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Noam Chomsky on Pornography

dannym3141 says...

LEAVE THE FARM ANALOGY!

It's nonsense, porn actors/actresses have the choice between doing it, and not doing it. Any sense of the phrase being "forced" into porn acting is nonsense under any reasonable classification of the word "porn" (ie. that 'porn' doesn't fall more accurately under the term 'rape' or 'slavery'). They make the choice to enter into porn acting. If they need money to pay the bills so they feel they have to be in porn, then i can show them plenty of jobs where they don't have to take their clothes off, and i can show them homeless people that don't act in porn and also have nothing. That's why porn actors/actresses have a choice, and farm animals don't.

Most domesticated animals would be extinct now if not for being bred for food. I don't think the normal everyday cow in england has existed wild for god knows how long, every single one of them is bred on a farm for the objective of some form of harvesting - milk, meat, manure, breeding for further harvesting. Often some 3 of those at some stage in the life of the cow. If not for food purposes, these animals would be the way of the dinosaur, so it's hard to even present that as a form of exploitation as far as i'm concerned. Especially when you try to swing it by me as a type of exploitation similar to say sexual slavery, which has got to be just about the universal standard for REAL 'exploitation' in the truest form.

And finally, you're comparing the consciousness of a human to that of an animal.

Probably a bit late on all that, but i nearly shit a brick when i saw that "farm" comparison.

Musical Montage from Yugoslavian film Black Cat White Cat

Krupo says...

This movie won the Silver Lion for Best Direction at the Venice film festival.

Here's the rundown, also from wikipedia. The entire video makes sense in context of reading this.
"He has plans to acquire a whole train of smuggled fuel, which he finds at cut-price. To obtain a loan that would subsidize the heist, he visits Grga Pitić, a wheelchair-bound old gangster, who's an old friend of Zarije Destanov, Matko's father and Zare's grandfather. Matko then plots the details of the job with an ally of his named Dadan, a rich, fun-living, drug-snorting gangster type who has a harem, juggles grenades and cheats at cards. However, Dadan double-crosses him and glitches up the deal by giving Matko a drink that is drugged, and carrying out the job while Matko is unconscious, which means that Matko owes Dadan a great deal of cash. Matko cannot afford to pay, so Dadan makes a deal whereby he would forgive the debt, thereby wiping the slate clean, if Zare and Afrodita, Dadan's midget sister whom he desperately wants to marry off, get married. However, Zare is in love with Ida, a barmaid who works in an establishment run by her Roma grandmother Sujka, and Afrodita is waiting for the man of her dreams. Dadan coerces Afrodita into marrying by dunking her in a well, while Zare first learns of the scheme to marry him off from Ida, who has overheard Dadan and Matko plotting it in the restaurant where she works. Meanwhile, Zare retrieves Zarije from the hospital where he is being kept, with the aid of a gypsy band.

The two reluctantly endure the wedding ceremony held at Matko's house, which Dadan refuses to postpone after the sudden apparent death of Zarije. They were not supposed to have a wedding while in mourning, but Dadan decides to delay the death announcement, so Matko and Zare hide Zarije's body in the attic, packed in ice. Zare is dismayed, since he wants to leave the place, and had hoped that the required mourning period for his beloved grandfather would give him the opportunity to get away, and thus avoid being married off against his will. Ida and Sujka provide the catering for the wedding, and Ida is upset at seeing her beloved married off to someone else. By contrast, Dadan is really enjoying himself, whether dancing to gypsy band music, bouncing on the bed with his harem, and juggling grenades. However, the bride runs away mid-ceremony, pursued by Dadan and Matko. She stumbles across a six-foot plus giant named Grga Veliki, who is willing to protect her from her villainous brother, and the couple fall instantly in love. Grga Veliki's grandfather, Grga Pitić, wants him to get married, and is delighted that he has found his mate. The old gangster forces Dadan, who had once worked for him, to accept the match.

The groom meanwhile conspires with Sujka and Ida to bring Dadan down a peg, and rigs the outhouse so that the seat will come apart. While the preparations for the wedding ceremony of Afrodita and Grga Veliki are being conducted, Matko and Dadan pass the time by playing cards, with Dadan cheating. Sujka comes in during the game, and serves the unsuspecting Dadan a drink spiked with something that would give him diarrhea. Furthermore, Grga Pitić apparently dies, and Dadan and Matko hide his body in the attic, where Zarije's body is also hidden. However, the two corpses soon both come back to life; they were not dead after all. They are surprised to find themselves together, as they had not seen each other for 25 years and each had thought the other was dead. During the ceremony, Dadan starts to feel uncomfortable and rushes into the outhouse ... and falls into the manure. His harem deserts him, and as he tries to clean himself off on a goose, only Matko remains loyal, and he provides Dadan with a shower from the garden hose. Zare meanwhile grabs the wedding official at gunpoint and orders him to solemnize his marriage with his sweetheart, Ida, and the two sail off together on a riverboat with a fistful of cash stashed in his grandfather's accordion, and the blessing of their respective grandparents."

FOX Reporter's Attempt to Ambush Bill Moyers Backfires

quantumushroom says...

Liberals dominate the media....this has been announced by Rush Limbaugh. And Thomas Sowell. And Ann Coulter. And Rich Lowry. And Bill O'Reilly. And William Safire. And Robert Novak. And William F. Buckley, Jr. And George Will.

BLAH BLAH BLAH. If you read any of them instead of picking through the recyclables of colbert and maher, you'd know the difference. Most Americans still get their news from the teevee, and despite FOX most of the ratings are still with the "everyone else." A shame and a sham, how else could the Obamessiah get this far saying nothing?

The net and new media are newer than the manure from the 60s through early 90s. Give it more time, then you'll really have something to fume about.

Darwin Award 5: Wheel Barrel Trick

Bill Moyers interviews Keith Olbermann

Small Packages-Sex with Devon

bluecliff says...

Hell, what a...
take pride in the...
...dick.
Who cares about women, about men, and this guy, and penis size. and all the crap in between.
this populistic horse-manure is getting on my nerves, people selling confidence,
a way of fake being that they know will work
until the bitter end
when the goddamn darkness envelops their minds.
the road of self confidence begins and ends with self, and then you live...
and thats hard.

when all the words went away
all that was said was here to stay
(what if god is Michael Bay?)


theres nothing to earn, nothing
it's already earned choggie











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