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John Oliver - Mike Pence

bcglorf says...

Glad to hear you stating things as you did, I largely agree with you.

The trick playing out in Canada now is that because we've expanded the definition of protected classes more quickly than the US, the protected classes rights are interfering more and more.

I do not believe that religion should be a protected class in the same way as race, gender or ethnicity. Similarly sexual orientation and gender identity shouldn't be either. Race, Gender and ethnicity are all assigned at birth and can largely be determined by blood test and demonstrated to be something entirely outside an individuals control, choice and behaviour.

Religion is the most easily demonstrated as deserving a different status of protection than the others in that most religions ALL hold the others as heretical. Declaring other faiths immoral is necessary to religious freedom and I take as the very positive basis of America's freedom of religion notion being a wonderful agreement between Catholics and Protestants to agree to disagree over war.

More controversially, I would also class your sexual preferences and identity in with religion as a different degree of protected class. There is an element of behaviour and choice here that can not be determined at birth with any manner of blood test or parental bloodline.

More simply, the right to discriminate should not exist for immutable things people are born to and remain beyond their choice or control, while the right to discriminate based upon behaviours is entirely necessary and important. If you want to believe Scientology can help you heal broken limbs and transcend the world your free to it, but I'm gonna treat you differently than a sane person. To similarly treat someone different based upon race or gender though is unacceptable.

ChaosEngine said:

Honestly, I really don't care what the beliefs of any church are.

If a church wants to take the stance that gays are evil and people with green eyes are demons... well, they're idiots, but as long as they don't do anything illegal, they're entitled to their stupid beliefs.

But religious beliefs shouldn't grant you any special privileges under the law. Basically, I believe you should be free to have whatever religion you want, as long as it's within the confines of the law that applies to everyone. No special exemptions.

So, no, a baker doesn't get to decide whether they can refuse service to a gay couple because of their religious beliefs. They can potentially refuse service if the LAW says they can refuse service to anyone for any reason, but religion shouldn't enter into it.

Why should a religious bigot get some special treatment that a regular bigot doesn't?

Now, after all that, the question of forcing businesses to provide service under the law is a tricky one as you and @newtboy have discussed. But generally, there are specific "protected classes" (not sure about the exact term), that you are not allowed discriminate on (i.e. gender, ethnicity, disability, religion, etc). I would be in favour of adding sexual orientation to that list.

So yes, you can refuse a nazi or a cop or a pedophile, but you can't refuse a native american lesbian in a wheelchair.

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Jimmy Kimmel Unplug the TV During the Superbowl

ctrlaltbleach says...

Wiki-

A practical joke (also known as a prank, gag, or jape) is a mischievous trick played on someone, typically causing the victim to experience embarrassment, indignity, or discomfort. Practical jokes differ from confidence tricks in that the victim finds out, or is let in on the joke, rather than being fooled into handing over money or other valuables. Practical jokes or pranks are typically lighthearted, reversible or non-permanent, and aim to make the victim feel foolish or victimized to a certain degree. However, practical jokes may also involve cruelty.
The term "practical" refers to the fact that the joke consists of someone doing something physical, instead of a verbal or written joke. For example, the joker who is setting up and performing the practical joke, might hang a bucket of water above a doorway and rig the bucket using pulleys such that, when the door opens, the bucket dumps the water. The joker would then wait for the victim to walk through the doorway and be drenched by the bucket of water.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Practical_joke

>> ^budzos:

This is pretty assholish. I can't really see what's supposed to be funny about it. Wow, so hilarious to ruin someone's enjoyment of something they're deeply absorbed in.


>> ^Quboid:

This just seems like a dick move to me. When someone's really into something and you suddenly ruin it, duh, they get upset. That would be like me telling you that Bruce Willis was a ghost all along or that Tyler is in Jack's imagination - these things work on suspense, and that only works when they are revealed properly. Try watching a football match (real or American) when you know what's going to happen ... it's not the same, not at all.
I appreciate that people not into sports don't get this, but they should get that people into sports are, gasp, into sports. They don't deserve to be called morons or sheeple, for what, for enjoying something? Screw you. Who the hell are you to judge them?
Sorry if I just ruined those... Sucks, doesn't it?

Why you should ALWAYS wear your seatbelt!

skinnydaddy1 jokingly says...

>> ^marbles:

>> ^skinnydaddy1:
World Problem. Over Population will stretch food and resources to the breaking point.

False.


right... I'm sure your tying to make some statement or other so lets kill it right now.

joke

verb /jōk/ 
joked, past participle; joked, past tense; jokes, 3rd person singular present; joking, present participle

Make jokes; talk humorously or flippantly
- she could laugh and joke with her colleagues
- “It's OK, we're not related,” she joked

Poke fun at
- he was pretending to joke his daughter

noun /jōk/ 
jokes, plural

A thing that someone says to cause amusement or laughter, esp. a story with a funny punchline
- she was in a mood to tell jokes

A trick played on someone for fun

A person or thing that is ridiculously inadequate
- the transportation system is a joke


So now you know the Definition for what my comment is. Also please feel free to post the full quote. Not just what you think you hear.

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Noam Chomsky on Pornography

gorillaman says...

What happened to you Chomsky? You used to be cool.

Pornography is one of the most significant and valuable achievements of the human race to date - possibly only the scientific method ranks higher.

Remember that sexual desire is fundamentally a trick played upon us by a primeval passenger in our body, the mass of genes that made us and that require propagation to survive. As a tool, porn provides for relief of the breeding urge in a way unprecedented in nature; essentially separating (or liberating) man from the hormonally-enforced rules imposed upon our minds, and those of all other successful animals, by innumerable years spent under the cruel yoke of evolution.

Suddenly, thanks to the glorious power of our miraculous minds, we find ourselves no longer struggling for a position in a shrinking and competitive world, but the masters of it; we need not cling to the crutches that carried us through a now defunct paradigm. We are a species evolving ourselves beyond evolution. The more we conquer our primitive instinct, the further we drive our triumphant acuity beyond the paths laid for it, the more we become like gods.

UCI Gets Away with a Faulty Hidden Ball Trick Against LSU

NordlichReiter says...

After playing 8 years of baseball all the way to senior level in high school, I have some experience with this.. indeed it got me once in an exhibition game. This is a judgment call, and the umpire cannot take it back. Once the inning changes and people go into the dugout its over you cant take it back.

In this case the umpire was wrong. Every one except the pitcher is allowed to deceive a runner. If you are pitcher and its a tight game do not risk the balk. Which means ball + walk, the batter get a ball and the runner can walk to another base.

Another thing any hidden ball trick involving the pitcher is immediately illegal. The pitcher cannot, ever attempt to deceive the runners. We call this a balk, which does not need the pitcher engaged to the mound.

Trick plays happen all the time (Center sneak - football, Fake field goals, and the pitcher changing the pitch mid wind up: that used to piss me off as a catcher. Me and the pitcher would have a long angry discussion.) its not a trick its misdirection, you better be on your toes or it will get you.

UCI Gets Away with a Faulty Hidden Ball Trick Against LSU

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