Last Week Tonight With John Oliver: Online Harassment

From YT--

"Online harassment is a major problem, but it’s rarely prosecuted. If only we’d been warned about this in the early days of the internet."
sanderbossays...

I love "Last week tonight" and all, but this one is weird to me.

How was the initial publishing of Anthony Weiner's dickpics not revenge porn? He sent those privately (or at least intended to in some cases), and then they were published, with the goal of publicly shaming him.

You could argue that when he lied about it, that a public interest came into being. But then it still started as revenge porn.

"Hello I am John Oliver, let me tell you about this heinous thing called revenge porn, by the way I made a little dance to celebrate one instance of it."

00Scud00says...

I don't remember much about the Anthony Weiner story but if the pics he sent were unsolicited (which may have been the case) then that might put it into different territory than if she asked him to send her pictures of his cock.
Of course if could also be because Weiner was a guy, and we still live with the double standard that no matter what happens a guy's job is to suck it up and take it like a man. And men are probably worse with each other about it in the same way that women will engage in merciless slut shaming amongst each other.

sanderbossaid:

I love "Last week tonight" and all, but this one is weird to me.

How was the initial publishing of Anthony Weiner's dickpics not revenge porn? He sent those privately (or at least intended to in some cases), and then they were published, with the goal of publicly shaming him.

You could argue that when he lied about it, that a public interest came into being. But then it still started as revenge porn.

"Hello I am John Oliver, let me tell you about this heinous thing called revenge porn, by the way I made a little dance to celebrate one instance of it."

ulysses1904says...

He cracked me up at 7:40 with the Spanish lisp thing. One of my pet gripes, people that study Spanish but speak it with their flat, schwa-infested lazy english pronunciation but then do a Daffy Duck impression by attempting a Spain accent. They usually have a misspelled Chinese tattoo to complete the picture.

MrFisksays...

Public figures have less freedom of privacy.

sanderbossaid:

I love "Last week tonight" and all, but this one is weird to me.

How was the initial publishing of Anthony Weiner's dickpics not revenge porn? He sent those privately (or at least intended to in some cases), and then they were published, with the goal of publicly shaming him.

You could argue that when he lied about it, that a public interest came into being. But then it still started as revenge porn.

"Hello I am John Oliver, let me tell you about this heinous thing called revenge porn, by the way I made a little dance to celebrate one instance of it."

MrFisksays...

Really. Public figures have less expectations of privacy. The difference between Wiener's wiener and 'The Fappening' is how the material was accessed and disseminated. And I'm not saying either is not a problem, but I'm saying that Wiener was a married elected official who chose to send dick picks to chicks other than his wife while in office. And then some of the recipients provided the material to the media, which isn't the same as an ex-lover self-publishing. And 'The Fappening' was a lapse of security of the cloud, right? So I don't see causation of similarity.

@GenjiKilpatrick -- I'm sure you could contact Anthony Wiener and get more pics. And I definitely wouldn't say leaked nudes is perfectly acceptable and to be expected, but it's most likely to be expected because the technology and ramifications are new. Snowden said the NSA casually exchanged images of nude women (probably men, too), and they weren't celebrities. Of course, I'm sure neither Snowden or the NSA leaked them.

sanderbossaid:

Really?!
Based on that thought, do you think that e.g. 'The Fappening' was not a problem.

GenjiKilpatricksays...

Wow, how baked are you @MrFisk?

The point you made was about Public figures and their privacy.

Regardless of how their privacy came to be violated..

(Anthony Weiner mistakenly? linked his pics on is public twitter originially. Hah.)

the result is the same:

People flocking to oogle their naked/scantily-clad bodies in photos that were meant to be private.

Isn't that the issue?


And then the rest of your comment about how..

..even private citizens should expect less privacy because of illegal data collection by the NSA..

(not unlike the illegal seizure by the Fappening hacker effectively)

Yet somehow that's okay because.. they didn't publicly share those photos.. O_o? really?

..wtf dude.. @_@

GenjiKilpatricksays...

If anything.. the Weiner scandal is most in line with the whole ..

"it completely wrong and fucked up to use private photos to shame and ruin someone's life & career" angle of this reporting.

At least the Fappening was "celebrating" those ladies' bodies and behavior.

SDGundamXsays...

Unless that person is engaging in illegal/unethical behavior. At least that's Oliver's position, I think.

If I understood that part of the segment correctly, he was saying the pending new legislation would ensure that whistleblowers couldn't be charged with a crime for revealing evidence of sexual harassment to the press (which is what happened in the Weiner scandal--photos showing Weiner engaged in dodgy behavior were sent anonymously to a conservative website, which posted them as part of a news story, and then later major news outlets picked up on it).

GenjiKilpatricksaid:

"it completely wrong and fucked up to use private photos to shame and ruin someone's life & career" angle of this reporting.

GenjiKilpatricksays...

Meh, that's debatable.

The women involved in the original scandal didn't claim to feel harassed.

She didn't even see the infamous picture.

In fact, she herself thought it was a obscene prank perpetrated by some conservatives who disapproved of her support for Weiner. (hehe)

Furthermore, the leakers weren't "whistleblowers" doing some ground-breaking investigative reporting on corrupt politicians.

They were right-wing lackeys who monitored Weiners communicates with the specific intent to dig up dirt.

From Wikipedia--

According to the New York Times, evidence later revealed that..


So..

Seems like Breitbart henchmen were hunting for some character-assassination dirt..

And Weiner accidentally handed it to them on a silver platter. (Hah)


There were supposedly 5 other women he sexted, and those scenarios may possibly constitute sexual harassment..

But, as far as the original scandal & dick-pic seen 'round the nation go..

A hilarious mistake lead to shaming and the end of a career.

Which sucks because Anthony Weiner was a fierce politician who was fighting the good fight.


So yeah, bad example for Oliver to pick.

SDGundamXsaid:

..whistleblowers couldn't be charged with a crime for revealing evidence of sexual harassment to the press..

..which is what happened in the Weiner scandal..

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