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And if I already own a squirrel stick? Can I get a 'possum one?

I'll take the wooden-squirrel stick, thank you!

Like grown people can't organize themselves and come to a consensus?

That whole "ye olde days of serfs and lords" is hyperbolic at best, if not outright fear mongering.

The Business Suit/Lobbyist Class are our Lords.
[Politicians are our Dukes or Barons or what have you.]

Why does there have to be a middle man who provides firefighters, and doctors, and civil engineering?

How the hell are we gonna govern ourselves after we recover from the zombie outbreak?!

>> ^GenjiKilpatrick:

Like grown people can't organize themselves and come to a consensus?
That whole "ye olde days of serfs and lords" is hyperbolic at best, if not outright fear mongering.
The Business Suit/Lobbyist Class are our Lords.
[Politicians are our Dukes or Barons or what have you.]
Why does there have to be a middle man who provides firefighters, and doctors, and civil engineering?
How the hell are we gonna govern ourselves after we recover from the zombie outbreak?!


We are governing ourselves. We always have been.

Right, cause you and I make policy decisions all the time.

Get with reality RetNunner.

You have about as much control over government.. as you do over what McDonalds puts on its menu.

None to very little.

>> ^GenjiKilpatrick:

Right, cause you and I make policy decisions all the time.
Get with reality RetNunner.
You have about as much control over government.. as you do over what McDonalds puts on its menu.
None to very little.


My point was that there's no "other" involved in our government. It's all human beings. No aliens, no gods, just us.

Our government, or even McDonald's isn't being inflicted on us by outsiders, they've both arisen naturally as a result of people just "governing themselves."

Basically, the truth of it is that people who just want to abolish government are ultimately just arguing that we should hit the reset button on human civilization.

If the police just went away, permanently, it wouldn't be all sunshine and rainbows. Petty thugs who use violence to take what they want would be empowered. Monomaniacal thugs would race to get their hands on as much military hardware as they could, and grab as much land and resources with it as they could. Those determine the new borders for the new monarchies, led by whoever it was that organized that military conquest. After all, they're the only ones with the military might to enforce law, and therefore they get to make the law.

Now maybe people will rebel against that, maybe even successfully. Maybe the general at the top of the army will be some sort of Cincinnatus figure, and refuse the crown, or a George Washington type and insist some sort of democratic republic. Or maybe he'll be a Napoleon or Hitler type. Who knows.

All I know is that the fundamental reasons why we built governments haven't changed. We still need laws, we still need law enforcement, and we still need some way for deciding what the laws will be.

Grown people don't just naturally come to a consensus. It seems like that should be obvious given the divided and antagonistic state of our civilization.