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If Meat Eaters Acted Like Vegans

enoch says...

@ahimsa

and now we move to stage two of the predictable vegan argument:

distinctions.


oh fuck me with a razor bladed dildo this is some tiring and facile shit.

look man,you are seriously missing my main point:
pretentious twattery and a morally and philosophically inconsistent stance.

so you can keep quoting anybody and everybody because it is apparent you really do not understand what you are quoting,and it is not adding anything to our discussion...at all.

maybe..
possibly..
just something to consider...
you approach expressing the values and benefits of being a vegan sans the self-righteousness,the pretension and condescension?

that maybe because YOU became a vegan for moral and ethical reasons,others may have come to it from other means and for other reasons,and allow those who are NOT vegan to come to their own conclusions and make their own choices?

and maybe not be so judgey mcjudgerface if they choose differently than you?

look man,we all do something that gives us the "feel goods".

some recycle obsessively,even though there is little evidence that actually makes a difference.

others drive a hybrid and feel that is their contribution,even though it is actually worse.

some will only buy organic and/or shop locally.(thats me btw)
and even though this brings some coin to the local farmers,taken on a whole it is barely a blip against the monster that is wal mart.

i have friends who do beach clean up every year,even though it gets destroyed within a month.

so we all try to do something that fits our perceptions of the world and how we can make it a better place.

and yes..if we ALL got together we could make a massive change in the current dynamics,not only locally but globally.

so i get it mate..i really do.

i guess what i am suggesting at it's core is this:
stop acting like a newly converted jehovahs witness who just wants us all to hear about your new buddy jesus.

i also think i should share that my long time girlfriend is vegan.
not your judgey,self righteous,pretenscious type vegan..but a vegan.

and that girl can't cook worth a damn.
which means that cooking falls on ME.
do i still eat meat?
yep,but not that often and rarely..raaarely red meat.
and to my girls credit she never gives me shit,i may get the upturned nose but never actual verbal shit.

red curry anyone?

How do vending machines figure out if coins are fake or not?

SFOGuy says...

I know what you mean; at the hockey rink I used to skate at, if you "back spun" a rejected quarter as you put it in, somehow that suddenly made it acceptable.

And Canadian coins enjoyed a period of being, uh, "surrogates" for some US coinage successfully.

Inadvertently, of course---but in those days, a 25% discount if I remember correctly.

CrushBug said:

I love the video, but object mildly to some of the content.

"pin-point accuracy"? The vending machine isn't sniping someone from 800 yards out. And as for accuracy, why do most machines reject my coins a number of times, but if I slam the coin into the slot, it accepts it just fine?

How do vending machines figure out if coins are fake or not?

SFOGuy (Member Profile)

How do vending machines figure out if coins are fake or not?

CrushBug says...

I love the video, but object mildly to some of the content.

"pin-point accuracy"? The vending machine isn't sniping someone from 800 yards out. And as for accuracy, why do most machines reject my coins a number of times, but if I slam the coin into the slot, it accepts it just fine?

How do vending machines figure out if coins are fake or not?

eric3579 says...

I think i have this. It was a dupe of your own post. Sifty accidently (broken) double posted your video when you submitted it. This happens occasionally. You killed one and the other was still around and now is doing quite well It was never a dupe of someone's earlier video, but sometimes people will dupe in this situation to deal with the second video. I prefer just killing one of them. Hope that makes sense.

Your killed video is here and you can see its a slightly different url but posted at the same time. http://videosift.com/video/How-do-vending-machines-figure-out-if-coins-are-fake-or-not

SFOGuy said:

Wait, this is super awkward.
This a dupe and Eric3579 pointed out to me.
So, I tried to "isdupe" my own posting and he told me how to kill it.

So I did.
And here it is on the first page.

Not even sure how; so---people are enjoying this unworthy clone--should I leave it or kill it with extreme prejudice (and how did it even escape that fate with a clone???).

Perhaps Sifters will speak and I will follow their wishes.

How do vending machines figure out if coins are fake or not?

Bill Maher: New Rule – There's No Shame in Punting

MilkmanDan says...

Well, I'll agree with him to this extent:

Parties need to be concerned with choosing candidates that are at least a baseline level of acceptable to the whole range of their usual voters.

Republicans have a big problem with that, because the biggest single segment of their base (at least 40%, probably more) wants Trump, and will be (pretty legitimately) upset / mutinous if the party tries to foist someone else on them. The rest of the party might hate Trump, but they have utterly failed to present an alternative that appeals to a bigger segment of their base than Trump's 40+%.

On the other side of the coin, the Democrats have issues with this also. Not as severe, but Hillary has a really high proportion of haters / mistrust even among registered Democrats.

Assuming Trump and Hillary are the final candidates, I hope that however it turns out there is a huge amount of blowback to *both* parties in terms of drastically higher numbers of people voting for 3rd party "also rans", write ins, or people otherwise clearly voicing their displeasure. Both parties have to do better than this pathetic set of choices.

Something's Rotten In Iowa-Sanders Won Coin Toss

slickhead says...

This has been debunked. The lie is that there were only six coin tosses. There were more than six coin tosses in the Iowa primaries. Bernie won a believable amount.

Another lie I see repeated often is that Hillary already has the votes of the super delegates, The superdelegates have pledged support for HRC but will vote for Bernie if he brings in enough support. The thing to remember is that the establishment wants people to believe the narrative that Hillary has this in the bag.

Oh...and....Feel the Bern!!!

eric3579 said:

So even though Bernie won by a landslide in the New Hampshires popular vote, he actually lost the state in delegates.
http://dailycaller.com/2016/02/10/hillary-earns-more-new-hampshire-delegates-than-sanders-after-loss/

*promote

Something's Rotten In Iowa-Sanders Won Coin Toss

newtboy (Member Profile)

Something's Rotten In Iowa-Sanders Won Coin Toss

Jinx says...

Wow. I'm no huge fan of Hilary, but I gotta think she'd do better than tie against Trump. Surely most Bernie voters would come out for Hilary if the alternative was Trump? If she can only go 50/50 with Trump then honestly you don't a coin toss to know America is already fucked.

newtboy said:

Those thieving mother fuckers! Are the democrats trying to throw the election?
It's looking fairly certain that Trump will be the Republican candidate. Sanders does FAR better in polls against him than Hillary who polls as a statistical tie with Trump, yet the 'party' is still staunchly behind Clinton and against Sanders. Even when Sanders wins, they make him lose, either by 'coin toss' or by rule vagaries that make the actual vote not matter. It's become INSANE that they are still trying to force Clinton down our throats and ignoring Sanders' popularity.
It's like they would rather lose than have a candidate that they don't have full control over....and that leaves us with Trump as president.
WTF is going on in my country?!?

Something's Rotten In Iowa-Sanders Won Coin Toss

newtboy says...

Those thieving mother fuckers! Are the democrats trying to throw the election?
It's looking fairly certain that Trump will be the Republican candidate. Sanders does FAR better in polls against him than Hillary who polls as a statistical tie with Trump, yet the 'party' is still staunchly behind Clinton and against Sanders. Even when Sanders wins, they make him lose, either by 'coin toss' or by rule vagaries that make the actual vote not matter. It's become INSANE that they are still trying to force Clinton down our throats and ignoring Sanders' popularity.
It's like they would rather lose than have a candidate that they don't have full control over....and that leaves us with Trump as president.
WTF is going on in my country?!?

The Blackface Democrat

enoch says...

@bobknight33
you know bob,i owe you an apology.
i shouldnt have told you "fuck you" when my problem was with the video,and i wrongly conflated you with this video.

that being said,i still stand by my feelings of "fuck this video".

i struggle with people who have this binary view of politics.
just because i criticized the lies and deception of the republican party does not automatically translate me to promoting or defending democratic practices,because BOTH parties manipulate the body politic while at the very same fuck them over.

the two party duopoly are just different faces of the same coin.both have been purchased to serve the interests of:wall street,big business,bankers and the military.

i have never subscribed to either party.i judge on individual merit and a case by case basis.so when you call me a liberal i dont know what the fuck you are talking about.

do i hold some liberal views? yes.
do i hold some conservative? yep.

but so dont you bob,we ALL do.
of course that is not the dynamic that is shoved down our throat every goddamn day.that somehow our politics can be reduced down to this over-simplified,and overly basic dichotomy.

but nobody has such a simpleton,and almost childish politics.as humans we are pretty complex is our understandings,feelings and desires.it is those complexities that influences our politics and how we feel things should be as a society.

i am a libertarian socialist (anrcho-syndacalist).
which is why you may see me post videos that address the corruption in politics,in our economy,in our foreign policy.the hypocrisy of politicians espousing that "feel your pain" language,while they funnel public funds to their criminal friends on wall street...and point to the food stamp recipient,or immigrant and state..with zero sense of irony..THERE,that is your problem.

my politics is the reason why i may post video criticizing and ridiculing ultra-right wing politicians attempting to legislate "proper" and "moral" behavior,because they pretend they have some relationship with god,and god spoke to them.

but also why i will post videos criticizing and ridiculing the extreme left.who seek to legislate "harmful" or "offensive" speech,because they seek to control language.as if THEY are the true moral arbiters of human interaction.

so i do not necessarily disagree with you when you point to the democrats hypocrisy in regards to poor folk.that they use the language of empathy and compassion,and then enact legislation that is entirely bereft of compassion and empathy,but BOTH parties do this!

bill clinton was incredibly detrimental to the poor and working poor and made the job of digging out of poverty damn near impossible.

you may identify with republican ideology,and that is not a bad thing.republican base ideology may be a tad more pro-business,but it also recognizes that the governments job is to protect the people from fraud and over-reach from those businesses.original republican ideology was for limited government,and fiscal responsibility.which USED to translate to anti-war and dismissing the military when it was no longer needed.

i could go on.

i could also point out that democrats USED to be more hawkish and far more involved in addressing the concerns of the working man.

but look at the political landscape of today.
both of these parties are nothing even close to representing their original ideals.they are solely and totally beholden to big monied interests.

our republic has become a plutocracy,run by the plutocrats and oligarchs.

so when you delineate the argument by republican/democrat i simply do not see this play out in reality.

we might as well be arguing who is the better fottball team,because thats what american politics has become.bread and circuses and cheerleading for our "team".

it is the height of absurdity.american politics has become absurd.

as for you not seeing this for being racist.
i dont know what i can say to remove your blinders.
this video is textbook racist.
we have "black face"
we have over-generalizations.
we have ridicule and assumption based solely on skin color.

calling this video racist is a non-controversial assertion.

and you cant promote it out of discard.
the sift has spoken.you can disagree,but that wont change the fact that this video is in the discard bin.

anyways,sorry for telling you to fuck off.
i just found this video offensive,but i dont find YOU offensive.confusing at times,but not offensive.

The Blackface Democrat

enoch says...

this is offensive on so many levels.
let me guess bob,because a black man posted this,it must,therefore NOT be racist?

this is incredibly racist,because this man is basically saying that black folk are too stupid to make up their own minds.that they are chumps and sell-outs for simply always voting democrat.

because republicans have ALWAYS been a voice of reason and championed the underclass! right bob?

we could use the same logic and apply it to the mind-numbing meth-head hillbillies who get cock hard at the voice of trump.who are convinced that the republicans represent freedom,liberty and the constitution.

while those very same republicans consistently rob these people,of modest means mind you,to pay their buddies in wall street.who pass legislation to poison their water,dumb down their kids,create food deserts,incarcerate them (while giving their CEO buddies a pass and a slap on the wrist).continue to allow tax breaks and subsidies for their donors.passing laws allowing big corporations to send jobs to china and utilizing prison labor (slaves) and then BLAMING the people!

yeah bob,that coin turns both ways.

so the black man who blindly votes democrat can be criticized for his lack of foresight,but so can the aging white racist who consistently votes republican.

because neither the republican nor the democratic party give a flying fuck about either of you.

you both are sell-outs,chumps and uncle toms to a system that threw you both overboard 40 years ago.

fuck this video,and fuck you bob.



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