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Describing MMA as a gay-positive sport is like describing OJ Simpson as a straight-positive role model.

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No, the judge has no responsibility towards helping anyone. Would you say that a judge should work to convict someone if we all "know" they are guilty but cannot necessarily prove it? Ie. should he help out society to try to convict, say, a murderer?Take OJ's judge, or perhaps to a lesser extent Casey Anthony's. That is a slippery slope my friend. I will say though that he was out of line with his attitude, but we attribute the wrong attitude towards judges.

A judge should take no position. For example, a judge that gives probation over and over again to juveniles for burglary (Their typical charge) is doing them no favor at all because they think the justice system has no teeth. Then when they rape or agg bat, they go from 3-4 months and probation to 25 years. All because of our joke system that encourages leniency the first few times--then ass fucking after that. I see it everyday. If the kids would have some bitten off at the start perhaps they would not be so disrespectful to rules in general (And no, programs haven't worked often from what I see...drug program? Great for a bunch of addicts to get together and, do drugs...)

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@ponceleon I think we fundamentally agree--but we seem to be talking past one another. You seem to be ascribing motivations to me which I don't think are right.

I do Not think that Jennings should be prosecuted because he's a smug, smirking bastard. I do Not think he should be prosecuted because of what TYT says.

I think he should be prosecuted because he was accused of a heinous crime. Apparently--at one time--the prosecuting attorney agreed. Then he didn't--that smells very bad; taking in to account the history of the US justice system favoring rich people over all others (OJ should be in jail for life for 2 murders--he's not because he could afford a team of scummy lawyers). I am "all worked up" because the dropping of the charges at the last minute smells like privilege.

I know I'm somewhat of a one trick pony here; posting all these TYT vids. But that doesn't mean I think they are always right--or even that their reporting doesn't sometimes suck (like this story).

Ammar's hand was cut and required six stiches. Jennings said the cabbie had grabbed the knife by the blade and that's how his hand got cut. So why was Jennings holding a knife? The prosecutor says he had to drop the case because Ammar had possession of the knife in question 5 months after the incident. Why didn't the cops ask where the knife was for all that time? No one has claimed that the knife wasn't Jennings', so how did the cabbie get it? So, the prosecutor says that Ammar is guilty of obstruction of justice for not telling anyone he had the knife. Weiss (the prosecutor) said he then could be fair and prosecute both or be fair and prosecute neither, and he chose the second option. This all stinks and needs to be brought out in court. Civil court means nothing to the rich--he could pay any fines out of pocket money.

But the justice system has a way to take care of prosecutorial misconduct. The Council on American-Islamic Relations has asked that the Federal Investigators to get involved. That--along with pressure from the stirred up public--should get a true investigation of this incident rolling.

(It sounds like you did a good job on your jury.)

This is a guy who has become completely comfortable with blatantly lying to the American public - confidant that no one will call him out as the bullshitter he truly is.

It really seems he has become completely unshackled from the reins of reality and if anyone brings this to his attention, he simply denies it.

The OJ Simpson of politics...

>> ^Sagemind:

Emotions, hate and everything negative create a killer - thereby emotion, forgiveness and love shall set him free.
...And by free, I mean free to remorse and begin a process of feeling what it is to be human again.
Since negative forces create a killer, condemnation and negativity will never penetrate to hard shell he has around him. The unexpected realization that someone is reaching out, someone you expect only condemnation from can be the chisels to start the first crack of remorse and acceptance that maybe someone out there cares.


Don't get me wrong, I believe that what the man did was wonderful and truly human in a way that the bitterness and hate displayed by the other people miss. However, I feel like it might be jumping the gun interpreting the emotion displayed by this scum as you (and others) have. I'm not saying that there couldn't be healing there, but I also feel like those tears may be more of the selfish and insane attitude that made him a serial killer to begin with.

I'm not sure who said it first, but Carrie Fischer had a great line in her one-woman show: bitterness is like you drinking poison and expecting the other person to die. I agree wholeheartedly that what this man did was far more productive to himself and others than the vitriol spilled by those who couldn't show compassion towards this waste. Still, I understand them and wouldn't trust this man to be anything other than what he clearly is: cold, unfeeling, and already dead.

Not to get gruesome, but this man faced FAR more compelling moments which should have evoked empathy. He faced his victims and strangled them to death (if I googled the right guy, over 90 time) Think about that. He had people in his control who he tortured. They were awake and likely pleading for their lives. Probably women. Imagine their eyes filled with tears as he did whatever horrors he did to them.

To think that a moment of forgiveness from one of his victim's families makes him in any way human is just naive. I am far more likely to believe that his tears were motivated by the same hyper-narcissism that he felt killing his victims. We will never know exactly what was going through his head as he cried in this clip, but I doubt it has anything to do with healing or becoming human. It more than likely has to do with another selfish, "I'm great and this guy gets me" insanity.

All this said, I vacillate on the death penalty. I remember the quote Gandalf says about the subject and find it one of the most compelling anti-death penalty statements: Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise cannot see all ends.

This guy is about as much of a clear choice of someone I would have no problem putting to death. This isn't OJ for which you could argue that there is tainted evidence... this guy not only admits his horrible guilt, but is verifiable in a much more concrete way. Yet, I can't help but to think that we could learn from him and hopefully good can come of that, either to help prevent the creation of other monsters like him, or at least clues on how to catch them easier.

In the end though I empathize with both sides of those who spoke. I agree that the gentleman who forgave the killer will lead a relatively happier life, in as much as he can having lived through what he did, but I completely understand wanting this man to suffer after what he did to his victims. He is not human, he will never be, and I don't believe his tears are noteworthy as an example of his humanity, but rather curious as a psychopath who smiles or whistles as he inflicts horrors on others.

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Justice means one thing to you, justice means something different to us. Or something to that effect.

Powerful. OJ Simpson. Trayvon Martin. Black parents having to talk to their teenagers about how to talk to a cop if they get pulled over while driving (no white parent has that conversation).

Wow.

Assange is facing the music. He knew that the US government would understand what a threat he poses, and use any means necessary to screw him over, which they are already doing, whether they succeed in extraditing him at all. The functioning of Wikileaks is effectively stopped, and he hasn't been a de facto free man for years now. He knowingly made that choice.

As for the justice of the thing, Assange didn't break any American laws. He isn't even being extradited for a crime, at the moment. He hasn't been charged with anything by anyone in any country. Officially, the extradition is because the Swedish police want to question him about whether he used a condom during consensual sex. If someone wants to extradite him for Wikileaks activity, then the US should come up with a criminal charge and follow the normal process. We all know that once they've got him on US soil, they'll just pull a Bradley Manning on him and torture him indefinitely without laying real charges for years. His trial will make OJ look like a sideshow. For that reason alone, even if he had committed a crime, claiming asylum would be legitimate based on the US's own record of criminal behaviour in dealing with people this case.

I'm sure this is also about his threat to blow the doors wide open about fraud at Bank of America. If that kind of behaviour continued, it would certainly mean the demise of significant campaign contributors to both major parties.

I have a feeling I would hate Assange if I ever met him, but that shouldn't affect his right to freedom when he hasn't committed any crime. Anyone who risks his own life and freedom to expose horrible acts in order to force governments and corporations to behave more honestly is a hero.>> ^Hybrid:

I have no issue with seeing Mr. Assange being extradited to the US via Sweden. He made a conscious choice to leak knowingly classified information, now it's time to face the music.

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No surprise 9/11 topped the list. Really questionable choices. I thought #2 would be the moon landing for sure. 9/11 could have been paired with bin Laden's death as one mention (two sides of one larger story). I think the announcement of JFK's assassination and his subsequent funeral were close enough together to warrant one event. Same is true with the ongoing drama that was OJ Simpson's original trial. JFK should have ranked higher than Simpson.

Casey Anthony has no right to this list at all, and I'd replace her with the 1989 World Series, where the SF Giants and Oakland A's (a fact notable to bay residents) were interrupted by an extremely lethal earthquake. Condensing references would allow the moon landing to occupy the #2 spot and a few more events to be selected.

That's what they get for letting a poll of 1077 randoms populate a list like this.

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