history, but so is posse comitatus. Enjoy your free speech zones. The end times are near.. soon you can witness the birth of the Corporate States of America. Maybe they won't change the abbriviation. The Unincorparted States of America... yeah, that's more Orwellian.

I have a SLIGHT problem with the part of the supposed .38 to the chest.
Sorry, but he would have gone to the ground... period.

He was using what he called a "Level 2A" vest. This is the the second least effective vest made. It is rated for slower velocity 9mm and .357's. Of course the .38 is moving pretty slow at about 800fps, but we are still talking about absorbing a lot of force.

Even had he used sure footing, his body position was in no way set for the actual forces he would have felt. Regardless of dropping the gun, the velocity and force would have knocked him over. Legs spread, torso bent backwards, head leaning back, arms close together in front of him... stand like that and see if someone can't push you over with a good nudge from the front.

I've seen men brought to tears with shots from less force. A .38 to the chest, in that way, there is no way he would have been thinking "Oh, gotta remember to run over and pick up the gun." The reaction would have been closer to his reaction from the taser gun. He WOULD have been on his butt in some severe pain.

Vests do not make you immune from the pain, they simply stop the projectile from ripping flesh while exerting the same forces over a larger area.

There used to be a video going around of a reporter who shot himself with a .22 while wearing a vest. I LOVED that video, because it shows how stupid people can be, in their understanding of vests.

9mm to head