Obama's gone further to the left? HAHAHAHAHAH. Who is he, Newt Gingrich?

>> ^volumptuous:

Obama's gone further to the left? HAHAHAHAHAH. Who is he, Newt Gingrich?


Yeah, that's a confusing statement. Obama is practically a Republican at this point.

I think Obama's message of unity and equality (gay rights/DADT) was the message of his election campaign. Fiscal policy didn't really make the news until the Wall Street collapse, as Bush's wars and tax cuts heaped layers of fat onto the tub of lard that is the federal debt. I don't think he's gone any further left.

At the same time, I don't think he's gone to the right. As the prospect of unifying the house became more and more unlikely, with Dem's giving up almost every concession the Rep's wanted in the debt bill it's easy to conclude that he's shifted to the right. I don't think it's a matter of him selling out to the Rep's. I think it's the crappy hand he was dealt and forced to play with, while keeping his face fearless and confident for his people.

I think it's a symptom of a broken system, and this is what the OWS movement is all about.

>> ^xxovercastxx:

>> ^volumptuous:
Obama's gone further to the left? HAHAHAHAHAH. Who is he, Newt Gingrich?

Yeah, that's a confusing statement. Obama is practically a Republican at this point.

Wait, he did a rant where he literally lays blame for the entire national debt on Obama, and Obama alone, and now he's annoyed that it got labeled as an epic anti-Obama rant?

What a fucking tool.

>> ^xxovercastxx:

>> ^NetRunner:
Wait, he did a rant where he literally lays blame for the entire national debt on Obama, and Obama alone, and now he's annoyed that it got labeled as an epic anti-Obama rant?
What a fucking tool.

I haven't seen that one. Got a link?


Uhh, that's the one you linked to in your description, and the one they're talking about in the interview.

Or is "B" supposed to be someone else?

>> ^NetRunner:

>> ^xxovercastxx:
>> ^NetRunner:
Wait, he did a rant where he literally lays blame for the entire national debt on Obama, and Obama alone, and now he's annoyed that it got labeled as an epic anti-Obama rant?
What a fucking tool.

I haven't seen that one. Got a link?

Uhh, that's the one you linked to in your description, and the one they're talking about in the interview.
Or is "B" supposed to be someone else?


Yeah, I knew what video you were talking about. I was just being a smartass.

"Stop it B!" is the name of the series. It doesn't stand for Barack. However, given that misunderstanding, I could see how you'd think he's pinning it all on Obama. I wonder if Glenn Beck made the same error.

If you watch it again now, I think you'll see it's a rant against irresponsible government in general, with only a quick joke about black people not paying their bills directed at Obama toward the end.

>> ^xxovercastxx:

"Stop it B!" is the name of the series. It doesn't stand for Barack. However, given that misunderstanding, I could see how you'd think he's pinning it all on Obama. I wonder if Glenn Beck made the same error.
If you watch it again now, I think you'll see it's a rant against irresponsible government in general, with only a quick joke about black people not paying their bills directed at Obama toward the end.


Indeed, I bet he did. I bet a ton of people made the same mistake, given that the title of it is "Stop it B! Obama, pay your fucking bills!"

Even if I set that aspect aside, he's still mostly saying things that buy into a lot of Republican propaganda about the debt. For one, he makes it out to be some sort of urgent problem, which it's not. He acts as though hitting the debt ceiling is something new, and not something that happened almost every year under Bush. He acts as though the government hasn't been paying its bills, when in fact it's never failed to before, and only the hostage-taking from Republicans over the debt ceiling made anyone think that we might not. That also invalidates all the kvetching about credit scores, since we've never even been late on payments. Oh, and lots of individuals have worse debt ratios than the federal government, and businesses almost always operate on way more leverage than our government does.

But yeah, at least now I see he wasn't addressing it all directly at Obama like it was all his fault personally. So he's not batshit insane, but he's still pretty deep in a well of misconceptions.

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