>> ^joedirt:
"Not a single drop of gasoline"
WHAT A DUMB CUNT!
You know how much more petroleum is wasted by converting to AC, transmitting to your house, then charing your car, then storing in DC batteries.
What an ignorant fuck, compared to refining oil, shipping gasoline to gas station, then filling up a car. Even with a horrible burn ratio in a combustion engine (most of the energy goes into heat and friction), your petroleum goes a ton further.
(Now if Tom Hanks had a video about his solar power plant in his backyard, this would be a different story, but CA steals all its power from other states like a big welfare mom.. and that power is mostly coal and oil.


Here's the difference though...you have a petroleum based car and that is your only option...petroleum. You have an electric car and then your options are wide open...coal and oil? Sure...but your not limited to just that..solar, wind, nuclear, hydroelectric, hydrogen, manure, geothermal, etc... Some of these things such as wind or solar are things that you could conceivably generate yourself.

In case anyone's curious, here are the lyrics:

A cockroach in the concrete, courthouse tan and beady eyes.
A slouch with fallen arches, purging truths into great lies.
A little man with a big eraser, changing history
Procedures that he's programmed to, all he hears and sees.

Altering the facts and figures, events and every issue.
Make a person disappear, and no one will ever miss you.

Rewrites every story, every poem that ever was.
Eliminates incompetence, and those who break the laws.
Follow the instructions of the New Ways' Evil Book of Rules.
Replacing rights with wrongs, the files and records in the schools.

You say you've got the answers, well who asked you anyway?
Ever think maybe it was meant to be this way?
Don't try to fool us, we know the worst is yet to come.
I believe my kingdom will come.

Chorus
F is for fighting, R is for red,
Ancestors' blood in battles they've shed.
E, we elect them, E, we eject them,
In the land of the free, and the home of the brave.
D, for your dying, O, your overture,
M, they will cover your grave with manure.
This spells out freedom, it means nothing to me,
As long as there's a P.M.R.C.

F is for fighting, R is for red,
Ancestors' blood in battles they've shed.
E, we elect them, E, we eject them,
In the land of the free and the home of the brave.
D, for your dying, O, your overture,
M is for money and you know what that cures.
This spells out freedom, it means nothing to me,
As long as there's a P.M.R.C.

Put your hand right up my shirt,
Pull the strings that make me work,
Jaws will part, words fall out,
like a fish with hook in mouth.

Rewrites every story, every poem that ever was.
Eliminates incompetence, and those who break the laws.
Follow the instructions of the New Ways' Evil Book of Rules.
Replacing rights with wrongs, the files and records in the schools.

I'm not a fish
I'm a man with hook in mouth!

You might also wonder (as I did) WTF P.M.R.C stands for. It's the Parents Music Resource Center.

In short, this is a big rant about having to put a "Parental Advisory" sticker on albums that have songs that contain adult themes or explicit language.

Symphony of Destruction had far, far more meaning under Bush than Hook in Mouth. Contrarians who think Bush and Obama are peas in the pod can use that song to describe every President ever.

Peace Sells is another one that's easy to apply to Presidents you don't like.

Ahh, throwing the "there's so much to understand/interpret in god's work, non-believers will never understand it" card again.

Bovine manure. There's nothing to understand, there's only stuff to "interpret" whichever way suits you and calling it "enhanced understanding". The Bible is exactly equally as ridiculous as Ron Hubbard's nonsense; lord xenu's DC-7 spaceships are equally as ludicrous as a man surviving inside of a whale for several weeks. Only difference is the bible's more obscure, so that if a new bunch of people appear wanting to justify their new ideas/lifestyle, they can always "interpret" some parts/passages in one of the most ambiguous books ever written to their benefit.

Kelly Media Group (KMG, Inc.) was founded in 2003 by Jason Cardiff. Kelly Media Group is a direct marketing agency. Anyone who has ever received junk mail in their mailbox will know what direct marketing is.

Kelly Media’s website states,”Why would you chance the future of your business on an advertising company that has to outsource your mailing campaigns to a 3rd-party fulfillment house. It is imperative that you place your direct mailing endeavors into the hands of a proven direct mailer, like Kelly Media Group.”

Why would you chance your future of your business on a fraudulent bag of manure like Jason Cardiff is a better question.

One of the areas specifically mentioned on Kelly Media Group’s website is “Church Marketing”. And boy does Kelly Media know how to market for the church. You see, the founder of Kelly Media, Jason Cardiff, also happens to be the son-in-law of Peter Popoff.

Peter Popoff, who in 1987 was making $4.3 million per MONTH, is a self proclaimed televangelist and claims to be a faith healer. He was a widely popular minister in the 1980s.

Yes, Peter Popoff, disgraced faith healer, and his collaborator wife, Elizabeth, are on the air trolling for dollars. On cable infomercials, Popoff promotes the Peter Popoff World Outreach Ministry, pleading for viewers to order his book, Prosperity Thinking: God’s Dynamic Forces That Bring Riches to
YOU! and get his new free, tiny vial of “Miracle Spring Water.” Intercut is scenes from his revival show where he lays hands on the afflicted, allegedly curing all sorts of medical problems (wink! wink!) and, oddly, supposedly freeing a woman’s jailed son.

Also intercut are scenes of Elizabeth reading “testimonials” of the cures from viewers healed by the
water or by Popoff through the TV.

Popoff, was exposed by James Randi on The Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson in 1986. Randi and friends found out that Elizabeth was transmitting information to Peter, who wore a hidden earpiece
camouflaged as a hearing aid (very strange for a man who could supposedly cure all manners of illness).

Randi said, “I explained how Popoff had sent Reeford Sherrill (his ‘front man’), Volmer Thrane, and his wife, Elizabeth, into the audience in advance, equipped with transmitters to gather and broadcast the needed data backstage to the reverend.”

During the show, Elizabeth would prompt him again on the problems claimed by certain people in the audience. It then looked like he knew a person’s name and affliction as if given the information by
God! During one part of the revival section of the new show, Popoff gets worked up and touches the foreheads of afflicted persons, who usually fall backwards into the arms of one “volunteers”.

Youtube hosts numerous videos of this fraud, including James Randi on the Johnny Carson show in which Popoff’s wife Elizabeth, can actually be heard revealing audience member’s names and their illnesses to Peter via radio signals sent to the earpiece. Elizabeth can be heard to say, “Hello, Petey. I love you! I'm talking to you. Can you hear me? If you can't, you're in trouble, 'cause I'm talking as well as I can! I'm looking up names right now."

In one recorded session Elizabeth Popoff speaks: "Reeford's got a hot one!" (Laughter.) "Reeford's so excited! He came running in back here and scared us half to death! You ready for a hot one? Okay! Want a hot one? Hot one! Hot off the press! Ruby Lee Harris. Ruby Lee. She is standing in the far back where there's no chairs. (Long pause) "...Ruby Lee Harris. She's against the back wall. She's got lumps in her breast. You might want to whisper it - have her walk down! Have her run up there. Run! Oh! Look at her run! (Loud laughter) "she's got knots in her breast." (Laughter and giggles.) A home run! A home run!" (Then, later on, giggles are heard, and Pam speaks.) "At any rate, she should kick him in the face!" (giggles) (Elizabeth speaks.) "Pam says to make her - Pam thinks that you should have her kick him in the face (Giggles.)

Elizabeth Popoff and several aides would scout the audience looking for "hot" ones. They would ask them, "Is Jesus going to heal you? And what's your name, and where do you live? Have you had this condition long?" They would write all this information down on cards, which later on Elizabeth would recite during the service via her concealed transmitter. She carried the power source in a large handbag, and the transmitter and microphone were hidden under her blouse.

Peter Popoff claimed that the video footage shown on Johnny Carson was a fake and that the woman who was said to be his wife Elizabeth was really an actor hired by NBC.

When the Popoff ministry was asked whether Popoff used a secret receiver in his ear, Janice Gleason, a public relations consultant for the Popoff organization, said that the electronic receiver in Popoff's ear was used only to keep in touch with the television crew. (In the hours of taped transmissions, there was not one communication with the television crew.) Gleason said she believed that the woman's voice heard on the Tonight Show was faked. But Popoff later admitted that it was his wife who was communicating with him

Peter Popoff also declared bankruptcy when his viewers began leaving him in droves after the revelation of fraud.

So it’s now 2009 and how does all of this tie in with the Kelly Media Group?

Nick Popoff, the son of Peter “fraud” Popoff works as consultant for Kelly Media, and Peter’s son-in-law Jason Cardiff is the founder of Kelly Media Group. Furthermore, the PeterPopoffMinistries website was created by Kelly Media Group.

If you make a donation on Popoff’s website (to “fulfill our mission of proclaiming the gospel of Jesus to the world” of course), take a look at whose e-mail account (now closed) the funds are processed with:

This is the actual code from the website donation page:

<input type="hidden" name="x_version" value="3.1" />
<input name="x_merchant_email" type="hidden" id="x_merchant_email" value="jason.cardiff@earthlink.net" />
<input type="hidden" name="x_description" value="Donations - Peter Popoff Ministries" />

Yes, Jason Cardiff handles donations sent to Peter Popoff. This entire family is crooked and fraudulent.

Let’s take a look at how much money this family made in 2005. The information comes from Ministrywatch.com which tracks questional religious organizations.

People United for Christ, Inc./ Peter Popoff
Known Compensation per IRS Form 990:
Peter Popoff: 2005: $686,932
Elizabeth Popoff: 2005: $261,146
Nickolas Popoff: 2005: $189,293
Amy Cardiff (daughter): 2005: $183,330
Kelly Media Group, Inc./ son-in-law to Peter Popoff: $1,948,458
Other organizations: (1) Peter Popoff Ministries, LTD, (2) First Point (United
Kingdom), (3) Word for the World, (4) Peter Popoff Evang. Assoc-Canada.

Peter Popoff made $686,932 from donations received. His wife made $261,146.

Kelly Media Group made $1,948,458. That’s almost TWO MILLION dollars for web-hosting and direct mail services???

2006 incomes were slightly less for the Popoff family:
Peter Popoff Ministries $23,556,469
Peter Popoff . . . . . . . . . 628,732
Elizabeth Popoff $203,000
Nickolas Popoff $182,000
Amy Cardiff $176,000
Taking a closer look at the direct mail services of Kelly Media Group. People who sign up at Peter Popoff’s ministry website, are asked for their mailing address and email address. Once the information is filled out, people begin to receive up to two-dozen postal letters from Peter Popoff.
Each letter is personally addressed to the person (ex: "Robert, God has given me something that I must give you," the letter begins). Computer-generated type is made to look like handwriting and only the names are changed from one letter to the next.

A former Kelly Media Group employee states, “while working for Kelly Media, which is an advertising agency owned and operated by Peter Popoffs son-in-law Jason Cardiff, it was my job to enter prayer requests and donations into a database. These entries into the database would generate a letter to be sent back to the person who wrote in. It would print up a detailed letter, which appears to be handwritten by Peter Popoff himself telling people that he was praying for them, and their particular problems.

The letters begin, 'The other day I was praying for you, and decided to go to a coffee shop where I knew I could focus, and everytime I said your name I was embraced by the holy spirit.'

Do you really think Peter Popoff spends even 15 seconds reading through the hundreds of letters that he receives?

Popoff’s staff take the money out that Peter Popoff has asked the people for, writes the prayer requests on the envelope, and sends them to Kelly Media Group who type them into the database. The coffee shop line quoted above will be mass produced, word for word on each letter for about sixty thousand people at a time. All the while people think that they are sending him money to advance the work of god, and that in return he is praying for them. Peter Popoff is not only not praying for these people, he doesnt even know who they are.

Peter Popoff, Elizabath Popoff, Jason Cardiff are enjoying the good life for now, based on the dollars donated by people who don’t know any better. This family engage in fraud and questionable practices to conduct their business.

As a final testimony to the dishonest and questionable practices of Kelly Media Group and the Popoff’s, let’s take a look at the Direct Response Advertising Watch Dogs Of America. This group is touted as “a high-end elite group of executives that watch and study advertising executives around the globe for performance and client results.” Their website is here: www.directresponsewatchdogsofamerica.com

Imagine that, a group that takes time to watch and study advertising executives to see their performance and results. What would be the motivating factor here? How would this group earn an income? What else do they do?

The website for DRAWDA really doesn’t say much else about them. Portions of the website are incomplete as if the web developer stopped halfway through designing the site.

DRAWDA does mention though, Jason Cardiff. In fact DRAWDA actually names Jason Cardiff as an “up and coming direct response television advertising executive for 2008.”
Here is what they have to say about Mr. Cardiff:

Jason is President and founder of many companies Worldwide but best known for Kelly Media Group. Kelly Media Group is a California based direct response marketing think tank responsible for some of the most impressive successful marketing stories of the past 5 years. Jason Cardiff will tell you that he is only as good as his weakest link on his team, but his team consists of some of the brightest minds in the Unites States or perhaps the world. Offices are strategically located worldwide with the head office in Upland (California), Dallas (Texas), Vancouver (Canada), London (England), Sydney (Australia) and the newest office KMG Asia in Da Nang (Vietnam) www.kmgasia.com
That’s quite the honorable mention for someone who is engaged in defrauding religious worhsippers.

If you do a WHOIS of the website you will find that the website’s registrar has been hidden from public view.

DomainsByProxy.com
15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States

Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: DIRECTRESPONSEWATCHDOGSOFAMERICA.COM
Created on: 27-Aug-08
Expires on: 27-Aug-09
Last Updated on: 27-Aug-08

Administrative Contact:
Private, Registration DIRECTRESPONSEWATCHDOGSOFAMERICA.COM@domainsbyproxy.com
Domains by Proxy, Inc.
DomainsByProxy.com
15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States
(480) 624-2599 Fax -- (480) 624-2598

Technical Contact:
Private, Registration DIRECTRESPONSEWATCHDOGSOFAMERICA.COM@domainsbyproxy.com
Domains by Proxy, Inc.
DomainsByProxy.com
15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States
(480) 624-2599 Fax -- (480) 624-2598

However if we pull up the WHOIS record for DRAWDA **BEFORE** they hid their domain’s registration information, we find this:

:
Kelly Media Group

2022 W 11th St
Upland, California 91786
United States

Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: DIRECTRESPONSEWATCHDOGSOFAMERICA.COM
Created on: 27-Aug-08
Expires on: 27-Aug-09
Last Updated on: 27-Aug-08

Administrative Contact:
Cardiff, Jason jasonj@kellymediagroup.com
Kelly Media Group
2022 W 11th St
Upland, California 91786
United States
(877) 788-8463

Technical Contact:
Cardiff, Jason jasonj@kellymediagroup.com
Kelly Media Group
2022 W 11th St
Upland, California 91786
United States
(877) 788-8463

Domain servers in listed order:
NS25.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
NS26.DOMAINCONTROL.COM


Registry Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Registry Status: clientRenewProhibited
Registry Status: clientTransferProhibited
Registry Status: clientUpdateProhibited

Way to go Jason Cardiff, inventing a bogus group and registering it in your OWN COMPANY’S NAME just to present yourself with an even more bogus mention as an up and coming executive.

Finally, if you visit Youtube you will find videos of Cardiff giving a “tour” of the KMG warehouse and product fulfillment center. In the video, shot by an amateur cameraman who clumsily holds a camcorder, Cardiff touts his business while the cameraman pretends to be impressed with the otherwise boring warehouse. The entire video is clearly orchestrated and the cameraman is really another employee of KMG.

Avoid the Kelly Media Group at all costs or anything with the Popoff name.

I'd like to say I HATE, (if there were a stronger word then that I'd use it) movies with time travel. Planet of the Apes is, for some reason hailed as a cinematic classic. Apparently they forgot the sequels that literally make the series look and smell like a pile of manure. It ruined Quantum Leap, it ruined Star Trek, it ruined.... everything else that has time travel as a viable plot twist.

And that is why I hate nuts in brownies...

Wait, where was I? Oh yeah, you can always count on a crappy story if time travel is involved.

>> ^Rambaldi:
Actually, the piece says "fewer than 10 deaths have been reported", leading me to believe this is actually a pro-palestinian piece. It seems as though the piece is trying to present the terrorists as an unorganized, unequipped, bunch of hooligans, who fire animal manure rockets that don't even get off the ground.
I wouldn't be surprised if there are such groups. However, there are also well-equipped, well-organized terrorists, as evidenced by rockets still being fired so late into the current conflict. The other thing that piece doesn't refer to is that the goal and effect of terrorism is much more than deaths. In that, at least, the Palestinian terrorists are extremely successful.
Since I consider myself somewhat biased, I looked up some statistics:
According to Israeli security services, 790 rockets and mortar shells were fired into Israel since the current conflict began. Each of those rockets and shells sends population of entire cities into shelters.
MDA (the Israeli Red Cross) has treated 800 psychological trauma and injury victims since the beginning of the conflict.


To bad there is no music when that 105 millimeter round misfires. Acting like one side doesn't aim to kill the other sides civilians is something I find very amusing. Please continue. Each side is out to destroy the other, that is the crux of the situation. A petty situation at that.

Actually, the piece says "fewer than 10 deaths have been reported", leading me to believe this is actually a pro-palestinian piece. It seems as though the piece is trying to present the terrorists as an unorganized, unequipped, bunch of hooligans, who fire animal manure rockets that don't even get off the ground.

I wouldn't be surprised if there are such groups. However, there are also well-equipped, well-organized terrorists, as evidenced by rockets still being fired so late into the current conflict. The other thing that piece doesn't refer to is that the goal and effect of terrorism is much more than deaths. In that, at least, the Palestinian terrorists are extremely successful.

Since I consider myself somewhat biased, I looked up some statistics:

According to Israeli security services, 790 rockets and mortar shells were fired into Israel since the current conflict began. Each of those rockets and shells sends population of entire cities into shelters.

MDA (the Israeli Red Cross) has treated 800 psychological trauma and injury victims since the beginning of the conflict.

Reference to Jefferson's quote:

The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure."

David Horowitz:

Neo-conservatism is a term almost exclusively used by the enemies of America's liberation of Iraq. There is no 'neo-conservative' movement in the United States. When there was one, it was made up of former Democrats who embraced the welfare state but supported Ronald Reagan's Cold War policies against the Soviet bloc. Today 'neo-conservatism' identifies those who believe in an aggressive policy against radical Islam and the global terrorists.

what a load of manure. ok everybody, group hug and then we'll all sing Kumbayah.

For the cow manure, sillies!

I am unaware of, and cannot locate, any reference to Thomas Jefferson having stated anything specifically regarding changing political parties every twenty years. However, there is the following Jefferson quote that I suspect Hopper may be referring to:

"God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion.
The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is
wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts
they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions,
it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. ...
And what country can preserve its liberties, if it's rulers are not
warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of
resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as
to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost
in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from
time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
It is its natural manure."

--Thomas Jefferson to William S. Smith, 1787.

Joe Pesci should really stop letting people take him to uninhabited places. He always ends up whacked.

>> ^kronosposeidon:
I'm originally from Nebraska, so I'll give you some friendly advice, son:
Don't fuck with Big Corn. Unless you want to be chopped up by a combine then scattered just west of Nebraska City by a manure spreader, just let it go.
Don't let Big Corn do this to you.

I'm originally from Nebraska, so I'll give you some friendly advice, son:

Don't fuck with Big Corn. Unless you want to be chopped up by a combine then scattered just west of Nebraska City by a manure spreader, just let it go.

Don't let Big Corn do this to you.

I love the smell of horse manure in the morning... smells like justice.

^dannym3141:
Let me check..................nope

Let me explain why you missed the thrust of my argument.

In pornography women are sexually exploited, regardless of whether they are humiliated or not, just as on farms animals are ultimately exploited or slaughtered whether they are treated cruelly or not. I'm not comparing the consciousness of animals to that of humans, I'm not talking about whether or not they have a choice, you just missed the point.

>> ^dannym3141:

Most domesticated animals would be extinct now if not for being bred for food. I don't think the normal everyday cow in england has existed wild for god knows how long, every single one of them is bred on a farm for the objective of some form of harvesting - milk, meat, manure, breeding for further harvesting. Often some 3 of those at some stage in the life of the cow. If not for food purposes, these animals would be the way of the dinosaur, so it's hard to even present that as a form of exploitation as far as i'm concerned.

This is just a bizarre statement. The reason domesticated animals exist is because we have been exploiting them for thousands of years, starting with wild animals that have been manipulated and bred to into the more subservient 'domestic' forms. To nullify their exploitation based on our constant demand and need for their produce for our own survival is ridiculous and selfish.