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Fake News Works

newtboy says...

Let's fact check, he says....
Bloomberg made a temperature claim, so let's look at the population records.
He made claims about Pheonix temperatures, so let's look at Buckeye, as if Phoenix temperature records don't exist.

So sad this drivel convinces gullible and ignorant science deniers.

“To argue with a man who has renounced the use and authority of reason, and whose philosophy consists in holding humanity in contempt, is like administering medicine to the dead, or endeavoring to convert an atheist by scripture.” Thomas Paine

Lol...Goya. nuff said.

Cenk Uygur debates Sam Harris

billpayer says...

@RedSky profiling is dumb. I thought that exactly as Harris mention the old granny in the wheelchair who shouldn't be searched. Guess what, if that was the case where do you think they will hide the next one ? It's so dumb. If the bad guys know you will not search children or old people, who do you think will be used for smuggling next ?.
Your other post, Radical Christians are just as happy to die and go to heaven. it's called the Military, and yes they forcibly proselytize and recruit from the poor and minorities and yes they murder people of other religions on a massive scale.

@gwiz665 No. Judaism is just as bad. Judaism also suffers from Racism. That could be argued is why it does not spread. Look up Jewish intermarriage. Their doctrine preaches the disregard and manipulation of the 'GOYA' or 'animals' because they are lesser human beings. That is why they do not inter-marry or recruit. That is why over 90% Israeli's support bombing defenseless Gazans including targeting children. That is why Israel is imprisoning or forcibly deporting Africans. That is why Israel treats Israeli Arabs like sub humans.

ALL RELIGIONS ARE EQUALLY AWFUL.

Great Trick by Piff the Dragon on Penn & Teller's Fool Us

Deano says...

>> ^dannym3141:

>> ^Deano:
>> ^dannym3141:
>> ^Deano:
I've tried to avoid watching it as anything on ITV1 is a pile of tosh. Here instead of seeing Penn and Teller perform they judge magic and variety acts?? - <headslap>.
Granted this guy was entertaining but the crux of the show is handled with them looking at a piece of paper to decide if they were fooled? More than lame.

So let me get this straight, you've avoided watching it intentionally because you think it's crap. You watch one clip, decide that the whole show is exactly like that one clip, and confirm your suspicions that the show is crap.
Dude.
Anyway, the show is good, and i normally hate crap like this.

Because just watching one clip for a show like this is probably enough to generalise. This is fucking ITV, not some BBC4 documentary about Goya for cripes sake.
You see ITV1 has a track record of commissioning and broadcasting low grade material. Yet their prime-time major Saturday night hits e.g X-Factor, BGT are obviously way more popular and draw decent audiences. Their current line-up is inferior and has generally been slated. They've even got a UK version of The Marriage Ref. I've not seen that either but I'm happy to believe it's utter shite as well.
Ross looks uncomfortable here, with rather strange facial furniture, and I don't blame him. This job is dangerously reminiscent of what Angus Deayton used to do post-HIGNFY.
I recall P&T back in the day when they had a show and it was great. This derivative talent show is not.

?!?! Does that change anything re: my criticism?
As long as you think ITV comes out with shit and avoid watching everything on ITV because you think everything is shit, you'll always think everything on ITV will be shit including this show which isn't bad.
What do i care, watch what you want! You think it's crap, you haven't seen it, fine, it's crap.
Btw, i think the reason ross did this was because penn and teller have a huge international following, he's not stupid. Except when it comes to facial hair.


Fucks sake Danny, stop getting so upset. It's just a tv show. Glad you agree about the hair.

Great Trick by Piff the Dragon on Penn & Teller's Fool Us

dannym3141 says...

>> ^Deano:

>> ^dannym3141:
>> ^Deano:
I've tried to avoid watching it as anything on ITV1 is a pile of tosh. Here instead of seeing Penn and Teller perform they judge magic and variety acts?? - <headslap>.
Granted this guy was entertaining but the crux of the show is handled with them looking at a piece of paper to decide if they were fooled? More than lame.

So let me get this straight, you've avoided watching it intentionally because you think it's crap. You watch one clip, decide that the whole show is exactly like that one clip, and confirm your suspicions that the show is crap.
Dude.
Anyway, the show is good, and i normally hate crap like this.

Because just watching one clip for a show like this is probably enough to generalise. This is fucking ITV, not some BBC4 documentary about Goya for cripes sake.
You see ITV1 has a track record of commissioning and broadcasting low grade material. Yet their prime-time major Saturday night hits e.g X-Factor, BGT are obviously way more popular and draw decent audiences. Their current line-up is inferior and has generally been slated. They've even got a UK version of The Marriage Ref. I've not seen that either but I'm happy to believe it's utter shite as well.
Ross looks uncomfortable here, with rather strange facial furniture, and I don't blame him. This job is dangerously reminiscent of what Angus Deayton used to do post-HIGNFY.
I recall P&T back in the day when they had a show and it was great. This derivative talent show is not.


?!?! Does that change anything re: my criticism?

As long as you think ITV comes out with shit and avoid watching everything on ITV because you think everything is shit, you'll always think everything on ITV will be shit including this show which isn't bad.

What do i care, watch what you want! You think it's crap, you haven't seen it, fine, it's crap.

Btw, i think the reason ross did this was because penn and teller have a huge international following, he's not stupid. Except when it comes to facial hair.

Great Trick by Piff the Dragon on Penn & Teller's Fool Us

Deano says...

>> ^dannym3141:

>> ^Deano:
I've tried to avoid watching it as anything on ITV1 is a pile of tosh. Here instead of seeing Penn and Teller perform they judge magic and variety acts?? - <headslap>.
Granted this guy was entertaining but the crux of the show is handled with them looking at a piece of paper to decide if they were fooled? More than lame.

So let me get this straight, you've avoided watching it intentionally because you think it's crap. You watch one clip, decide that the whole show is exactly like that one clip, and confirm your suspicions that the show is crap.
Dude.
Anyway, the show is good, and i normally hate crap like this.


Because just watching one clip for a show like this is probably enough to generalise. This is fucking ITV, not some BBC4 documentary about Goya for cripes sake.

You see ITV1 has a track record of commissioning and broadcasting low grade material. Yet their prime-time major Saturday night hits e.g X-Factor, BGT are obviously way more popular and draw decent audiences. Their current line-up is inferior and has generally been slated. They've even got a UK version of The Marriage Ref. I've not seen that either but I'm happy to believe it's utter shite as well.

Ross looks uncomfortable here, with rather strange facial furniture, and I don't blame him. This job is dangerously reminiscent of what Angus Deayton used to do post-HIGNFY.

I recall P&T back in the day when they had a show and it was great. This derivative talent show is not.

Calling all Art Buffs (Art Talk Post)

Lann says...

I didn't know if Hieronymus Bosch would be what your looking for but he was ahead of his time.

Some more famous dark artist would be:
Albrecht Durer
Francisco Goya

I'm interested in what this thread puts out since I'm bad at remembering artist names.

Enemy is a powerful word; a word used too often (Blog Entry by curiousity)

Farhad2000 says...

I agree that dehumanization is also a psychological defense, by dehumanizing you eliminate the enemy as being inherently human, its easier to kill then because you aren't killing human beings. Its a form of cognitive dissonance, that can be backed up by any number of reasons.

This can be seen in paintings, consider the Shootings of May 3rd by Goya, the killers have their backs to us, they are alien while those being shot at closer to us. We emphasize with those about to get killed through the emotions that play over each one. In other mediums like cinema we see it when an army is being assailed by a faceless nameless enemy, we are drawn to those whose plight we see, their attackers are distant, inhumane, this is done in alot of action films and especially in World War 2 movies. Our responses are being shaped in subtle ways.

Other forms of psychological lockdown also exist for example in Guantanamo Bay, troops there were trained to greet and acknowledge each other by the saying "Honor bound to defend freedom" . This is a psychological device to remind the troops of their mission and why there are there, its coercive because it eliminates internal criticism, the same could be seen in the armed forces post 9/11 where those events created the necessary ethical argument to committing evil acts in themselves. To against that flow was hard. Criticism was seen as lacking patriotism or worse aiding the enemy.

My statement that we must commit great evil to end evil is simply a realistic observation of man's involvement in war. Its the rationale that we create, this was the rational used in the Vietnam war, Gulf war, Serbia and other conflict. As if one nations atrocities are somehow better then anthers, but this is the view that most Americans are programmed to have. That Americans do no evil, that somehow their involvement is clean, just and required for the "survival of civilization as we know it against fundamentalist Islamic terrorism". Pretty words to simply justify a never ending war.

For me the issue is presented simply by the following quote - "Robert McNamara: I think the human race needs to think about killing. How much evil must we do in order to do good."

There is a speech by Chris Hedges talking about War Is A Force That Gives Us Meaning - http://www.videosift.com/video/War-is-a-Force-that-Gives-us-Meaning-by-Chris-Hedges-1H

I recommend reading Chris Hedges - "War Is A Force That Gives Us Meaning" and "Dispatches" by Micheal Herr.

Big Joe Turner - Shake, Rattle & Roll

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