>> ^ex-jedi:
The officer in this case realised that the kids had 'mental disabilities', still no sympathy? I agree that if you're dealing with an officer, being respectful is the most sensible way of not turning the situation into a clustercuss, but I hope officers can use their discretion, especially when dealing with vulnerable individuals. And most of them do actually. I've had lots of dealings with the police over the years, and they've all been pretty cool.




Look, there's no doubt he deserves to be thoroughly investigated for the incidents decribed. Maybe he even deserves to be thrown off the force or into jail. I don't know, I wasn't there.

All I'm saying is, if you disobey an officer and resist arrest, you are asking to get seriously hurt or even killed. In the case of the two kids, their parents should have taught them to respect and obey officers. Sure it sucks when the officer is an asshole, but you are just making it worse for yourself if you try to run.

That being said, everybody should know their rights. "I have been advised not to speak to law enforcement without the presence of my attorney. I do not submit to any searches. Am I free to go, officer?" Stay polite, don't touch them, don't get upset. Anything they do wrong, you can sue them for afterwards.

>> ^MaxWilder:

Every single story described somebody fleeing or resisting. I have no sympathy for them.


The officer in this case realised that the kids had 'mental disabilities', still no sympathy? I agree that if you're dealing with an officer, being respectful is the most sensible way of not turning the situation into a clustercuss, but I hope officers can use their discretion, especially when dealing with vulnerable individuals. And most of them do actually. I've had lots of dealings with the police over the years, and they've all been pretty cool.

legally insane meaning what the law considers insane, not what the dsm-iv will diagnose as a mental disability. >> ^peggedbea:

legally insane and a manic episode are not the same thing.
>> ^ForgedReality:
Furthermore, the fact that he drops his weapon right away proves that his cognitive abilities are just fine. He's thinking about worse consequences should he use an actual weapon. He at least reasoned that part out. He knows what he's doing. It's not blind madness. He's just a dick.

The first time I noticed Dicaprio, was in 'What's Eating Gilbert Grape', as a mentally disabled child. Well played and a great movie.

I guess I'm a genius then. At last, confirmation!
>> ^imstellar28:
I read something about IQs that I hadn't really thought of before. If you look at a distribution of IQs:
http://i45.tinypic.com/dyumad.gif
You see that:
68 out of 100 people have an IQ between 85 and 115
2 out of 100 people have an IQ above 130
2 out of 100 people have an IQ below 70
And if you note what an IQ score represents:
70- Mentally Disabled
80 Borderline
90 Low Average
100 Average
110 High Average
120 Gifted
130+ Genius / Very Superior

130 is "Very Superior." I think most define genius as being above 140

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In reply to this comment by imstellar28:
I read something about IQs that I hadn't really thought of before. If you look at a distribution of IQs:

http://i45.tinypic.com/dyumad.gif

You see that:
68 out of 100 people have an IQ between 85 and 115
2 out of 100 people have an IQ above 130
2 out of 100 people have an IQ below 70

And if you note what an IQ score represents:
70- Mentally Disabled
80 Borderline
90 Low Average
100 Average
110 High Average
120 Gifted
130+ Genius / Very Superior

You find that the average person, at an IQ of around 100, has something in common with roughly 68-95% of their peers. Someone in this group can, at least on some level, identify with the vast majority of people around them. To them, the world is more or less homogeneous, consisting for the most part, of people just like themselves. From their perspective, it is only a few people that stick out: the mentally disabled and the geniuses. People you hear about but rarely meet.

However, if you look at the distribution of IQs you find that the difference between average and mentally disabled is only about 25 points - 75 to 100. Incidentally, the difference between average and genius, or very superior, is also 25 points - 100 to 125.

Thus, the life of someone with an IQ of 130 or greater is much different. They can only identify, at least on some level, with less than 2-14% of their peers. To them, the world is also homogeneous, but they are the ones on the outside looking in. An individual with an IQ greater than 130 perceives life very much like an average person would if they were in a room with 100 people, and almost all of them...85%...were either borderline or mentally disabled.


is this correct?
130+ is genius?
well would ya look at that...hmmmm..interesting.

70- Mentally Disabled
80 Borderline
90 Low Average
100 Average
110 High Average
120 Gifted
130+ Genius / Very Superior

Revised

70-Christian/Muslim
80-Assholes that cut you off on the freeway
90-Your boss at work
100-The hot girl that you know is way dumber, but you feign interest in because she's so hot
110-The kind of cute girl that reads books and likes culture and shit but is a few pounds over weight so you hang out with the "100" IQ girl
120-Your friends
130+-You, Einstein, Schrodinger, Heisenberg, etc.

In reply to this comment by imstellar28:
I read something about IQs that I hadn't really thought of before. If you look at a distribution of IQs:

http://i45.tinypic.com/dyumad.gif

You see that:
68 out of 100 people have an IQ between 85 and 115
2 out of 100 people have an IQ above 130
2 out of 100 people have an IQ below 70

And if you note what an IQ score represents:
70- Mentally Disabled
80 Borderline
90 Low Average
100 Average
110 High Average
120 Gifted
130+ Genius / Very Superior

You find that the average person, at an IQ of around 100, has something in common with roughly 68-95% of their peers. Someone in this group can, at least on some level, identify with the vast majority of people around them. To them, the world is more or less homogeneous, consisting for the most part, of people just like themselves. From their perspective, it is only a few people that stick out: the mentally disabled and the geniuses. People you hear about but rarely meet.

However, if you look at the distribution of IQs you find that the difference between average and mentally disabled is only about 25 points - 75 to 100. Incidentally, the difference between average and genius, or very superior, is also 25 points - 100 to 125.

Thus, the life of someone with an IQ of 130 or greater is much different. They can only identify, at least on some level, with less than 2-14% of their peers. To them, the world is also homogeneous, but they are the ones on the outside looking in. An individual with an IQ greater than 130 perceives life very much like an average person would if they were in a room with 100 people, and almost all of them...85%...were either borderline or mentally disabled.


is this correct?
130+ is genius?
well would ya look at that...hmmmm..interesting.

>> ^imstellar28:
...
Thus, the life of someone with an IQ of 130 or greater is much different. They can only identify, at least on some level, with less than 2-14% of their peers. To them, the world is also homogeneous, but they are the ones on the outside looking in. An individual with an IQ greater than 130 perceives life very much like an average person would if they were in a room with 100 people, and almost all of them...85%...were either borderline or mentally disabled.


I don't really think it seems that way, at least not to the magnitude that your wording suggests. I'll assume that my 2nd IQ test was correct, and that I'm somewhere in the range of IQ 135-145. Just writing this sounds arrogant, but I have never felt like I am alone in a sea of stupid people or anything like that. I think what really happened with me is that I took the relative ease with which I can learn or remember academic-type information for granted.

In high school and college, I took courses which are typically seen as being "hard" - for example, I took Engineering Physics and Calculus 2 in my first semester at college. I never took notes in any class, and I basically never studied or read a coursebook outside of class, but I would generally get good grades pretty easily (my university GPA was 3.4). I think what I tend to fail to recognize is the gap between the effort that I put into getting those scores and what people with lower or average IQ put into it. Basically, I'm lazy - a failing which I take full personal responsibility for, but I think that government education programs like No Child Left Behind increase the incidence of that problem among high-IQ students.

I also had a good friend with an IQ that I know was significantly higher than mine; maybe 155+. On the things that really made me buckle down and work hard to understand, he would still be breezing through. I'm very glad that I had that experience, because it is good to learn that no matter how good you are or how easily you seem to be able to work things out, there is always somebody out there who can make you look like a confused idiot.

I read something about IQs that I hadn't really thought of before. If you look at a distribution of IQs:

http://i45.tinypic.com/dyumad.gif

You see that:
68 out of 100 people have an IQ between 85 and 115
2 out of 100 people have an IQ above 130
2 out of 100 people have an IQ below 70

And if you note what an IQ score represents:
70- Mentally Disabled
80 Borderline
90 Low Average
100 Average
110 High Average
120 Gifted
130+ Genius / Very Superior

You find that the average person, at an IQ of around 100, has something in common with roughly 68-95% of their peers. Someone in this group can, at least on some level, identify with the vast majority of people around them. To them, the world is more or less homogeneous, consisting for the most part, of people just like themselves. From their perspective, it is only a few people that stick out: the mentally disabled and the geniuses. People you hear about but rarely meet.

However, if you look at the distribution of IQs you find that the difference between average and mentally disabled is only about 25 points - 75 to 100. Incidentally, the difference between average and genius, or very superior, is also 25 points - 100 to 125.

Thus, the life of someone with an IQ of 130 or greater is much different. They can only identify, at least on some level, with less than 2-14% of their peers. To them, the world is also homogeneous, but they are the ones on the outside looking in. An individual with an IQ greater than 130 perceives life very much like an average person would if they were in a room with 100 people, and almost all of them...85%...were either borderline or mentally disabled.

i'm guessing greatgooglymoogly is either (a)intoxicated, (b)mentally disabled (sorry about that one, biology sucks), or most likely (c) Detective Baylor or his underage high-school dropout girlfriend. Only someone in one or more of those categories could take that seriously.

Oh! Sorry, two more category possibilities!: (d) troll (damn! I just fed it!), and (e) fascist.

Meh going after McDonalds is lame, they would have zero tolerance for this managers behaviour, you can't tell if everyone one of your employees is an angel until they're guilty, that would be just as bad as what this manager did to this women.

It's unfortunate but I don't see this as McDonalds fault, it's very clearly an isolated incident and there is something wrong with the world if in fact this does result in 5-6 digit payout, we need to lose this mentality if we are to approve things like this.

From my own personal experience, McDonalds is one of the best equal opportunity employers that I've seen, from disabled, mentally disabled, young, old, any shape, size and colour. Seen it all, I live in Australia though.

That's a pretty dirty trick giving hot chilis to a poor mentally disabled kid like that.
Somebody tell him the trick is to breath through your nose.

Wow, they certainly go around in circles a lot. My head was spinning by the end.

Dawkins approaches this interview with the idea to convince someone who is unconvincable about the fact of evolution, which is just not the way to do it - He presents the evidence to her and she simply denies that it even is. Instead, he gets caught in her loopy illogical fallacies.

For example, why didn't he counter her entrapping question of, "Does a completely mentally disabled person have a soul?" with, "Why would a loving god inflict such a condition upon a child?"? The presence of severe disability is not proof that god put a soul in there, it's proof of how inperfect the replication process is and how mutations occur!

These people don't want to use evidence of their own to disprove evolution, all they want to happen is for some seed of doubt to be planted in the minds of the uninformed.

>> ^dag:
Is this being held in a mentally disabled recreation hall? Honestly, these people seem mildly retarded.


mildly?