I’ve always thought it was a horrific decision, but not at all because of the immediate effects or massive death and destruction they caused in Japan….they fucked around and found out and deserved everything they got (and I was unaware the Russian Manchurian offensive timing, but it’s even more reason to not drop a second bomb or even a first if we knew it was coming).

I think it was horrific because we had no idea what the long term effects of even minimal fallout might be, and in fall/winter the jet stream runs from Japan directly to the highly populated West coast (which we knew well thanks to balloon bombs), so some portion of the fallout was guaranteed to fall on millions of US citizens. We lucked out that it wasn’t deadly a year later, and didn’t cause horrible birth defects with near zero exposure…we had no concrete idea at the time though just guesses, and still don’t have a clear idea of how much it contributed to higher cancer rates in the US.

Keep in mind, we had no idea what discussions the Japanese were having amongst themselves , so no idea how effective our bombs nor the Manchurian offensive were at persuading them to surrender. Hindsight is 2020, but at the time we were flying blind.

The uncertain risk there of possibly killing millions of ourselves or gimping or sterilizing or even Cronenberging entire future generations for the comparatively minimal convenience of not using conventional bombs, to me, is no where near worth it. There were just too many unanswered questions about too many factors. I’m sure the soldiers fighting at the time would feel differently.

*promote the history lesson, learned some new stuff!

BTW, that’s the same dismissive, ignorant, just deny the issue stupidity you tried on the 10 year old rape victim that had to cross state lines to save her own life from the rapist’s spawn growing inside her tiny body.
That didn’t turn out well for your disgusting lying fascist side that’s legislating their (im)morals onto everyone.

Just like then, this is EXACTLY what Texas law is, except for the phone call, because Greg already pre-decided….no abortion is necessary for anyone ever…no exceptions. 9 year old girl raped by dad with a brainless Cronenberg growing inside them, killing them in the process…no abortion. Not if she was raped by satan in an involuntary blood orgy and has the antichrist inside her…she still must carry it to full term.

These are the same people who are trying to turn America into a born again Christian theocracy, want public funds for religious schools (only Christian schools though) who absolutely do not understand this country, freedom, or self determination, or the ban on government respecting an establishment of religion. (Hint, it means 1. there can be no official religion and 2. there can be no law that gives precedent or special treatment to any religion).
This is your team. I’m sure, if Ilhan Oman tried the exact same thing (but with Islam) you would be prepared to burn mosques and madrasas across the nation and deport all Muslims just from the suggestion.

Some takeaways from this.

Mr. Poopybutthole goes to the same high school Morty does, at least his universe's version. Said universe is Federation controlled.

While in high school, he has a cane, so this is all after he was shot, so how old was he when he was shot by Beth?

On one of the pictures, we see furniture that has been Cronenberged, which suggests there's a universe which is not only the furniture one, but that got Cronenberged.

Did they drop out and have to take a General Equivalency Test, or is that just what the report cards are called in this universe?

They aided, while still in their graduation suits, with a human-based world's overthrow of the Federation.

The toxic containment has already been mentioned, but his proposal also matches the one where he proposes to Morty (though I suspect he's his universe's Morty).

He's Jewish... or she is.

He can carry her, despite needing his cane, though we can see him struggling.

Dan Harmon once said Mr. Poopybutthole is an adult Meeseek, and that was canon, but here not only is he who he is in high school, we can see they are the same, hat and all, in utero. So they clearly changed their mind.

Finally, who's taking some of these pics? Some are where you'd expect somebody to take a pic, but others, like him falling in love in high school, at first sight, are a bit harder to explain (I know, I know, it's a show (or a show in a show) and don't overthink it)...

Doesn't Netflix have Dagon and Necronomicron: Book of the Dead? I looove John Carpenter's Apocalypse Trilogy and The Mist RULES! Frank Darabont has also made many a Stephen King flick (Shawshank especially).

Off the top of my head, I would say HP Lovecraft isn't simply about madness driving horrors, it's biological horror, rather than supernatural. So almost anything by David Cronenberg, a lot of Japanese and Korean film, such as Akira, Uzemaki, The Ring movies, (which is based upon a Japanese folklore, but in modern times became biological horror, the Ring is actually a hybrid biological, technological virus), etc.

Also, the Matthew McCant-spell-his-last-name's True Detective breeches the Lovecraftian realm on a subtle and then not so subtle way in the end, such as the concept of "black stars" in a constant daytime of white background. I would say it's pre-Lovecraftian mythos from authors in the 1800s writing nihilistic almost biological horror, more just heavy uncomfortable writing. I can't recall the primary author who inspired Lovecraft beyond Bram Stoker's The Lair of the White Worm.

Anyway. I love horror, thrillers, suspense, nihilism, pulp and gothic literature.

Writing: All of these shows are what we might call 'clever,' which is generally a big selling point for me. Unexpected, heavily layered, structurally complex writing for comedic effect - a lot of recursive, iteratively growing humor. They're all also quite big on dialogue, and are comparatively 'dark'.

Themes: All of them also feature self-destructive and dysfunctional characters, to different degrees. In addition to this:

Rick & Morty: Does brilliant deconstruction of science fiction concepts without a condescending outside perspective. An amazing example is (spoilers) the time that Rick makes Cronenbergs of the entire global population, or the time that Morty's indecisiveness creates split quantum timelines.

Potentially good example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5A5Mb__fiA

Always Sunny: Never shies away from exploring the darkest consequences of its incredibly self-absorbed, idiotic, low attention span, high energy, self-destructive cast.

Potentially good example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_49P1RtqU0

Arrested Development: ...I'm not good at writing these synopses; I just wanted to see if I could figure out why I love these shows so much. Anyway, Arrested Development is the most heavily layered of all of them, so in just a few episodes it builds up an incredible library of call-backs, double meanings, etc. It's also less abrasive than the other two, if you have something against offensive shows.

...I don't know if there any good example scenes. You should just watch it.

You have to take copious amounts of LSD to come up with something like that. You have to. While David Cronenberg and Lynch tell you their worst nightmares.

Cronenberg approves.

Looks like David Cronenberg and William S. Burroughs. Probably discussing Naked Lunch.

Looks like David Cronenberg and William S. Burroughs. Probably discussing Naked Lunch.

Is that David Cronenberg at 3:42?

Exactly. Whenever I watch a Bergman on Hitchcock film the slow still shots are some times the most fantastical shots. People like Cronenberg knew when to use special effects to really capture the horror in perception changing & human body changing.

Feels good to be able to tag a new Cronenberg film with *wtf. Like all is right with the world.

yeah. saw "Bad Taste" when it came out, as a teenager, and loved it, which is why i was a bit surprised when i heard he was going to do LotR. he was David Cronenberg with punchlines, y'know?

i also remember thinking, wow, Derek put on a few pounds, eh? i guess Dereks really don't run... but it suits him well. like Kevin Smith, or Tom Selleck with a mustache. just looks goofy without it.

nice little shoutout to Wellington there, too! @berticus just got a chubby.