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Zero Punctuation: Top 5 of 2010

Xax says...

It wasn't much of a year for gaming. Games I enjoyed: Settlers 7, Fallout: New Vegas, and World of Warcraft: Cataclysm. I think that might be it. That sucks.

Most-anticipated game award goes to Deus Ex: Human Revolution.

Awesome new "Deus Ex: Human Revolution" cinematic trailer

Awesome new "Deus Ex: Human Revolution" cinematic trailer

Awesome new "Deus Ex: Human Revolution" cinematic trailer

Deus Ex:Human Revolution New Gamplay Footage

Asmo says...

>> ^CrushBug:

Um, wow. From what little I saw there, it looks like they got most of the parts that I loved from the first one.


Apparently the word on the street is that there will be no ATM's and less clutter (ya know, like the soylent chips and cans of soda etc), but the RPG system is intact (you can see him earning XP) but whether or not it'll have the depth of the first is anyone's guess.

Anyhoo, looks a whole lot better than invisible war.

Deus Ex: Human Revolution : Gameplay Trailer

Deus Ex: Human Revolution E3 2010 Trailer

mgittle says...

>> ^theali:

All the ideas and tone in the trailer were taken from Ghost in Shell, not impressed at all.


I'm a huge Ghost in the Shell fan, both the original movie and the series. (I also hate most anime.) But, seriously...does GitS have a monopoly on the concept of people becoming cyborgs? I mean, the themes in this trailer aren't even that similar to ghost in the shell. This trailer's all about corporations vs. the people, sweeping change in culture, etc. GitS was sort of beyond that stage for Japan...when people were more used to this stuff being around, and it was more about mind vs. biology/technology.

Anyway, people borrow heavily from other people's crap all the time. They had a story on NPR the other day about this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Der_Ring_des_Nibelungen

It was all about how Marvel comics borrowed heavily from it, people argue Tolkien borrowed from it (there's even a section about Toliken/Wagner in that wikipedia article.

TL;DR version: IP does not mean "nobody can ever make another creative work about this concept ever again".

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Deus Ex:Human Revolution E3 Trailer

Deus Ex:Human Revolution E3 Trailer

Deus Ex (2000) - Trailer

Deus Ex:Human Revolution E3 Trailer

AeroMechanical says...

I dunno about that. The whole cyberpunk theme started in the US some thirty years ago.

And of course, we could probably go back further and further from country to country looking for who invented what and who was influenced by whom.

>> ^kir_mokum:

ghost in the shell called, they want their concepts back.

srsly, american sci fi has been blatantly ripping of masamune shirow for almost 15 years.

Deus Ex: Human Revolution E3 2010 Trailer

mentality says...

>> ^RedSky:
Do you think it's still worth playing? I somehow managed to avoid ever playing System Shock 1/2. Don't mind if it's graphically aged but I heard that it has a few too many similarities to Bioshock? Still worth going back to?


Bioshock and System Shock 2 are both by Ken Levine, and Bioshock's design is a simplified, console friendly version of System Shock 2. A lot of the same elements are present (Audio logs, hacking, different ammo, augments, powers), but SS2 also has things like RPG character stats (str, agi, end), inventory management, weapon customization, etc.

The main difference between the two games are the settings. SS2 is more of a deep space survival horror, like Dead Space. The atmosphere was excellent for its time, and it's one of the scariest I've ever played. If you don't let the poor graphics (very low poly models, even for 1999) distract you from the immersion, or let things like degrading weapons and the difficutly frustrate you, then its definitely worth playing.

This site has a nice faq on technical issues, and also includes links to the Rebirth high poly mod and the SHTUP high res texture mod.

Deus Ex: Human Revolution E3 2010 Trailer

RedSky says...

Do you think it's still worth playing? I somehow managed to avoid ever playing System Shock 1/2. Don't mind if it's graphically aged but I heard that it has a few too many similarities to Bioshock? Still worth going back to?
>> ^mentality:

For me, Deus Ex is a good game, but overrated. I much preferred System Shock (and Bioshock)'s excellent atmosphere in their take of the FPS RPG. System Shock is the true genre definer, whereas Deus Ex added some shallow dialogue and superficial plot choices (and a last minute selection of one of 3 endings) to the mix.

Deus Ex: Human Revolution - E3 2010 Trailer



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