It's not illegal, in general, for an adult to have a relationship with 'a minor'. The 'age of consent' in most states in the US is 16. The age of consent in Utah is 18, in general, though. If the older person is within ten years of the younger person's age, though, the age of consent can be 16 or 17

15's still off-limits everywhere in the US, though.

Some context:
http://www.videosift.com/video/Geert-Wilders-brilliant-speech
http://www.videosift.com/video/Fascist-Exposed-Geert-Wilders-on-Radical-Islam
http://www.videosift.com/video/Dutch-Anti-Islam-Film-Provocative-But-Not-Illegal
And here's his movie Fitna http://www.videosift.com/video/Fitna

theyre not illegal until they have marijuana resin in them, they then become paraphernalia. thats why they can sell them in head shops.

much like how its perfectly legal to sell dildos as "cake decorations", they then become illegal when you sell them as/use them as "things to stick in an orafice for pleasure".

my question is why you have to be 18 to go into a store that only sells "cake decorations"?

oh and in this case i think the issue was mislabeling and customs laws..... and well, drug enforcement generally gets retarded.


In reply to this comment by guitarwolf:
Can somebody explain why a pipe is illegal?... Seriously.

No, I'm afraid I don't have precise figures for you. There are other issues to consider as well, such as how much it costs for students not studying in a government-supported institution (Michlalot), there's the whole issue of the three years of military service the Haredi are exempt from and it really isn't as simple as "they get X, we get Y".

And regarding the "bread thing", it's not illegal to buy it, but it's illegal to sell it, and stores selling bread during Pessah get fined regularly.

Saying it's not a religious law is laughable, almost like saying the Swiss minaret ban is an architectural dispute.

Is it me or is this similar to Ralph Nader fucking up the 2000 elections? I understand that it's a statement, but it's a statement at the wrong god-damned time.

Abortions are not illegal. There are plenty of non-profit organizations that will help fund abortions if needed, and they're not even that expensive! $400-500 for the first trimester? Up to $5000 for the second trimester. It's not like cancer treatment or HIV-treatment.

I understand that it's a step back. But we need to get this bill passed, but swallow this, and amend it later. Let's just get the first step made.

"It's not illegal in Japan to be a part of organized crime" oh wow...WTF???

It's not illegal to "F" a Unicorn! "True Fact!"
But it should be illegal to sing this song dressed like these guys!

I *know* this will be long. But understanding things should never be allowed to be reduced to sound bites and short sentences.

Police raided a school as an exercise? Not even some warrents? Sounds like some individuals whom need to be held accountible for their jobs. Which could be fines, jail time, lose of job, and so on. People make mistakes, and do dumb things. Can you honestly say you haven't done dumb things in your life so far?

The narrator is trying to use fear, to get the proper response out of you, the audience. To some degree, as with posters above, he succeeds at the task. He uses a collection of words and phrases, and links them to imagery, sounds, and even old pictures. In ways, this concept is known as NLP, or, Neuro-logical programming (look it up in wikipedia, its both fascinating and scary stuff).

Police have to keep up with technology and tactics, as their duty in our country, is to up hold the law. The legistators create laws, the executive signs such law in to effect. Its the law enforcement (i.e. the police, FBI, and other local/state/federal agencies) whom maintain the law. The justices decide on whether the laws are within Consitituional limits, or if they breach them. All these sets of checks & balances do not work, if the citizens of the country let in to the fear this narrator wants you to feel. I know the police in my town. Friendly bunch whom work very hard to keep things normal and safe. They are very much studied and watched. We pay them very well, and make sure they have the proper tools to do their job correctly, honestly, lawfully, and to be responsible.

The 'police state' effect, that the narrator talks about, did come in to effect during the Bush Administration. The US Patriot Act was passed in to law very quickly, shortly after Sept. 11, 2001. One of its passages allowed the goverment to circumvent the 4th Amendment, allowing the White House to 'spy' on over 300 million Americans. This was conducted in an effort to catch and eliminate "...those whom are a threat to our country." This narrator does not hold Mr. Bush, nor the White House accountible to each and every time, this action took place.

If I recall the issue of military 'APC's for Waco, Tx correctly. The Branch Davidians were holed up in a central structure compound with numberous fire arms. Now, this by itself was not illegal. The agents conducting the warrents and arrests initally were met with the civilian sold version of the Barrett M82A1 'light fifty' rifle. This weapon, to my knowledge, is a single shot weapon (the military version can fire rounds from a magizine....I think?). I'm sure the gun nuts on here could inform us, of the gun's name. Anyways, this weapon, like its military cousin, could blow holes through armored police cars. The APCs were used to conduct operations and hopefully bring the matter to a non-violent conclusion. As the history books show, this did not happen. But the police, and FBI, did not racket up their skills and tools in a vacuum. After the event was over, there were a number of studies on the issue, and people held properly (depending on one's viewpoint I guess) of their actions and inactions that led to the events.

If you, the citizen really are consern about the nature of the police or law enforcement, then why not go visit the police. Talk to them, become active in your community and seriously look at how a police state could be formed, and take proper, legal, honest action to oppose it. Believe it or not, the police I know, are AGAINST a police state. And they are in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts (since, some of you conversatives think us Mass residents are all commie, liberal, socialistic, islamic happy, tree hugging, yuppy, homosexual liking, religios hating, psych-paths....did I leave anything out?). In fact, thsoe whom are liberal REALLY are against the police state. We voted to remove Republicans at the federal level, out of office (since the Bush admin *IS* Republican).


Finally, recall its Thomas Jefferson that said, (paraphrasingly) that if we are afraid to speak our minds in pursuit of our nations freedoms and equalities, then we allow tyranny to win.

of course it's not illegal to skateboard in san francisco. some public schools even have after-school skateboarding clubs. there are skate parks and public skating events in the park.

he's just another typical fascist cop who likes showing off how powerful he is. the real insight into his personality is that he got all riled up and threatened to break someone's arm because they said he's acting like a dick. if he really wasn't acting like a dick it wouldn't have gotten him so angry. he was feeling guilty because he knew what he was doing was wrong and that's why he reacted that way. like i said, typical cop.

>> ^quantumushroom:
Well, at least conservatives stand for something, even if some of them fail. This guy may be dumb but he didn't bugger an underage teen, and isn't a tax cheat/marxist or architect of the housing collapse.


Age of consent in DC is 16. Gerry Studds's cohort was 17. Inappropriate, maybe, but not illegal or hypocritical.

Sounds as bad as my future mother in law... The conversation started by talking about Michael Vick.

Dad-in-law(DIL): "I think Vick has paid his debt to society. I think it is disgusting what he did, but you shouldn't prevent a man from working if he has already paid the price for his crime."

me:"I had to think about a bit, but I agree. He has really toed the line. I think he is a horrible human for doing that to dogs, but I agree."

Mother-in-Law:"Really. You Really think that?"

DIL:"Yeah I do. I am conflicted about it, but he did his time."

MIL:"What I dont understand is how a man like that has to do two years in prison for killing dogs, and doctors who preform abortions get to walk the street."

Fiance:"Abortion are not illegal."

Me:"Wow, this is great Kung Pao chicken."

Talk about throwing a fucking molotov on the conversation. That woman hates me.

How is this shit not illegal ?

All I have to say is that Bill Maher is fucking awesome. I've pretty much agreed with everything that he's ever said.

Bill Maher is using pretty much the exact words that I've been using about this whole stupid Gates controversy. There aren't enough details to know if it was anything racial. But one thing is perfectly clear: Gates got arrested at his own home for disorderly conduct after the police knew that he was the owner of the home.

http://www.masscriminaldefense.com/disorderly.htm
Here is the Massachusetts definition of disorderly conduct. There is a reason the police quickly dropped the charges. It's unheard of that someone could be arrested for disorderly conduct on his own front porch! It doesn't matter how many times he loudly and rapidly demanded the officer's badge number. Loudly demanding an officer's badge number is not illegal. Once the police know a crime is not being committed, Gates should have the right to tell them to fuck off and die. Gates should be able to go back into his house and the police should require a search warrant to enter.

Where do people get the idea that if he's being rude, he "deserves" it?!

>> ^Hawkinson:
hold on, its a private club, right? My private property isn't open to the public either, I have a strict "no leprechauns" policy.
It's important to recognize the difference between private and public spaces, we certainly get enough "police violating peoples rights" videos to know that your lawn is your lawn, and you can do whatever the hell you want on it. Being an asshole is not against the law.


Its not illegal...neither is bailing out banks billions in debt, whilst their CEOs take multi-million pay packets.

Its not illegal, but its wrong; what exactly is so hard to understand?

It's true.

Cameras are not illegal, but a camera will get you in trouble quick.

I don't know what to say, blankfist.

Things like this, and worse, happen all the time in the "land of the free."

You never really know the nature of the machine until you speak against it.

You will be labeled a criminal (obviously) should your words carry weight.

I don't know what to say.