Everything around you that you call life was made up by people that were no smarter than you

Individually, maybe so, but people's collected wisdom over centuries IS "smarter" than you. Respect what has come before. Even the self-made man had to buy parts from someone.

Other than that, good speech Steve, love my iPod, try to treat people better wherever you are than you did from time to time while here.

I'm no expert.. there's the cloud system that's in place now, where you can sign up to wireless syncing between devices; anything you do on your iphone will be reflecetd on your ipod for certain linked things like schedules and vice versa (i think).

Maybe another thing to factor in is you basically CANNOT beat siri right now. Not only is it outstripping all competition but its potential is of skynet proportions by all accounts, and extremely difficult to replicate.

Tablets are different to phones though, and i've never experienced an ipad or any other tablet. I suppose it'd mostly depend on what she does on it? If it's work, and she uses windows for work, might be better going with something that has more open support than an ipad, or if she wants to use it for reading, web and general utility then i'd say the ipad holds most of the cards.

I can say from the perspective of someone who really likes the iphone that when someone really likes the iOS style and feel, nothing less really will suffice. By that i mean if you buy her anything less than one of those tablets on star trek, there might still be a twang of disappointment that it's not an ipad. People can get fussy about apple, as you know

@CaptainObvious
Just like rich people won't eat beans and cornbread,
News managers (the persons who run a story, or stick a story in a drawer)
have a bias towards news they think is important to their target audience.

If this "news manager" is trying to get Bill Gates to watch the news, he's going to run a segment on the new Microsoft Zune, going to run
* Cancer survivor gets a new puppy
* Apple sauce day is tommorrow in sticklick county
* Can Ipods cause traffic accidents?

So, the protest doesn't fit on the menu.

another reason is that the definition of impartiality is difficult to understand. If 10K lefties protest, does that mean I give Michelle bachman equal time with the protest?

Yep, we truly are at the peak of evolution.

And this is what we do with it. Stacking cups whilst filming onself and listinging to an ipod.

>> ^TheGenk:

While I don't want to belittle Steve Jobs' major role in Apple's success, all those documentaries and orbituaries are imho way too Jobs focused, as if he did everything by himself.
IMHO without Jonathan Ive and his design team the iPod would be just another mp3player, the iPhone just another mobile phone, etc..
Ah look at me, rambling on about humanities desire to worship Führer-figures.


Don't forget Steve Woz who is cooler!

While I don't want to belittle Steve Jobs' major role in Apple's success, all those documentaries and orbituaries are imho way too Jobs focused, as if he did everything by himself.
IMHO without Jonathan Ive and his design team the iPod would be just another mp3player, the iPhone just another mobile phone, etc..

Ah look at me, rambling on about humanities desire to worship Führer-figures.

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My comment feels diffent now in light of recent events. >> ^csnel3:

>> ^dag:
@chilaxe.I, like probably most people (in their heart-of-hearts), find the fact that the super-wealthy die, to be very comforting - natural justice dealt. When youth really is for sell - all hell's going to break loose.

With Steve Jobs death at 56 years old,a billionaire, by a disease that he had known about for years (not some kind of freak accident), I feel pretty hopeless that I will be cured of whatever I eventually get.
I want to be loaded on to an Ipod instead of a Dirt Nap, but , it wont happen in this century.

>> ^dag:
@chilaxe.I, like probably most people (in their heart-of-hearts), find the fact that the super-wealthy die, to be very comforting - natural justice dealt. When youth really is for sell - all hell's going to break loose.


With Steve Jobs death at 56 years old,a billionaire, by a disease that he had known about for years (not some kind of freak accident), I feel pretty hopeless that I will be cured of whatever I eventually get.
I want to be loaded on to an Ipod instead of a Dirt Nap, but , it wont happen in this century.

I'm a bit surprised at the general level of debate about Jobs. I don't really care about whether he was nice to people or not. I don't measure him on that basis, and I couldn't hope to know the truth of it.

To me, that whole discussion smacks of tabloid driven fantasy. You know, the whole pretence that we might actually know what celebrities are like. Oh, Angelina Jolie's a bitch, Steve Jobs was an arsehole, Tom Cruise is craaaaaaazy!

For me, the debate seems to have been about canonising a 'genius' or demonising a capitalist pig. Neither of these comes close to capturing how I think he should be remembered.

I confess, I'm not an Apple fan. I'm not an early adapter, I'm not into gadgets and I tend to wait until something is proven before I buy in. I'm not blown away by Apple products, but I did buy an Ipod when the dust settled and they seemed like a useful product. I still have it, and it's been worth the purchase. I don't see anything worthy of a genius tag on an Apple product, but they are beautifully designed, intuitive products.

Similarly, I don't think of him as an evil capitalist any more than any other business owner, and no less. Like any other manufactured product, Apple uses cheap Asian labour, but that doesn't offend me greatly. They appear to control the supply chain, and they have differentiated their products, managed supply, and achieved margins that are higher than their competitors - this is good business, and I respect it.

I don't believe he's 'changed' anyone's life dramatically - certainly not my own. I think he was a very smart guy who delivered very good products to a generation of people with high disposable incomes and an interest in technology. Well played.

I will never know what he was like as a person, and I'm ok with that.

I see this video and I'm struck by how much has changed in just my brief lifetime. We're now a society where the death of a tech company's CEO is noted more highly than that of, say, Mother Theresa's was.

I remember when having any skill with computers put a wall between you and your peers. We're not there any more.

Then I look at the dates and I'm no longer sure what's more perplexing - how important people such as Jobs have become, or how fast everything's happened. Ipod - 2001. What the hell?

i want to see a dude with a guitar get booed off stage. "fuck you, man! get an ipod!"

Fisheye lenses seem to make things come out of nowhere. Second watch through shows he had over a second to react, which in any sort of racing is FOREVER.

If you're out on the road, going to work, thinking about this or that, bopping to your iPod, then ya, several seconds can go by before you react to something out of the ordinary. It's not like a deer or some naked dude is going to jump out in front of... oh wait. N/m.

Why does it look like an Ipod?

That's a good summary of the Keynesian response. I guess my answer would be that even supposing the 10% unemployed were neatly then employed in building these weapons this would just be temporary. Later they will eventually all be unemployed again having wasted time and money in training for "fictional" work. Even if that work had some beneficial side effects, making unnatural economic growth will still be a net cost to the economy versus spending time finding real jobs. These are what they really 'should' in some sense be doing. To do this would surely be better unless you claim the 10% will continue unemployed permanently.

A typical argument against my response is that the economy is like a pump and that this is pump priming. Demand from these people's fictional labour will create the new jobs. The Austrian reply to that is that the pump metaphor is simply not valid and the economies grow organically. If you force a branch to grow with artificial sunlight, when that fake light gets turned off the branch will wither and all the people involved in its support spend a lot of time looking for what they should have been doing. I think Hayek would claim this type of fake labour policy is what causes the 10% unemployment to begin with.

These arguments can be seen in the two Hayek/Keynes rap videos. There are two inconsistent models of the economy. How can we decide which one is right? This argument is very old so I guess it's not that easy... Maybe look at long run growth in more and less interventionist countries? I suspect growth will be faster in the less interventionist nation.


>> ^NetRunner:
>> ^pyloricvalve: Just seems like straight up broken windows fallacy. If we spent 18 months preparing for war with aliens we might all be employed but we'd end up with a bunch of weapons pointed at the sky. Otherwise we could have spent the time making ipods, cars or whatever good or service you might want. Doesn't what he's saying just sound wrong? It clearly would not be a good thing for the world to spend 18 months that way.. I think that's the real problem with the broken window "fallacy" -- it assumes that as your starting point you already have full employment and no idle infrastructure or capital. That's not true in our situation at all. Unemployment is around 10%, factories are being left idle, and companies are sitting on mountains of cash. The idea here is to get people back to work doing something, because even if they're producing things there isn't a high demand for (windows, alien-fighting spaceships), it's not like those things come at the cost of the other things they would've otherwise been producing, since they're not producing anything at all right now. Oh, and in the case of alien-fighting spaceships, there's a pretty high chance that the technology and industrial infrastructure that's developed to build them will be able to be re-purposed for consumer goods once the alien threat is shown to be fake. Ideally instead of faking an alien invasion, we'd just have the government go and invest directly in our infrastructure (transportation, education, power generation), but without the alien threat it doesn't seem like Congress is willing to engage in any more fiscal stimulus, no matter how economically sound it would be.