"Remember kiddies, if your the goalie and if you have the puck, get rid of it asap or else..."

^Some can get away with it. Brodeur, for example. Some *want* to be able to get away with it really, really badly, but end up giving ulcers to fans instead. Roy was a fantastic goalie, but as an Avs fan every time he decided to play the puck my heart rate would go up...

well considering the curling stones usually weigh 44 lbs and the hockey pucks are around 5 onces I think Id say your theory on faked has some merit.

Cool to watch and the kid shows some good puck control, but I imagine Crosby or Ovechkin would have less luck attempting to slip that one past a goalie that didn't stand on the goal line directly between the pipes...

>> ^direpickle:
Using the term 'statist' is not helping your (our!) case and just makes you sound like a jackass.


If you believe the State should have a say in the direction of society over the voice of the individual, then you're a Statist. It's a descriptive term, not a derogatory term like, say... "jackass"? Should people be angry if I called them Democrat or Republican, then?


>> ^bmacs27:
Laws DISCOURAGE behavior. The law is a success if there are LESS murders.


You support the death penalty, then? See, direpickle, this is a statist. He believes the state has the right to take your life as long as it can be proven to discourage murders.



>> ^Psychologic:
I think the main question that others were attempting to convey was "when is behavior too dangerous to be legal?" This person who never hurt anyone may think it is safe for him to operate his vehicle with however much he drank, but he could very well be completely wrong too.


I agree with you. Some people can be terribly irrational when drinking and stepping behind the wheel, and they may be an absolute danger to others on the road. There are a several issues I take with this. First, the current legal limit is ridiculously low. Anyone with a BAC of 0.08% isn't posing a threat to anyone, and it's simply a way to generate income for the state.

Secondly, you're supposing the roads have to be a guaranteed safe environment. Sure, we'd want them that way, but at what cost? A little bit of liberty given up for a bit of safety is reasonable, but I think we're long past that. When you take to the roads, you have to assume a reasonable amount of implied risk. If you went to a hockey game and were to be hit on the head by a galvanized rubber puck and shortly thereafter died, it wouldn't be the fault of the stadium or the player or the team or anyone, because there is a reasonably amount of expected risk associated with attendance (even though when this happens, the league typically pays for the hospital bills so to not endure bad press).

Let's take your grandmother for instance. As long as she doesn't harm anyone, I think she should be able to drive as long as she feels able. Why? Because your solution is she MAY hurt someone or herself because she's getting old and can barely see over the hood of her car. And your solution is the majority's position, which is another case where the majority take away the rights of the minority; in this case, the elderly. You wouldn't ban hockey because the players MAY knock a puck out of the glass and kill someone, would you? No. Why? Because that's the risk people assume when they visit a game. The roads can be dangerous, and by driving on them you're assuming risk.

Third, once you open the door to government restrictions where do they end? First you needed a permit to drive. Then they made you wear a seat belt. Now you can't talk on your cell phone. Next you won't be able to change the radio station or talk while driving. All in the name of safety to prevent risk.

aww man - I shoulda downvoted just for the hockey puck mouse at 2:10.

It is proven that the closer you get to the shooter, the less angers the puck has to get by you.

That's why in Soccer, or football the goaltender attacks the kicker, sometimes.

Example:
   .               -----
  .                     |
 .                      |
. Goalie            |
 .                      |
  .                     |
   .              ------

Versus
   .               -----
  .                     |
 .                      |
.         Goalie    |
 .                      |
  .                     |
   .              ------

Forgive the very badly formulated triangles. It means the closer you get to the vertice where the shooter is, then the less chance he has to get the ball or puck by you.

>> ^Payback:
^ This was a failure of defense. He should have never been back there that long unmolested.

I know they shoulda totally been molesting him in the back.

^ that entire game was a freaking power play for the most part, it ended 15-0 for us canucks, the record is 18-0.

The kazakstanians seemed to be barely able to stay on their skates at some points.. and in some cases even just randomly fell over..

Hell, their goalie went behind the net to retrieve a puck at one point, shot it up the boards, it was intercepted by the Canadians, and in his haste to get back in front of the net HE even fell over.

They managed to get lucky though, because we didn't score on them at the time.

>> ^Payback:
^ This was a failure of defense. He should have never been back there that long unmolested.


Sounds like it was a Canadian powerplay? In which case the defenders were shorthanded anyway.

>> ^Payback:
He should have never been back there that long unmolested.

ICK! No wonder I didn't take up hockey!

Don't coach, okay?

Ah yeah
It's the fat joint right here
Here we...
This joint right here is dedicated to
Well, I'm not malicious
But all those whose words vicious
Talkin behind the back
This shit is wack
Here we go
You need to walk like a duck (walk like a duck)
Walk like a duck (walk like a duck)
You need to walk like a duck (walk like a duck)
Say what? (Like a muthafuckin duck!)
You need to walk like a duck (walk like a duck)
Walk like a duck (walk like a duck)
You need to walk like a duck (walk like a duck)
Yo Jorge, how do ducks walk?
Check it

Kurious was never one for ring around
The rosie, not Josey, but I mosey on down
To a meadow where the flowers stay wilted
So what I ain't hit as many skins as Wilt the Stilt did
It's like that, never labelled a wack
And yo, they choose behind my back to do the Duckville quack
My style is cool, sweet like a ???
But still (what?) you gossip like a bitch
Mental stimulation when I'm rollin with the rat pack
If you're frontin rock, get the doodoo out your knap sack
The fat track provided by the Beat' got you goin
'nuts kickin butts, underneath be when I'm flowin
I'm knowin, you frontin-ass ducks is gettin smeared
My crew rolls thick like a hillbilly's beard
Constipated Monkeys gettin to the point quick
Like my man Apache said: yo, get off (MY DICK!)

It's like that and - ah
Didn't go to Georgia, took the train to Alabama
On the midnight tip like Gladys Knight and the Pips
My sole intention bein to move the marrow in your hips
Family confusion's what motivates the rhymer
Got an aunt named Tom, uncle named Jemima
Kurious Jorge on the welfare line
Plus American Airline never prepared mine
Ears for the poppin, hands for the clappin
If I sense turbulence, commence to see the captain
Two strikes, your motion got a notion of funk
I must prescribe a mint (why?) cause your breath stunk
(Ill) I paid the bills, sent a check to my mama
If you try to wreck my mind, there's mad drama
I'ma deliver one worm for the hawk
Eliminatin quacks on the duck walk

I drop limes like you drop mescaline
Tabs on my tongue as I swung from the swing
And came up with that thing they call 'Walk Like a Duck'
Quite frankly don't give a fuck
Mama raised me humble, so I never ever label
Myself as the best, cause some of the rest got more flavor
But that's okay, beyond a shadow of a doubt
I got skills, I ain't conceited, but still might take you out
Half Puertorican, half Cuban, not Fidel
Castro, like an astro you know I excel
Time to sell mad units, scratchin on my pubics
Complicate confusion like a ?Nick Kubrick? on a Rubik
Who kicks the bubbles that allow the truth to surface?
I never will delete, so I don't defeat the purpose
Slapshot the gift like a hockey puck
Ha-ha, you fuckin duck

What a little power puck.

You pucked with the wrong ice president.

Oh what its not enough those puck hittin, syrup drinking bastards have their Thanksgiving first, now they gotta have their day of national celebration first too? What's next you delicious beer brewin, health care havin, same sex tolerating snow jockey's, Christmas in September?

I mean, um, Woo go Canada!!

>> ^EDD:
It's not shitty. It's just 'different'. Label it 'emo'.


same thing.